What kind of sights are best?

[americandude]

What sights are best for a GLOCK? Tritium sights are reflective and hard to conceal in the dark. Fixed sights are not as accurate as adjustable sights, yet adjastable sights are easily messed up when using a holster. Laser systems are expensive and hard to conceal in a holster. What then, is a good all-around sight system? Fixed?

:headscratch:

[putz]

point'n shoot

[breech]

Carry a flashlight with you at all times.

[americandude]

:notlistening:

[americandude]

Originally posted by breech
Carry a flashlight with you at all times.

To tell you the truth, I already do (a small one).

[Hydra-SHOKz]

How are tritium sights hard to conceal in the dark?

[americandude]

Originally posted by Hydra-SHOKz
How are tritium sights hard to conceal in the dark?

They are not only visible to the user. They are also visible to the attacker. Would you not have to cover them so as not to show your adversary where you are located? One reason why I like GLOCK is because of their non-glare finish. This makes them hard to see compared to some other shiny/flashy brand. Why would I have very-visible sights installed on my gun, if the gun has a non-glare finish. Put that non-glare finish to good use and have non-visible sights. Don't you think?
:dunno:

[Hydra-SHOKz]

Originally posted by americandude
They are not only visible to the user. They are also visible to the attacker. Would you not have to cover them so as not to show your adversary where you are located? One reason why I like GLOCK is because of their non-glare finish. This makes them hard to see compared to some other shiny/flashy brand. Why would I have very-visible sights installed on my gun, if the gun has a non-glare finish. Put that non-glare finish to good use and have non-visible sights. Don't you think?
:dunno:

I think you have a lot to learn.I must be stupid for carry a matte hard-chromed G32 with Meprolight night sights.

[RandySmith]

If your adversary can see your night sights in the dark, it is because you have your gun out of concealment and he is BEHIND you.

You have a much larger problem to solve.

As far as what is best, define 'best'. Maybe start by deciding what this gun will be used for.

Randy

[americandude]

You say:
"If your adversary can see your night sights in the dark, it is because you have your gun out of concealment and he is BEHIND you."
If your gun is in a miami classic, before it is even out of concealment, it is visible. The gun is held vertically to your side. It points backwards. That means that the gun sights are facing your adversary (if you are facing him).
Just a note.

[americandude]

Originally posted by RandySmith
If your adversary can see your night sights in the dark, it is because you have your gun out of concealment and he is BEHIND you.

You have a much larger problem to solve.

As far as what is best, define 'best'. Maybe start by deciding what this gun will be used for.

Randy

I want it to be a good all-around gun sight.

[RandySmith]

Regardless of which direction it is pointing, if the adversary can see it, it is NOT concealed.

It the gun is vertical in the holster, it is pointing down, not backwards.

Randy

[RandySmith]

I want it to be a good all-around gun sight.


Define what 'good' means to you in this context. In other words, what characteristics are you looking for?

Randy

[americandude]

Originally posted by RandySmith
Regardless of which direction it is pointing, if the adversary can see it, it is NOT concealed.

It the gun is vertical, it is pointing down, not backwards.

Randy

Rot!!!
I meant horizontal! For peat sakes I usually remember that one. Horizontal as in horizon. I must be getting tired. It's about 1:00pm over here. Can't think at this time.
Got to get to bed.
Thank's for the info.

[Hydra-SHOKz]

americandude,I would say the majority of the folks here would consider fixed night sights to be the "best" for concealed carry/self-defense.Which brand of sights is personal preference.In a pitch black room, I can see my Meps glowing only if they are facing me.Like Randy said,if your adversary can see them he's more then likely behind you and can see more then your night sights.I highly doubt night sights are going to give away your position like a laser and flashlight may do.If this is a big concern for you stick with a flat black sight.I'll take my chances with the tritium.

[happyguy]

For what it's worth...

I read about some folks training at night in a heavy fog and their night sights lit up a great big halo that gave their position away from a considerable distance.

I have never observed this myself but I regard the individual who posted this as credible. I also believe this unit no longer uses night sights.

Regards,
Happyguy:)

[americandude]

Originally posted by happyguy
For what it's worth...

I read about some folks training at night in a heavy fog and their night sights lit up a great big halo that gave their position away from a considerable distance.

I have never observed this myself but I regard the individual who posted this as credible. I also believe this unit no longer uses night sights.

Regards,
Happyguy:)

Thank's. I may stick with the fixed that I now have for my G23. I'm trying to convince myself that I don't need them. They are expensive to buy later :-(

[BustedFlush]

(edit) What I should have said - If possible, check out various night sight options in person, on guns at range, gun shop, gun shows etc. Shoot with the stock sights until you decide what kind of night sights you prefer.


:cool:

[J.P.]

Just get some Trijicons and be done with it...

[americandude]

Originally posted by BustedFlush
Americandude/Student7777777,

You didn't mention if the sights you seek are for shooting your bears and cougars with your glock 23 !



His thread on shooting big game with G23 (http://glocktalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=525601)

:laughabove:

Cougars are much smaller than bears. I know (and you know for that matter) that cougars can be killed by a G23. Bears are a different matter. That's why I asked.
Also, just for the record, it seems to me that it's a pretty hot topic. Check out some of the stories that I've goten from people on that post!
And as I said once. Maybe I'm stupid. That's why I'm here. TO LEARN!!!

I think I'll go with the fixed sights. They seem good for what I need:
Target Practice
Defense against animals that you find when hiking
and for defense against human attackers

Thank's for the info

[Zertek]

Oh my gosh....

[TexasGlock23]

TFO'S, and might I suggest the optic section here. It will save you from getting crappy comments from the trolls here! And there are so many threads about it already. PM me with questions or pics of TFO's

Jared

[americandude]

I tried my G23 today. It's AWSOME!!!
I like the fixed sights that it has on it.
Although, I am still considering the Tritium Sights.

[Glockasaurus Rex]

Hey Dude,
I see what you mean. Some people are just mean spirited. Maybe they're just not getting enough of the good stuff, have to come in here and pounce on the newbies. Don't worry about them, there are plenty of good people in here willing to help with any Glock issues you may have. Personally, I like the Meps that come on my Glocks. For some reason I get a better sight picture with them than with the Trijicons. I've had OEM stock sights, Heinie Slant 8, Trijicons and Meps. And I like the Meprolight that come on the Glock the best. Just FYI, my carry ammo is Corbon 135gr. Fantastic stuff, hard hitting, fast and no flash. Take care.
-Dre

[TexasGlock23]

Originally posted by Glockasaurus Rex
Hey Dude,
I see what you mean. Some people are just mean spirited. Maybe they're just not getting enough of the good stuff, have to come in here and pounce on the newbies. Don't worry about them, there are plenty of good people in here willing to help with any Glock issues you may have. Personally, I like the Meps that come on my Glocks. For some reason I get a better sight picture with them than with the Trijicons. I've had OEM stock sights, Heinie Slant 8, Trijicons and Meps. And I like the Meprolight that come on the Glock the best. Just FYI, my carry ammo is Corbon 135gr. Fantastic stuff, hard hitting, fast and no flash. Take care.
-Dre

I agree, and there are plenty of trolls on here looking to run thier mouths!:upeyes: But fortunately some of us like to help and give our experiences. Like my post, I have only owned TFO's and love them. But they may not be what the poster is looking for. You can also check over at www.glockers.com It is VERY friendly over there.

Jared

[americandude]

Thank's.

I get where you're coming from.

While I'm here:

About the loaded chamber indicator on your G23's, is it small? Mine is not painted red or anything. It just sticks slightly out the side. At first I thought I had a problem, then I realized that the indicator is simply, small.
Thank's again.

[Glockasaurus Rex]

Yeah, it's more of a tactile indicator as opposed to a visual one. Good call on GLOCK's part. Last thing you want to do is to be looking down to see if the little red indicator is sticking up when you should be looking for the bad guy. Practice in the dark if you have to. Get one of those snap caps and practice what it feels like when a round (in this case a snap cap) is chambered and when it isn't. DON'T USE A LIVE ROUND!!!
-Dre.

[americandude]

Originally posted by Glockasaurus Rex
Yeah, it's more of a tactile indicator as opposed to a visual one. Good call on GLOCK's part. Last thing you want to do is to be looking down to see if the little red indicator is sticking up when you should be looking for the bad guy. Practice in the dark if you have to. Get one of those snap caps and practice what it feels like when a round (in this case a snap cap) is chambered and when it isn't. DON'T USE A LIVE ROUND!!!
-Dre.

Yeah. What is a "snap cap" anyway? Is it something that is usable only one time? Or is it usable many times?
A guy told me once that it is better to only dry fire a glock when using a snap cap. Is this so? Or can I dry fire my GLOCK all I want?
Sorry if this is a little off subject.

[americandude]

And, by the way.

Cool screen name!

I have always been intrigued by T-Rex's.

[Glockasaurus Rex]

Yeah. What is a "snap cap" anyway? Is it something that is usable only one time? Or is it usable many times?Sorry if this is a little off subject


Snap caps are hard plastic "cartridges" , some with a spring in th primer section, that are totally inert (have no powder, primer, or projectile") shaped like an actual cartridge( .40 cal, etc) The idea is that you don't subject your gun to dry firing onto an empty chamber. People have been arguing for years about whether this damages a gun or not. You can use them over and over. What isn't in question is that practicing "dry-firing" does improve your trigger contol and helps you perfect your sight picture. By being able to call your shots, that is, be able to tell where the gun sights were pointing when the sear broke (ie gun fired), you will be able to better control the gun when you're are firing it for real. Also, you really get to know your gun. You can see if over travel is your problem, or maybe a little flinch. Regardless, it's great practice and it don't cost a thing. As far as dry firing goes, I don't do it with .22 rimfires becase there's a possibility of metal to metal contact. I do it with my S&W revolvers and they sure do get smooth. I feel the Glock was designed to be dry fired as it is the first step in field stripping it. Just MHO. Take care.
-Dre.

here are some for sale on Ebay, just to give you an idea as to what they look like.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Pachmayr-Snap-Caps-40-S-W-5-Pack-NEW-Model-03228_W0QQitemZ7228435260QQcategoryZ36258QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[americandude]

Originally posted by Glockasaurus Rex
Snap caps are hard plastic "cartridges" , some with a spring in th primer section, that are totally inert (have no powder, primer, or projectile") shaped like an actual cartridge( .40 cal, etc) The idea is that you don't subject your gun to dry firing onto an empty chamber. People have been arguing for years about whether this damages a gun or not. You can use them over and over. What isn't in question is that practicing "dry-firing" does improve your trigger contol and helps you perfect your sight picture. By being able to call your shots, that is, be able to tell where the gun sights were pointing when the sear broke (ie gun fired), you will be able to better control the gun when you're are firing it for real. Also, you really get to know your gun. You can see if over travel is your problem, or maybe a little flinch. Regardless, it's great practice and it don't cost a thing. As far as dry firing goes, I don't do it with .22 rimfires becase there's a possibility of metal to metal contact. I do it with my S&W revolvers and they sure do get smooth. I feel the Glock was designed to be dry fired as it is the first step in field stripping it. Just MHO. Take care.
-Dre.

here are some for sale on Ebay, just to give you an idea as to what they look like.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Pachmayr-Snap-Caps-40-S-W-5-Pack-NEW-Model-03228_W0QQitemZ7228435260QQcategoryZ36258QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I'm getin' some!
Thank's.

[Hydra-SHOKz]

Snap caps are a good idea in general but they are a PITA to use in Glocks.

[americandude]

Yeah, perhaps you are right.

[phirehawk]

I have snap caps for my G19 and I use 'em when I'm shooting with others. I'll hide one down in the mag four rounds to see 'em flinch, point it out and help them correct the problem. Single most effective tool I've ever used for me or someone else for accuracy and shot "anticipation."