Where did all of the cheap 9X18 ammo go?

[CCV]

And, is it ever coming back?

[RMTactical]

It seems to have disappeared along with the 7.62x39... :frown:

I still see Wolf around in BOTH of those caliber, but Wolf just isn't my favorite flavor...

[North Bender]

There are still some vendors, not many, with 9x18 - what are you looking for?

We're all waiting for the importation of Russian ammo to begin again. And waiting to see what the new prices will be.

[zippo]

YES it very hard to fine 9x18 Mak. When they will come back for cheap price like befor ??? and why is all they have is WOLF ammo only . I miss Brown Bear or othe Russian make.
zippo:upeyes:

[RMTactical]

Originally posted by zippo
YES it very hard to fine 9x18 Mak. When they will come back for cheap price like befor ??? and why is all they have is WOLF ammo only . I miss Brown Bear or othe Russian make.
zippo:upeyes:

Yes, bear ammo and Barnaul are very good alternatives to Wolf, and I wish we could find it in the two calibers I mentioned. Good thing I bought a case of Barnaul before the ammo issue got out of hand. I had sold some of it to family members, but I think I will hold onto the remainder, for now... ;)

[Mr. Tettnanger]

The lack of ammo is truly upsetting. I had been looking for a Bulgy mak for a bout a year and the only thing harder to find is the ammo!!!!! I have a freind in the wholesale ammo, firearm, etc. business and he has been tellling me of this situation for about 6 months now. This is one reason i gave up my hunt for a bulgy.....if I find one....no ammo? Good luck on all of your searches and if you do find some..let us all know.


Mr. T

[Bushbacker]

I e-mailed Barnaul to ask about 9x18 ammo. I'm not expecting a reply but will post if they happen to respond.

http://www.barnaulammunition.com/

[RMTactical]

Originally posted by Bushbacker
I e-mailed Barnaul to ask about 9x18 ammo. I'm not expecting a reply but will post if they happen to respond.

http://www.barnaulammunition.com/

I spoke with a rep. from bear ammo and he told me that we would see it again, although he siad that he was not sure exactly when...

[JackC53]

I'm a Mak noobie but in the past two months I purchased a Baikal .380, a Ruskie 9X18 and (2) P-64s (not true Maks but). If the 9X18 is such a problem, the .380 version sure comes in handy if you're having "withdrawals" LOL!

I LOVE my .380!!! Just shot my Ruskie and the P64s today. The Ruskie was about the same as the Baikal and I was VERY pleasantly surprised by the P64s. Yes, it did sting in the web of my hand but they're extremely controlable and accurate for their size. I shot some Barnaul HPs too and not a problem.

I work at an FFL that lets its employees play with used guns and I took a P63 along for the ride. What a POS!! JAM CITY! FTE, etc. Maybe that's why a customer traded it in. I really liked the looks/weight of the gun and was disappointed it didn't perform; it was $125 out the door too.:frown:

I am one VERY happy man!!

jAK-47

[valkyrie182]

All I can find locally is Wolf for 9 bucks a box and some S and B for a ridiculous amount. I too miss the 6 a box silver bear.

[M2 Carbine]

It's a good time for you all to get into reloading 9x18.

You can get into it very cheap.

Buy a cheap "C" press. Used about $20 at gun shows.
Buy a set of Lee 9x18 dies. The powder dipper and shell holder comes with Lee dies. About $23

Buy a Lee case trimmer and pilot for 9mm. I don't think Lee has a pilot for 9x18.
They make a case holder that can be used in a hand drill. Very fast.
Carefully grind off 1mm from the pilot. I guess about $10.

Cheap, plentiful, 9mm brass can be trimmed to 18mm and loaded as 9x18.
I'm still loading a couple thousand cases I trimmed years ago when there wasn't any factory 9x18 reloadable brass.

Buy a chamfering tool to dress the trimmed case edge. About $6.

Buy Meister cast lead bullets from Midway, or other places, $15.49/500, or load Hornady JHP, etc bullets at about $11/100 (too expensive for plinking but a lot cheaper than store bought).

For about $60/1,000 rounds, load lead bullet rounds that will shoot better than anything else you have shot in your mak.:supergrin:

8x11 inch target. 48 yards. Mak lead bullet handloads. Bulgarian Mak.
Figure you shooters with younger than 68 year old eyes should half the group size, at least.:)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/Bell406_206B/48_yds_Bul_Arsenal_Mak.jpg

[Ron3]

I've seen 95gr Wolf and 100gr Wolf online for $5/50.

Georgia Arms sells 9X18 Gold Dots for about $14/50.

Hornady sells a 95gr XTP load, but I'm not sure who has it in stock.

Sellier and & Bellot is available for about $8/50.

I'm happy with Wolf though.

Ron3

[Revenuer]

Cheap surplus ammo of every caliber is allegedly a thing of the past. Official reason for increased costs is skyrocketing transportation costs. In reality, I suspect both the manufacturers and importers see an opportunity to increase their profit margins. Nothing wrong with profit, but if they had any competition, I suspect any such increase might be modest. Doubt any new competitors will show up as the overseas ammo is still much cheaper than domestic made fodder.

[Banker Billy]

A little OT, but . . . .

I was at a local gun auction last week and on one table was a box of 9Mak ammo. It was steel cased ammo made by Tula, marketed by B-West. In little 16 round boxes. A total of 800 rounds. I was the sole bidder -- appears no one there know what it was for !

Auctioneer said "It's some kind of 9mm ammo, that's all I know".

Got it for the opening bid. To ashamed to tell you what that was ! !









Let's just say it was about 3 cents a round . . . . . :)

[Bushbacker]

Originally posted by Banker Billy
Got it for the opening bid. To ashamed to tell you what that was ! !

Let's just say it was about 3 cents a round . . . . . :)

Just pennies per serving...

[North Bender]

Banker Billy, you realize that the B-West in 16-round boxes is corrosive? Good ammo if you don't mind the cleanup.

I understand that the companies who are importing 9x18 are changing. Some old contracts lost, others being signed. I suspect, but it's just a hunch, that the change in importers has played as big a role in the dry spell as anything.

[50 Cent]

The only good thing about the Wolf ammo is that it will tide me over til I can get the next case of Silver Bear (maybe 2 cases :supergrin:).

But its getting to the point where its almost cheaper just to go back to carrying my Glock 19 and plinking with FMJ WW stuff ($ 6-7/50) and carrying the WW 115 gr JHP's ($ 12/box). Shipping and handling brings 9x18 ammo close to out the door Wal-Mart prices for 9x19.

[Banker Billy]

Hello N-B,

Yes -- I know it's corrosive. Have shot some in the past and it always goes BANG !

For about 25 cents per mag I can spend a little extra time cleaning after I get home from the range . . .

[Teakwood]

I just got J&G Sales' flyer.
92gr Russian for about $100/1000
http://www.jgsales.com/

[CCV]

Originally posted by Teakwood
I just got J&G Sales' flyer.
92gr Russian for about $100/1000
http://www.jgsales.com/

On J&G's website it's all backordered.

[Teakwood]

Try calling them:
Phone:928-445-9650

[North Bender]

Silver Bear 115-gr JHP and Brown Bear FMJ:

http://www.floridaammotraders.com/ammo.html#9x18

For a wide variety of possibilities, including the older varieties, (but call first and ask what they actually have):

http://www.kyimports.com/ammo.htm

For Sellier $ Bellot 9x18, steel cased:

http://www.samcoglobal.com/

I love Georgia Arms:

http://www.qual-cart.com/

[Bushbacker]

I asked Dan's Ammo in PA about Barnaul Ammunition. Dan's is in some way affilated with and/or owns or is owned by PW Arms of Redmond, WA. On the Barnaul website, Dan's is the sales e-mail contact and the phone numbers for PW Arms actually ring at Dan's Ammo.

http://www.barnaulammunition.com/contact.htm

Anyway, this is the reply I received to the question of why there's no more Barnaul 9x18 being imported:


More or less Barnaul, the factory has been quite busy with there military obligations.

[North Bender]

Well, that reply approaches literacy but doesn't quite attain it.

I've read on other forums that the Russian Govt put in some huge ammo orders that stopped the plants from making stuff for export. Rumors rumors.

[CanyonMan]

It has seemed, like everything else to have dissapeared some what. But when i can get into a gun show, there sems to be some russian, or chech stuff around for about 6.00 per 50.


CanyonMan