Which Wolf???

[Generalcarry]

I have a new Armory SSR 85C 2 being shipped and no ammo:) I haven't heard many people speak kindly of Wolf ammo but I guess I'm going to have to order 1000 rounds "when it comes in". Is there one type of Wolf ammo that's better than the another? I know coatings vary.
I don't mean to offend anyone who loves Wolf, I really have no clue to what's good for this new gun.
Why would one finish be better than the other?
Thanks

[RMTactical]

Coatings don't vary. All new production Wolf is polymer coated. The older stuff is lacquer coated, but you shouldn't be seeing any. Cabelas lists some Wolf on their site, and the pic shows the Lacquer coated stuff, but it's polymer coated.

The Lacquer coated stuff got kind of "gummy" in the chambers of some people's guns, the polymer is a better overall coating although many people (including myself) never had issues with the lacquer coated stuff.

I'm not a big fan of Wolf but when I buy it I get the Hollow points because they are much more accurate when compared to the FMJ stuff.

I prefer Barnaul and Bear ammo.

[Generalcarry]

Ok, I'm on a roll now. I read where you said that AIM was suppose to restock but I couldn't find any 7.62x39 listed. I've already called Cabela's (per your advice) this morning and they will sell at the same price even if it's backordered.
They said they should get some the 26th of this month.

[billwade]

Gorelicks You really getting better accuracy with the hollow points. I get better accuracy with the FMJ. I'am shooting it out of a Norinco Mak-90.

[RMTactical]

Originally posted by billwade
Gorelicks You really getting better accuracy with the hollow points. I get better accuracy with the FMJ. I'am shooting it out of a Norinco Mak-90.

Yes, and not just in one gun, I have seen in several AK's as well that the HP's tend to be more accurate in general.

haha, not that this is saying much, I don't buy Wolf ammo for target shooting. It's all for plinking, but I like it to be as accurate as possible nonethless.

[cynical]

I don't know if I've ever heard anyone say they "love" Wolf ammo, but a LOT of people are very fond of the price!

As others have said, it's for practice and plinking, not for competition. It's cheap, and it (usually) goes bang when you pull the trigger. That's about it. You can't reload the standard Wolf ammo, although they are starting to produce brass-cased ammo that can be reloaded.

As far as the coatings go, the green cases indicate a lacquer coating that can soften when the chamber gets hot, as steady firing would do. There have been reports of the lacquer gumming up chambers after repeated steady firing sessions, but it's very unlikely to happen to an AK. The tighter the chamber, the more at risk your firearm is. It may be anecdotal, but it was enough to get Wolf to change to a (grey) polymer coating that doesn't have that problem. Unfortunately, it's hard to tell what a web site is selling as the pictures often don't reflect current stock.

[454]

I use wolf HP for plinking, Barnaul SP for more accurate shooting. I have not been able to find any Barnaul (Brown Bear) up here, so I do not dare to open my 1/2 case. Sportsman Warehouse just got Wolf HP in, so I grabbed a case ($151 for 1K). It's been flying off the shelf.

[Generalcarry]

Originally posted by cynical


As far as the coatings go, the green cases indicate a lacquer coating that can soften when the chamber gets hot, as steady firing would do.


I read the Calela's ad wrong the 1st time and perhaps you did as well? The ad says the green lacquered "ammo cans".

Starting with premium materials and using the most modern production techniques, Wolf crafts Russia's highest quality ammunition. Now it's available at an amazingly low price. Green-lacquered steel cases for reliability. Non-corrosive. With every 500-round lot you'll receive a NEW Dry-Storage Box, a $13.99 value.
# Available: 154-Gr. Soft Point; 500 rounds - 1 Dry Box
# 154-Gr. Soft Point; 1,000 rounds - 2 Dry Boxes

[cynical]

Originally posted by Generalcarry
I read the Calela's ad wrong the 1st time and perhaps you did as well? The ad says the green lacquered "ammo cans".

Starting with premium materials and using the most modern production techniques, Wolf crafts Russia's highest quality ammunition. Now it's available at an amazingly low price. Green-lacquered steel cases for reliability. Non-corrosive. With every 500-round lot you'll receive a NEW Dry-Storage Box, a $13.99 value.
# Available: 154-Gr. Soft Point; 500 rounds - 1 Dry Box
# 154-Gr. Soft Point; 1,000 rounds - 2 Dry Boxes

You lost me there. I'm referring to the actual cartridge cases themselves. Green cases are lacquer coated, grey are polymer. If you buy the sealed metal cans of ammo, I don't believe there is any relationship between the cans and the cases of the ammo themselves. In any case, the ad you quoted referred to dry boxes, not sealed metal cans/tins of ammo.

[Generalcarry]

My mistake. I do understand, you are refering to the casings themselves.

[Generalcarry]

Maybe I'm tiptoeing around my real question. I'm waiting for this piece to come and I don't want to shoot something through it that may screw it up. My long range goal is to pass it on to one of my kids or grandsons (no granddaughters....yet). If a few k of anything isn't going to hurt it, problem solved but....I don't want to take any chances.

[cynical]

Originally posted by Generalcarry
Maybe I'm tiptoeing around my real question. I'm waiting for this piece to come and I don't want to shoot something through it that may screw it up. My long range goal is to pass it on to one of my kids or grandsons (no granddaughters....yet). If a few k of anything isn't going to hurt it, problem solved but....I don't want to take any chances.

I feel pretty confident in saying that Wolf ammo of any type is not going to damage or in any other way harm a well-built and maintained AK. I think if you took an unopened, sealed tin of Wolf ammo, and used it to beat your AK, that's about the only worry. ;) As to the lacquer gumming up chambers, I believe that was only an issue with smaller, tighter chambers like most ARs. AK tolerances are much looser, and I don't think it's an issue.

[454]

Generalcarry--Russians use the same steel-cased ammo in their AKs. They've used green laquered ammo for years. Your AK will be fine.

[RMTactical]

Originally posted by 454
Generalcarry--Russians use the same steel-cased ammo in their AKs. They've used green laquered ammo for years. Your AK will be fine.

+1

Like I said, I never had issues with it in any caliber. I think some pansy-ass Americans like to whine too much about things.... Life is just too easy...