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carsoni
04-18-2006, 06:17
Anybody tried them?

IndyGunFreak
04-18-2006, 07:02
If you're talking abut the 24/7 from http://www.xssights.com (and I can't think of any others), then Yes, I've used them alot, since they were named Ashley Outdoor, and I loved them.

My preference is for the "24/7 Big Dot Tritum Front/Rear" sight, I've never tried the Std. Dot version. One thing about the Big Dot, is its really for up close and personal shooting. I've found 14-18yds is about the furthest I can get with these sights and maintain accuracy. I've heard of some folks being able to shoot them accurately out to 25yds, but for most, it seems they work best out to around 15yds.

If that is not a concern for you(ie, they are gonna be on a self defense pistol), then I say get them, I love them. For general defensive drills(7-10yds), they are extremely fast on target, and I've not had one bad thing to say about them...

You might try a search in Carry Issues for "Big Dot", these sights have been discussed there a lot.

IGF

Mark9Fogger
04-18-2006, 09:15
I am currently trying to acquire a set for my soon-to-be-purchased G27. Anyone know the lowest priced site for a set of these sights? Don't bother mentioning the Glockguy site. Their current batch of XS Big Dots were defective.

ShackleMeNot
04-18-2006, 13:39
XS Big Dot sights are the best fighting sight currently made. They are fast to acquire and provide a front sight that you can easily track while shooting on the move or shooting a moving target.

They are plenty accurate for shooting people sized targets out to 100 yards and beyond. I posted this video last week but maybe you didn't see it. It shows James Yeager hitting pepper poppers at 25, 50, 75 and 100 yards with Big Dots on a Glock 19.

http://www.xssights.com/assets/XS_Sights_Demo_LoRes-1.wmv

kengps
04-18-2006, 16:44
I love them myself. The great thing about the front dot is how well they work with both light and dark colored targets. The only complaint I have is the rear sight. The tritium rears would work better if they had a thin white outline around the glass vial. I get reflections off the vial in daylight, especially indoors. That makes it hard to see sometimes. I use the tritium rear model for my nightstand gun, and the non-tritium rear for my outdoors hiking and car gun. I have a TLR-1 WML on that one. At night you can get the front sight lined up with the target before flipping the light on and using the "shallow V" rear sight to line it up all the way. The biggest advantage for me is that I can focus on my target and see the big dot and the rear sight V shape really well. I know all the instructors say focus on the front sight. IMHO that is BS. Fine for target practise but when SHTF you are going to focus on your target. I think that is a physiological response that is unavoidable. If you are target shooting and focusing on the front "Big Dot" you will have problems. It obscures a lot of the target. If you focus on the target them you will see around it with the other eye. Works fine that way and that is what I practise for anyway. I don't reccommend the small dot front. You lose too much of the white reflective plastic disk around the tritium center.

I bought mine directly from xs sights. They are $120 and $90. You might find them elsewhere for $110. I haven't found the non-T rears stocked anywhere other than XS sights.

happyguy
04-18-2006, 17:15
Brownells carries all three versions of the sights but they charge MSRP unless you are a gunsmith.

Regards,
Happyguy:)

IndyGunFreak
04-18-2006, 19:49
Originally posted by ShackleMeNot
XS Big Dot sights are the best fighting sight currently made. They are fast to acquire and provide a front sight that you can easily track while shooting on the move or shooting a moving target.

They are plenty accurate for shooting people sized targets out to 100 yards and beyond. I posted this video last week but maybe you didn't see it. It shows James Yeager hitting pepper poppers at 25, 50, 75 and 100 yards with Big Dots on a Glock 19.

http://www.xssights.com/assets/XS_Sights_Demo_LoRes-1.wmv

Well I'll say one thing, He's mastered long distance shooting with those sights FAR better than I(or anyone I know), could ever dream to..lol. I wouldn't be able to do that with years of practice. :)

Very impressive... For the record, I obviously wasn't slamming the sights, I love them, but my success with them, well, lets just say its not near the level of Mr. Yeagers..lol.

They are great for what I want them for however, Up close and personal, defensive shooting.

IGF

ShackleMeNot
04-19-2006, 06:36
Originally posted by IndyGunFreak
Well I'll say one thing, He's mastered long distance shooting with those sights FAR better than I(or anyone I know), could ever dream to..lol. I wouldn't be able to do that with years of practice. :)

Very impressive... For the record, I obviously wasn't slamming the sights, I love them, but my success with them, well, lets just say its not near the level of Mr. Yeagers..lol.

They are great for what I want them for however, Up close and personal, defensive shooting.

IGF

I know you weren't slamming them, Indy. The video just shows that the sights are effective past the 7-10 yard mark that most people claim as their limit. They really show their worth up close but they aren't as imprecise as the anti-big dot crowd would have you believe. The top edge of the front sight (regardless of what make or model sight you are using) should be used to get a precise aiming point rather than the entire front sight.

Yeager is a good shooter, no doubt but we routinely teach our students to hit targets at 100 yards and beyond with their carry pistols. Shooting at distance just magnifies errors in your shooting fundamentals. If you master the fundamentals (sight alignment, sight picture, trigger control and follow through) hitting targets at 50 and 100 yards isn't that tough.

MrMurphy
04-19-2006, 11:26
I have the pre-24/7 Big Dot tritium (they came out a month later) and yes, they're fast, accurate, and easy to use.

I've made an offhand 50 yard headshot with them, surprising everyone including me, I hit the head. :) If you use the proper sight pic, with practice 30-50 yard hits aren't hard. At 2-25 yards moving and shooting, they're hard to match or beat. Heinie Straight Eights with the cut are the only thing even close.

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