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GreenBeret1631
04-24-2006, 14:48
US calls in Paras for Baghdad secret war
By Thomas Harding, Defence Correspondent
(Filed: 24/04/2006)

British paratroopers secretly operating in support of the SAS in Iraq are using American uniforms, weapons and vehicles as part of their cover, The Daily Telegraph has learned.

Although John Reid, the Defence Secretary, only announced this week that the Special Forces Support Group (SFSG) had become operational, a company of more than 100 paratroopers has been working for six months in Baghdad. They have reportedly become so successful that American special forces have called on their help.

The SFSG was formed mainly because it was found that small groups of highly trained SAS troopers did not have enough firepower to take on large groups of Iraqi and Afghan terrorists. The unit has already seen a substantial amount of action in Baghdad.

Whenever the SAS goes on raids to apprehend terrorists in highly dangerous areas of Baghdad, the Paras are used to provide perimeter security.

Arriving in US Humvees, dressed in American army fatigues and armed with C7 Diemaco guns - a Canadian made version of the M16, the men have fought several battles with insurgents while protecting SAS colleagues.

"The SAS are doing the smash and grab but all the contacts are happening on the perimeter and there are a serious amount of rounds going down the range," a Parachute Regiment source said.

"They are making a really good name for themselves with the Hereford blokes and the Americans. If the **** hits the fan and the SAS need them, the boys are there as a quick reaction force."

The troops were also believed to have been used to provide a security cordon as part of Task Force Maroon when the SAS rescued the peace campaigner Norman Kember and two other hostages.

The troops deployed to Baghdad at the end of last year after undergoing specialist training at the SAS headquarters in Hereford, including the use of American weapons and equipment.

"They wear US uniforms so they can blend in in Baghdad where a British paratrooper would stick out and draw unwanted attention," an intelligence source said.

"But they don't have their hair cuts 'high and tight', don't strut around like Americans and are certainly not trying to speak with American accents. They are loving it with all the American kit, and you can't keep them out of the PX shop [US military duty-free shops]."

The SFSG is mainly based on the 500 men of the 1 Bn The Parachute Regiment supplemented by a company of about 100 Royal Marines and a similar number of men from the RAF Regiment.

The group is based at St Athan, near Cardiff.

Horned Toad
04-26-2006, 12:20
So basically what they are saying is that the brits are over 10 years behind us in tactics and figuring out that direct action types need support to accomplish their job in some theaters.


And please show me a brit that doesnít strut around

Horned Toad
04-29-2006, 12:09
http://www.airforcetimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-1739387.php

Now for the rest of the story

Biscuitsjam
05-01-2006, 02:15
Hey, that's my old sector! Yusufiyah is a small town in the middle of a rural farming area just south of Baghdad. I think the events described actually took place in Mullah Fayyad, an adjoining town. If they flattened the whole area, it wouldn't be a very big loss.

scottish
05-04-2006, 21:03
So basically what they are saying is that the brits are over 10 years behind us in tactics and figuring out that direct action types need support to accomplish their job in some theaters.

Ummmmm, no :upeyes: Damn, are you clueless.

And please show me a brit that doesnít strut around

A Brit - do you mean someone from Scotland, England, Ireland or Wales? Many MILLIONS of people to choose from. I am sure that I can find someone that doesn't strut as you say :soap:

Horned Toad
05-06-2006, 00:52
Originally posted by scottish
Ummmmm, no :upeyes: Damn, are you clueless.



A Brit - do you mean someone from Scotland, England, Ireland or Wales? Many MILLIONS of people to choose from. I am sure that I can find someone that doesn't strut as you say :soap:

I always find that when someone goes out of they way to say they donít act like someone else, it means they are acting like someone else.


Brit news = US needs SAS help

US news = SAS part of larger team

Like either country ever has accurate news anyway.

And like I told some Paras year ago when I worked with them, calling me a yank is about as accurate as me calling someone from the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland a brit.

Squaw Man Wolfer
05-07-2006, 01:08
I think that this has a lot to do with the fact that the British area of responsibility (southern Iraq) is a lot quieter than up north.

Naturally, the SAS and the Paras want more action. This is basically like the U.S. Delta hits the objective, and the Rangers cover the perimeter or seal off the objective.

Also, dealing with the current insurgency in Iraq is strikingly similiar to the British experience in Northern Ireland. They have a lot of game time doing this, I suspect that most of the nuts and bolts tactics come from them.

I'm not 100% sure this story is accurate, though it probably is.