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sugarol
04-25-2006, 19:04
Dear sirs,

Greetings. Seeking permission to join.

Reading posts in this forum the past few months. Quite illuminating. Candid, too.

I am new to guns (just a few months). I presently have a Glock model 21 which, I like to think, is for defensive purposes. This is not an endorsement of any kind, but I like the Model 21 very much.

I am now thinking about entering competitions, IPSC or IDPA? And I plan to purchase a gun just for it. I am inclined towards the Glock Model 34 or Model 35. Also thinking about a 1911. I read somewhere that the Glock Model 34 performed quite impressively in competitions. A chap named Sevigny (?) won championships with it, out of the box.

May I have your comments and advice about what gun to buy, please.

Thank you very much.

Nick.

PS Where can I learn competition shooting? Is there anyone here willing to impart his knowledge, skills and experience to a tyro like me? How much is the fee? Thanks.

batangueno
04-25-2006, 19:56
:welcome:

The G34 is not legal in IPSC Production. Although you can use it in Standard Division but you will be scored in minor. A G22 or G35 would be great in Standard, you can choose the G17 if you want to compete in Production.

In the meantime, you can use your G21 for competition. You know, just to get the feel of it. Your only disadvantage would be the number of rounds per magazine, but that shouldn't be a problem for a beginner.

Wait, are you all set in getting another Glock for competition? If not, there's a whole lot of choices that will make your head spin. :supergrin:

You can try to watch IPSC matches to get you acquainted. For training, PM mo si jasonub. :)

mtho
04-25-2006, 19:58
Sir, the 34 and 35 won't qualify you for IPSC production. they would put you in standard div. I think they were meant to have an advantage on IDPA type competition which is quite few here compared to IPSC which is almost weekly.

wingz
04-25-2006, 22:33
Originally posted by sugarol

Where can I learn competition shooting? Is there anyone here willing to impart his knowledge, skills and experience to a tyro like me? How much is the fee? Thanks. [/B]


Would like to ask the same thing Bros... for Production Div. :cool:
Thanks


:welcome: :welcome: :welcome:

isuzu
04-25-2006, 22:51
Don't confuse IPSC with USPSA. In USPSA rules, Glock 34 and 35 are allowed in production division, but not under IPSC rules.

jasonub
04-26-2006, 03:45
for training ill pass you to lito pible. but you have to learn the basics and can shoot properly before he trains you.

so just ask advice on this forum and we will gladly help for free:)

Django
04-26-2006, 04:32
:welcome:

Use your Glock 21 meanwhile. It's a very good gun and you can compete with it in the Production Division. Whatever extra cash you have is better spent on ammo for practice.

To learn competition shooting, you should become a member of a gun club, preferably one situated near your residence.

Hang out with the BOGs during their practice shoots and you will get shooting lessons for free, too.

You never can find a friendlier bunch.

9MX
04-26-2006, 05:46
Originally posted by Django
You never can find a friendlier bunch.

+ nobody talks trash like the BOGs:cool:

nobody shoots like trash like us either:laughabove:

Eye Cutter
04-26-2006, 06:19
sikat naman....

Eye Cutter
04-26-2006, 06:20
go straight to a 1911/2011 format. you will not be disappointed!

Django
04-26-2006, 06:37
Originally posted by Eye Cutter
go straight to a 1911/2011 format. you will not be disappointed!


. . . and lead us not into temptation but deliver us from . . .

:devilishgrin: :devilishgrin:

royal glockster
04-26-2006, 07:50
Welcome to BOG Sugarol!, you can use your g21 for competition. It's a matter of familiarizing your gun. It's a good reliable gun really. Want to have one someday. Minus point lang ng glock is its grip angle as compared to 1911s. The rest, ok na.

I think you can use the g21 not only in production division but also in standard division because of the power factor it has. Happy shooting bro! :cool:

toxic
04-26-2006, 08:23
welcome Suragol, they said it all na.
but here's what i have to add .
Join a gunclub (yung reputable and FED accerdited) (with instructors and RO )in your area then tuloy tuloy na yan.

Anong Division ba balak mo salihan?
kung Prod. G17, CZ, Jericho, Norinco's are ideal piece/s
kung standard 1911 or 2011 flatform
kung open STI,SVI,SPS or the halohalo make overs some of our vet (darksider) Bogs have.

yung G34 g21 ( i have to open my IPSC rules)

For Rigs,holsters and stuff it will depend on your pistol . JR speed, CR speed Guga R, and others available in the market.

Eye Cutter
04-26-2006, 18:10
Originally posted by Django
. . . and lead us not into temptation but deliver us from . . .

:devilishgrin: :devilishgrin:

deliver from my bad influence??? mwehehehehehe!

i will rephrase my advise, sugarol...


go straight to an open pistol! hahahaha! :devilishgrin: :devilishgrin:

Seriously, ok ang g21. Kaya lang para kang naka single stack bec. of the load count. 13+1 lang kasi. Just reload going to the next position. Get plenty of magazines, at least 6. Mura na naman glock mags now. Pwedeng pwede ka na maglaro sa standard division.

for holster rigs and magpouches, member ng GT si Jun Gino, owner ng JR Speed. Meron tayong special discount sa kanya!

Allegra
04-26-2006, 20:38
Advice din mga sirs
Ano load ginagamit nyo sa 40 na glock na major? yung mejo safe naman ng konti. I'm nerbius eh
Subok ko lang mag glok 23 sa std.

sugarol
04-26-2006, 20:58
Thank you very much, gentlemen, for our kind responses. Quite helpful, I really appreciate it.

What is IPSC What is the most popular division in competitions? What caliber is most used? Is there a rules handbook available?

Ok ba the Glock 35? Can I use it in competitions?

I hope I don't burden you with my questions, my dear sirs.

Thank you.

9MX
04-26-2006, 21:29
Originally posted by sugarol
Thank you very much, gentlemen, for our kind responses. Quite helpful, I really appreciate it.

What is IPSC What is the most popular division in competitions? What caliber is most used? Is there a rules handbook available?

Ok ba the Glock 35? Can I use it in competitions?

I hope I don't burden you with my questions, my dear sirs.

Thank you.

most popular is still the standard divison. .40 cal in 1911/2011 format.

G35 is ok for Standarard but most shooters prefer the 1911/2011 platforms. mainly due to the trigger

casmot
04-26-2006, 21:31
:welcome: :welcome: :welcome:

Here you go...
IPSC (http://www.ipsc.org/)
IDPA (http://www.idpa.com/)
TSA (http://www.tacticalshooting.com/tsa/)
PPSA (http://www.ppsa.org.ph/)

Hope these links help.

Eye Cutter
04-27-2006, 00:47
Originally posted by Allegra
Advice din mga sirs
Ano load ginagamit nyo sa 40 na glock na major? yung mejo safe naman ng konti. I'm nerbius eh
Subok ko lang mag glok 23 sa std.

fafa: baka mahirapan ka to meet major factor sa G23 with the short barrel...

eto load data gamit ko sa G22 ko dati in production division.

VV N320 4.0gr 155gr teflon heads PF is a very manageable and soft shooting 140.

Kung puro alpha naman, competitive ka pa rin sa Std division using minor loads

Allegra
04-27-2006, 01:56
Originally posted by Eye Cutter
fafa: baka mahirapan ka to meet major factor sa G23 with the short barrel...

eto load data gamit ko sa G22 ko dati in production division.

VV N320 4.0gr 155gr teflon heads PF is a very manageable and soft shooting 140.

Kung puro alpha naman, competitive ka pa rin sa Std division using minor loads

Oo nga noh , kaso yun lang mahiram kong baril eh
ayoko na gumastos , minsan lang ako putok :)trp trip lang
My mags and rig are nasa hiraman , soon pati cz ko ma arbor na hehe
Thanx for the info

Eye Cutter
04-27-2006, 05:29
oist! ako unang aarbor ng cz mo! kung hindi isusumbong kita kina sir louie! sabihin ko pinagpalit mo ng puri yung bigay nilang cz!

mwehehehehe!!!:supergrin:

Allegra
04-27-2006, 06:14
Originally posted by Eye Cutter
oist! ako unang aarbor ng cz mo! kung hindi isusumbong kita kina sir louie! sabihin ko pinagpalit mo ng puri yung bigay nilang cz!

mwehehehehe!!!:supergrin:


hehe may basbas ng diwata si cz , mawawala ang magic pag ibinigay sa iba :)

MR_BIG
04-27-2006, 08:34
Originally posted by Allegra
Advice din mga sirs
Ano load ginagamit nyo sa 40 na glock na major? yung mejo safe naman ng konti. I'm nerbius eh
Subok ko lang mag glok 23 sa std.

ako sir 180gr@950 fmj reload sa g35. runs well with 14lb recoil spring, but i like it to run a little flatter, ill try a 12lb spring next month or cut some coils off sa 14 pounders.

Sugarol,

sir, im selling 5 g21(13rounds) mags for 10k only, paranaque area, never been used, extra mags ko sya for my g30....btw, bnew mags is 3500.......each

mc_oliver
04-27-2006, 12:26
Real guns use cmores! :supergrin: :supergrin: :clown:

gundog
04-27-2006, 20:18
Originally posted by mc_oliver
Real guns use cmores! :supergrin: :supergrin: :clown:

:alex: :thumbsup: :woohoo: :perfect10: :panties: :snoopy: :wave:

atmarcella
05-04-2006, 05:33
Originally posted by Allegra
Advice din mga sirs
Ano load ginagamit nyo sa 40 na glock na major? yung mejo safe naman ng konti. I'm nerbius eh
Subok ko lang mag glok 23 sa std.

master A,

kaka load lang ni judge sakin, n320 4.1grams 200grain heads, ill know dis weekend sa match mismo if it makes major, till then...:supergrin:

jimbullet
05-30-2006, 00:12
Guys,

Is a g26 allowed in competition too? I guess yes, but can I stick a g17 or a g19 mag in it to have more firepower?

toxic
05-30-2006, 02:40
yung G26 pwede din kaso luge ka sa mag capacity and long shots mas ok yung G17, G26 is ideal for carry and in IDPA comps.
For IPSC G17 is the way to go , that is kung wala kang all metal boomer.

Vault Keeper
05-30-2006, 03:12
Originally posted by jimbullet
Guys,

Is a g26 allowed in competition too? I guess yes, but can I stick a g17 or a g19 mag in it to have more firepower?

G26...? Pwedeng pwede yan! :cool: Just like me when I had my first IDPA at Armscor...was using my g26...yon, second ako...to the last :bigsmile:

But seriously, if you get proficient with it, its a big plus for you! Enjoy shooting and stay safe.

atmarcella
05-30-2006, 05:36
Originally posted by atmarcella
master A,

kaka load lang ni judge sakin, n320 4.1grams 200grain heads, ill know dis weekend sa match mismo if it makes major, till then...:supergrin:

allegra,

the load data above made 175pf!.... cguro 3.9 pwede na;)

batangueno
05-30-2006, 08:59
Originally posted by jimbullet
Guys,

Is a g26 allowed in competition too? I guess yes, but can I stick a g17 or a g19 mag in it to have more firepower?
In IPSC you will probably be in Standard or Open category scored in minor but surely you will still have lots of fun. :)

There's a BUG (BackUP Gun) category in IDPA but i don't think they separate them in the local matches before.