Grip Safety

[bobcleanG17]

Read an article recently in which the author completely tore apart the use of the grip safety on the 1911. He had a single piece backstrap (done by Novak, I think) put on his kimber and completely got rid of the grip safety. Any opinion on this... anyone ever tried it.

if this has been discussed before just ignore it.

[FDC]

I personally like grip safeties. I can't feel them while I'm shooting so I wouldn't mind having them on all my pistols.

[pangris]

Novak won't sell them to an individual... I tried to order one out of curiousity.

Considering how much they want, parts and labor, I'll stick with my grip safety. For me personally, it hasn't ever been a problem.

Paul

[Ford302Glock21]

If nothin else it feels pretty neat when I grab it. I like em

[Drjones]

Originally posted by bobcleanG26
Read an article recently in which the author completely tore apart the use of the grip safety on the 1911. He had a single piece backstrap (done by Novak, I think) put on his kimber and completely got rid of the grip safety. Any opinion on this... anyone ever tried it.

if this has been discussed before just ignore it.


What purpose does that serve?

[bobcleanG17]

His whole gripe was that grip safety didn't really serve a purpose unless they were tied into the firing pin somehow (which they were not until recently), supposedly regular grip safeties do not even serve as a drop safety, because hitting a hard surface (with the thumb safety off) could still cause the sear to fail and the gun to go off.
the main reason he removed it is because he was constantly having a problem releasing the grip safety when he was shooting "high thumb" or with his thumb over the thumb safety.

[liliysdad]

Sounds like he went to a lot of work for no reason. The safety can be replaced with one having a Memory bump, and the thumb safety with a Gunsite Low Mount. Problem solved, and an essential safety kept.

[Drjones]

Originally posted by liliysdad
Sounds like he went to a lot of work for no reason. The safety can be replaced with one having a Memory bump, and the thumb safety with a Gunsite Low Mount. Problem solved, and an essential safety kept.


:goodpost:

[pangris]

I wouldn't call the grip safety essential - IMHO it is, at best, a relatively reliable moving part that doesn't contibute to function.

If I were riding around on horseback in 1915, I might say it had some purpose - but in 2006, I could do without it.

In the end, I don't mind it much - I have big hands and it deactivates every time.

Paul

[tjpet]

Two simple solutions - tape or pin the safety down, buy a BHP. Problem solved.

[sheepdog]

I've failed to engage the grip safety a few times on one gun. When they come out with a factory 1911 without one, I'll probably take a hard look at it.

[pangris]

Originally posted by tjpet
Two simple solutions - tape or pin the safety down, buy a BHP. Problem solved.

They make a BHP in .45 ACP?? With a horizontal plane trigger? Etc Etc?

[dale taylor]

Always be aware of your liability risk if you remove a safety. A plantif's attorney will eat you up. daleltaylor@att.net

[Drjones]

Originally posted by dale taylor
Always be aware of your liability risk if you remove a safety. A plantif's attorney will eat you up. daleltaylor@att.net


I've asked this question many times but have NEVER received a response:


Has it ever been PROVEN IN A COURT OF LAW that modifications to a weapon (or use of a "scary-looking" weapon in self-defense) has had ANY bearing WHATSOEVER on the outcome of the case?

I personally am not aware of a SINGLE such instance.

If you'd like to prove me wrong, I'd love to see the evidence.

[dale taylor]

Dr Jones, I can't quote one, but I don't want to be the "first". As a MD I am all to familiar with plantif attorneys. Again beware. daleltaylor@att.net

[larry starling]

Originally posted by liliysdad
Sounds like he went to a lot of work for no reason. The safety can be replaced with one having a Memory bump, and the thumb safety with a Gunsite Low Mount. Problem solved, and an essential safety kept. +2 sounds like another example of someone trying to fix a problem that doesn't exist.....:upeyes:

[Bushflyr]

I'd like to read that article if you've got a link. It's not that bad a mod if you've got the inclination and the money. Consider the number of competition shooters that either pin, rubber band, or otherwise disable the safety. Since it's only a trigger block, as long as you keep your booger hook off the bang switch you should be fine.

[happyguy]

If you are going to get rid of the grip safety, simply remove it from the pistol, break off the arm that contacts the trigger bar, and reinstall it in the pistol. If the question ever arises the correct answer is..."Gee, I wonder how long that's been broken."

Regards,
Happyguy:)

[pangris]

Originally posted by happyguy
If you are going to get rid of the grip safety, simply remove it from the pistol, break off the arm that contacts the trigger bar, and reinstall it in the pistol. If the question ever arises the correct answer is..."Gee, I wonder how long that's been broken."

Regards,
Happyguy:)

You are a f'n rocket scientist. I haven't heard anyone say that before, but damn if it wouldn't work just fine...

Unless some nimrod put the "safety" to the test with a live round :shocked:

But as a practical matter - not a bad idea.

Paul