Is this a problem

[Ramses II]

Just picked up my standard S&W 1911 Blued today. I bought it from Bud's Gun Shop. Eventhough the case was scratched up and had a 1/4" of dust on it, the pistol looked great except.............a section of the muzzle seems to have some lead build up (looks like after you been shootin'for a while). The build up is pretty tuff and after a thorough cleanin, I can't get it to budge. Is this normal? Should I shoot it? What if it shoots like crap? Solutions?

Thanks,
Ramses II

[Ramses II]

I think I'll try some Sweet's 7.62 on it.

Ramses II

[tous]

Originally posted by Ramses II
I think I'll try some Sweet's 7.62 on it.

Ramses II

Sweet's is intended for copper fouling.

Both Shooter's Choice and Outers have solvents designed for lead fouling. Your local gun shop should stock them. If those don't work, get a Lewis Lead Remover.

Good luck, mi amigo.

NB: lead fouling has an appearance of 'cloudiness' along the bore as you look down it. Copper fouling looke like copper-colored streaks. Powder fouling looks like icky black stuff. :clown:

[bobcleanG17]

If it looks like this... There is a problem with barrel and it will need to shipped back for replacement...

[Ramses II]

The bore isn't a problem. It's the muzzle. Wish I had a camera that would show the definition better, I'd post a pic.

There are what looks like flat beads on the muzzle where it meats the bore. I usually see this on all my handguns after extended shooting periods. It's lead build-up, and comes off with some strong scrubbin'.

I tried everything I have, and this stuff isn't lead. I think it must be some manufacturing defect. I'm concerned, because I know that scratches on the muzzle can effect accuracy. I won't be shootin matches, but for $727 I expected better.

Anyhow, I think I'll just take er shootin and see how she does. If she shoots well, I'll forget about...eventually.

Ramses II

[Ramses II]

Found the Problem.....

I learned to shoot the 1911 by resting my right thumb on the manual safety lever (I'm right handed). I have always shot 1911s this way, and never had an issue with any (Including the S&W 1911 I rented a while back) except for my new S&W 1911.

Here's what happens, when I grip the pistol (as described above), my palm engages the grip safety, the grip safety is not pushed in all the way. Again, I've never had an issue with this. The grip safety is engaged enough to drop the hammer.

With my new S&W 1911, the grip safety is engaged enough to drop the hammer, but something dragges the hammer and it does not hit the firing pin with full force.

I tested this by using a pencil. I ensured the pistol was empty. Pointed the pistol at the ceiling and dropped a pencil down the barrel to rest on the firing pin hole (eraser end resting on the firing pin hole). I griped the pistol firmly with my right thumb below the manual safety and oulled the trigger. The pencil flew right out of the barrel and landed on the floor. Next, I tried my normal grip, resting my right thumb on the manual safety and pulled the trigger. This time, the pencil barely jumped and rested back in the barrel.

What solutions do I have, I like the grip I have (resting on the manual safety). Should I allow the parts to work in or just develop a new grip?

Ramses Ii

[Kruzr]

It's your firing pin safety which is released by the Grip Safety being fully engaged. Your firing pin is not being unblocked. You need to grip it with the GS fully engaged or adjust your grip a little to keep the bottom pushed in.

[freepatriot]

Originally posted by Ramses II
Found the Problem.....

I learned to shoot the 1911 by resting my right thumb on the manual safety lever (I'm right handed). I have always shot 1911s this way, and never had an issue with any (Including the S&W 1911 I rented a while back) except for my new S&W 1911.

Here's what happens, when I grip the pistol (as described above), my palm engages the grip safety, the grip safety is not pushed in all the way. Again, I've never had an issue with this. The grip safety is engaged enough to drop the hammer.

With my new S&W 1911, the grip safety is engaged enough to drop the hammer, but something dragges the hammer and it does not hit the firing pin with full force.

I tested this by using a pencil. I ensured the pistol was empty. Pointed the pistol at the ceiling and dropped a pencil down the barrel to rest on the firing pin hole (eraser end resting on the firing pin hole). I griped the pistol firmly with my right thumb below the manual safety and oulled the trigger. The pencil flew right out of the barrel and landed on the floor. Next, I tried my normal grip, resting my right thumb on the manual safety and pulled the trigger. This time, the pencil barely jumped and rested back in the barrel.

What solutions do I have, I like the grip I have (resting on the manual safety). Should I allow the parts to work in or just develop a new grip?

Ramses Ii



Twilight zone time...

What the **** does your grip problem have to do with the lead fouling problem that the rest of this thread is about??? :headscratch: :headscratch: :headscratch: :headscratch: :headscratch: