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Grayson
05-30-2006, 15:35
...and to be honest, I'm afraid to break out the magnifying glass and take a close look at all the signs INGLES has up, since I've missed this one for so durn long!

My morning walk before work was ruined as I took the time to actually carefully read the dozen-plus little boxed notes at the Bi-Lo's entrance. In there amongst which credit cards they take and the 'no shoes no shirt etc' bit, was a revolver in a red no symbol with "Weapons Prohibited."

Since it's an official-looking 'standard issue' sign, and not a cheap 'no-gun' sticker like at GO Grocery Outlet, I'm not even gonna bother with the local management (since I doubt they have the authori-tah to change it if they wanted to), but start higher up with making my case:

*A 'no-gun' sign is an invitation for a robbery, since there's less chance of getting shot by a 'good guy.'

*CCWers cannot be convicted felons, and at least in this state we cannot start a fight of ANY kind. Our fingerprints are on file with the government, and we've cleared background checks. How much do they know about their OTHER customers? ;)

*Finally, where many people are pro-gun, if not CCWers themselves....posting is bad for business. Guys like me see it as an insult, and will take our $$$ elsewhere! :soap:

The Pontificator
05-31-2006, 08:12
gotta be something posted by a store mgr. I worked Bi-Lo stores in central SC for 11 years and never saw posting one in any of them.

USMCSKI
05-31-2006, 10:13
get into law enforcement....carry just about anywhere.

Grayson
06-04-2006, 07:23
Carry ABOUT anywhere? I need to find me a place that even prohibits LEOs to carry...I can test the "crime dosen't pay" theory! ;)

But seriously, I think I'll just stick to boycott and letters of protest. Less chance of getting shot at at work that way! :supergrin:

...unless I take on a posted business that's 'mobbed up...!' :shocked:

USMCSKI
06-04-2006, 09:27
Originally posted by WNC_Ghostbuster
Carry ABOUT anywhere? I need to find me a place that even prohibits LEOs to carry

Try the county jail......its about the ONLY place I know of that I can not carry.
I believe we (LEO's) have to check our weapons at federal courthouses also.

Strider47
06-12-2006, 13:36
Bi-Lo went t**s up around here. They're all Southern Foods now.

Pitt
06-13-2006, 17:59
I'll have to look at the next Bilo I go to. I used to carry there all the time.


I've got to renew that thing.:upeyes:

Grayson
09-04-2006, 17:52
Well, got after Bi-Lo again and finally got a response...just the right combo of liberal B.S. and butt kissing! :freak: Some names and e-mails ommitted to protect the innocent and the sheeple! ;)

>Mr. _______,
>
>I have read a memo referencing your concern for the signs we have on our
>store in Burnsville concerning not carrying guns into the store. Please
>allow me to explain why we have these and what our company's expectations
>are:
>
>1) Guns are not a real issue, but bringing them into our store could place
>us at great risk should something go wrong with an individual carrying one
>into one of our operations.
>
>2) We could potentially place our customers and teammates in harms way if
>someone wanted to be a 'hero' and used their firearm if we were being
>robbed or such.
>
>3) Lastly, why would there be a need to carry a firearm into one of our
>stores unless you are with the state or local law enforcement agency? If
>the gun is in plain view it terrifies many folks, especially mothers.
>
>Mr. _______, please understand that we appreciate your shopping with us
>and taking the position you have concerning guns, but everyone who carries
>weapons are not as responsible with them as you most likely are and this is
>the reason we don't care to have guns in our stores. It would be nice if
>everyone who carries firearms are licensed, but we both know this is not
>the case. Therefore, we can't govern those carrying guns, with licenses,
>and those without. Our position is to take the lesser risk by asking that
>NO guns enter our stores.
>
>Please feel free to call me if you have further questions.
>
>
>Best regards,
>
>Clayton Bishop
>Asheville District Manager

The Pontificator
09-06-2006, 11:58
I have no doubt that Mr. Bishop is doing this on his own. I have NEVER seen a posted Bi-Lo store in SC and I worked a bunch of them for 12 years as a vendor.

You need to contact Bi-Lo's corporate HQ in Mauldin, SC and you need to write a letter, not send an email.

I'm also very surprised that such a store in Burnsville would even be posted to begin with. Granted, I haven't been there in probably 16 years but as I recall that part of the world is pretty anti-liberal. Asheville? Yes. But Burnsville?

Grayson
09-06-2006, 20:56
I dunno....I think Asheville is starting to "bleed" onto Burnsville personally. I hear a lot of Bush-bashing, seen a lot of "Kerry/Edwards" stickers, see a lot of "Joe Sam Queen" and "Heath Shuler" signs currently...

And that's just Burnsville and the surrounding area...I NEVER go to Asheville, I head "across the border" (TN) instead! :supergrin:

Anyhow, thanks! I'll sure take your advice on going up the ladder! Maybe it'll help.

I assume this would be the mailing address, in case anyone else comes across this topic and is "feeling froggy" :thumbsup:

BI-LO, LLC ATT: Consumer Relations
P.O.Box 99
Mauldin, SC 29662

The Pontificator
09-07-2006, 15:43
You're not paying attention.

You need to address the letter directly to the chain's president or CEO. "Consumer Relations" is a gate-keeper whose job is to send you another condescending letter.

Grayson
09-07-2006, 16:43
Gotcha...

A bit of net digging led me here, what could be VERY useful for contacting other store CEO's as well:

http://www.citizen.org/cmep/articles.cfm?ID=9556

Mr Dean Cohagan, CEO, looks like who I need to reach.

chrisemt
09-08-2006, 22:46
That's F'd up about BiLo. Here in SC I noticed the sign which is about a 2 x 4 inch sticker with all the other anouncments on the glass of the sliding doors of the entrance.

Lucky enough for me here in SC that those signs are not of legal size to keep me from shopping while armed.

-Chris

The Pontificator
09-11-2006, 16:27
I gotta run over to Bi-Lo here in the morning. I'll take a look. No legal weight for me no matter what they post but I wanna see.

Grayson
09-11-2006, 20:46
I'd really appreciate it if you (or anyone outside of the Asheville district) would check out your local Bi-Lo. That way I'll know if it's a whole company thing, or just this one guy.

If it's just the "DM's choice" then I can point out that "blood isn't running down the produce department" in places that aren't posted. And I've been running under the assumption that it's a new company-wide policy anyway, so no biggie if it is...

Sgt. Schultz
09-12-2006, 08:11
No posting that I can find at the Bi-Lo on Emanuel Church Rd in West Columbia.

Glocks&Ducs
09-15-2006, 20:41
If it holds no legal standing in SC, that may be why you guys aren't seeing the signs there. They aren't putting them up becuase they know they don't mean anything.

In NC, we can't carry into any place that indicates they don't allow handguns. I'm not talking about being escorted off the property either. You are being charged and your CCW is being yanked.

Grayson
09-20-2006, 20:47
Well, here goes nothing...letter away!

Hope he even gets the dang thing. Since I didn't think his home address was readily available, I settled for a company one.

BTW...anyone shop at "Brunos?" Apparently it and Bi-Lo are under the same roof, just under 2 different brands. Wonder if THEY post?

The Pontificator
09-27-2006, 13:02
Well, I'll be damned...

Our local Bi-Lo here is also posted.

What they have is a window decal divided up into aproximately 2 dozen sections each measuring 1" high by 2" wide. In almost all of the little rectangles are the various EBT, credit, debit, and ATM logos but one of them has a crosed-out handgun that says "no weapons allowed". You really have to look for it to see it. That window decal has been there for ages I just never noticed that little part.

Again, such signs carry no legal weight in SC

VWglocker
10-05-2006, 08:31
aside from the post office i honestly have no ideas what places are and aren't posted. don't much care either.

Grayson
10-27-2006, 16:53
GOT my reply letter from the CEO today.

I haven't the time or inclination to transcribe it right now, but it reminded me of when I first started working under my current boss. He had taken on the extra duties of "customer relations" guy, dealing with all customer complaints. I told him that he was like the diplomat for the company. To which he replied:

"Brother, 'diplomacy' is a fancy term for telling someone to go to h*** in a way that makes them look forward to the trip!"
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Dean Cohagan obviously subscribes to this school of diplomacy! ;)

He said the signs just went up 5 years ago when CCW laws were passed in NC (guess you can substitute years and states for the other BiLo locales). That there were few comments, most of them complimetns on the signs... :upeyes: And that banning guns on store property was still a "reasonable request" to prevent accidental or INTENTIONAL acts of violence! :crazy:

IN OTHER NEWS, I hear that INGLES (a place that RESPECTS CCWers! ...or at least leaves us alone...!) is taking donations for a feed-the-poor charity soon! :thumbsup:

The Pontificator
10-27-2006, 17:05
I say you should start shopping at Ingles and start saving your receipts. When you get anough to make an impression, make photocopies and send them to Bi-Lo's CEO via registered mail.

Hey, it's a start.

I always liked that Ingles on N. Merrimon Ave. in Asheville..across the street from The Fresh Market.

Grayson
08-20-2007, 17:33
w00t!!! A survivor of "the server purge!"

Soooooo...I noticed that Bi-Lo's employees have undergone a bit of a makeover, going from maroon shirts to blue. And I also heard something about "new management." I assumed it was just a local thing, but I stopped by out of curiosity....

Some different, cleaner-looking signage all around. And NO "gunbuster" sign!

'Course, it could be that they just have a new one on order, to match the other purdy new signs....

So, interesting to know that I CAN carry there, but I don't INTEND to if the same bunch of hardcore anti-gun zealots are in charge. Or, maybe I'll carry in there but just not BUY anything! :supergrin:

heels23
08-20-2007, 17:50
I work for Food Lion and we have such wonderful policies. Not only do we not have any no gun signs that I am aware of, I can carry legaly and according to company policy while I am at work. Good to know considering a month ago at 3 A.M. a car of college age guys were found sitting behind my star doning ski mask armed with 3 pump shotguns. It probably would not have been a good night if it was not for an alert local LEO.

Grayson
09-27-2007, 17:14
:bump:

Just still wondering if there's been a change somewhere upstairs on their rabid anti-carry stance?

k3sls
09-27-2007, 20:22
Maybe it has something to do with this:

Lone Star Funds To Seek Buyer For BI-LO
April 10, 2007

Dallas, TX

Lone Star Funds today announced its intention to seek a buyer for its portfolio company, BI-LO, LLC ("BI-LO"). Merrill Lynch & Co. has been retained as the lead financial advisor and William Blair & Co, LLC as the co-advisor in assisting in the strategic evaluation process. Lone Star Funds and BI-LO do not intend to disclose developments with respect to the possible sale of the company unless and until its Board of Directors has approved a specific transaction.

About BI-LO
BI-LO, a portfolio company of Lone Star U.S. Acquisitions, LLC, is one of the Southeast's leading supermarket chains. The Company operates approximately 230 supermarkets under the BI-LO banner in four southeastern states and has leading market positions in various attractive markets, including Chattanooga, TN, Charlotte, NC and its home market of Greenville, SC.

About Lone Star Funds
Lone Star is a leading U.S. private equity firm. Since 1995, the principals of Lone Star have organized private equity funds totaling more than $13.3 billion to invest globally in secured and corporate unsecured debt instruments, real estate related assets and select corporate opportunities.

Contact:
Ed Trissel
Joele Frank, Wilkinson Brimmer Katcher
(212) 355-4449

Grayson
09-29-2007, 17:25
Interesting...thanks!

Gary_P
10-06-2007, 19:33
I wonder how much my bi-lo cards would fetch on Ebay?


Gary

kirgi08
10-20-2007, 08:48
Funny thing about Bi-Lo,I was at the Patton Ave store and at any time Managers all carried Male and Female.Granted that was a long time ago and the company was foriegn owned.As big of corporate bootlickers the corporation was back then it suprised me either the GM didn't know(doubtful)or didn't care.I take my money elsewhere,Ingles on Patton/Leicester.'08.

k3sls
12-18-2007, 22:39
Just an update...the Bi-Lo in North Myrtle Beach, SC is NOT posted!