My PM9 slide stops halfway when I chamber a round!

[Philly K-9]

Ok, I've had my PM9 for about 6 months now. So far so good as far as shooting malfunctions are concerned! My only complaints are that I’m not thrilled with the “Post & Dot” type sights and this one other problem I’d like to ask about.

When I rack the slide to chamber a round, weather from full battery or from a locked-back position the slide stops about halfway and stays there. It doesn’t “lock” in place. I can just tap it back into battery or re-rack the slide.

It even does this when I clear the chamber to unload the weapon. When I pull the slide back to eject the chambered round and let it go the slide will stop about midway. Most times it stays that way unless I correct it.

I keep all of my weapons cleaned and well oiled, the PM9 especially. Is this a defect? Or is it just an annoyance?

[Dandapani]

When you load first round, do you use the slide stop to release the slide or sling shot method?

"Half way" is a pretty long out of battery position. How well do you lube the barrel? What lubricant?

What color is your recoil spring? Could you have the old design? (Someone will chime in with the new spring color...)

[EDH]

It should not have a lip along the front of the hood.Mine went back for the peening problem and had the exact same problem. search previous threads for barrel peening.check out some of the pix people have posted.it took Kahr 6 wks to replace the slide and barrel.

[warmrain]

Old spring colors are grey and copper. New spring color is black.

Chambering a round by dropping the slide is a nuisance with these pistols. When chambering a round Kahr recommends using the slide stop. I prefer to rack the slide...

It takes some practice to get it right. It has to be BRISK. You MUST slide forcably off the rear of the slide.

It helps to have a polished feed ramp (a little).

If this happens when you are NOT chambering a round (e.g. clearing the chambered round during an unload, then this is a different problem and you may have a defect.

What is the exact situation?

[Philly K-9]

"Old spring colors are grey and copper. New spring color is black.

Chambering a round by dropping the slide is a nuisance with these pistols. When chambering a round Kahr recommends using the slide stop. I prefer to rack the slide...

It takes some practice to get it right. It has to be BRISK. You MUST slide forcably off the rear of the slide.

It helps to have a polished feed ramp (a little).

If this happens when you are NOT chambering a round (e.g. clearing the chambered round during an unload, then this is a different problem and you may have a defect.

What is the exact situation?"

Ok, When I clear the already chambered round by slowly pulling back the slide the slide gets stuck about halfway when I let it go forward.

The slide also does this when I try to chamber a round by racking the slide.

My spring is black.



"Check the top of the barrel hood
It should not have a lip along the front of the hood.Mine went back for the peening problem and had the exact same problem. search previous threads for barrel peening.check out some of the pix people have posted.it took Kahr 6 wks to replace the slide and barrel."

I'm sorry to sound ignorant but where is the barrel hood?

[warmrain]

Barrel hood is generally the part that is visible through the ejection port in the slide when the pistol is in battery. Specifically it is the part at the rear on top that extends to the rear of the chamber...

Do not pull the slide slowly to the rear ever...

Try this...

Whenever you are emptying the pistol or chambering the intial round (or clearing a malf., for that matter), rack the slide with such briskness and force that you slip off the slide and smack yourself in the chest.

When you get it to work reliably you can work on not hitting yourself... Really...

Try it and let us know...

[douglevy]

Originally posted by warmrain
Try this...

Whenever you are emptying the pistol or chambering the intial round (or clearing a malf., for that matter), rack the slide with such briskness and force that you slip off the slide and smack yourself in the chest.

When you get it to work reliably you can work on not hitting yourself... Really...

Try it and let us know...

Or try this...

Sell it for as much as you can, even if for a loss, and put the money toward a better, more reliable gun.

Jeez, the more I hang out in Kahr forums, the farther down the garbage goes my previous desire to purchase a PM9.

[warmrain]

Originally posted by douglevy
Or try this...

Sell it for as much as you can, even if for a loss, and put the money toward a better, more reliable gun.

Jeez, the more I hang out in Kahr forums, the farther down the garbage goes my previous desire to purchase a PM9.
I understand your frustration, however I must say that the method I descibe is how I teach students who are having trouble riding the slide... It works...

Yes, the PM9 is a fussy little thing and I keep trying to find something as small, light and powerfull... Maybe a R9S... But that is a LOT of $$...

[warmrain]

douglevy,
Let me add that I love the G26, but after you've had a PM9 in your pocket, it's pretty hard to get anything fatter or heavier.

Besides the R9S there's a Seecamp 380... Though I prefer at least 9mm...

And both are nearly 2x the cost of the PM9... though if they are reliable... !!!

[flyandscuba]

Originally posted by warmrain

Besides the R9S there's a Seecamp 380... Though I prefer at least 9mm...

And both are nearly 2x the cost of the PM9... though if they are reliable... !!!

I've got the R9S, LWS380, and a PM40. What I carry on a daily basis depends mostly by the cut of the pants (pocket) I'm wearing on a given day. All three of these pistols have been 100% flawless (maybe I'm just lucky). However, when I can -- I try to carry the PM40, loaded with Corbon DPX ammo...I simply like the power of the .40 S&W round for defense in such a small package.

[warmrain]

Originally posted by flyandscuba
I've got the R9S, LWS380, and a PM40. What I carry on a daily basis depends mostly by the cut of the pants (pocket) I'm wearing on a given day. All three of these pistols have been 100% flawless (maybe I'm just lucky). However, when I can -- I try to carry the PM40, loaded with Corbon DPX ammo...I simply like the power of the .40 S&W round for defense in such a small package.
I think in the case of the PM40 you are lucky. Kahr could never get mine to feed of the top of any magazine we tried... They gave up. Happy to hear the others are working for you. How's the recoil one the LWS380 compared to say... the PM40?

My other current option is a NAA Guardian that I also carry when the cut of the pants won't handle the PM9, but the LWS380 is the same size!

[flyandscuba]

The Seecamp is slightly smaller than the Guardian 380/32NAA -- but you might not notice the difference much.

Here's a great comparison chart of pocket pistols:

http://www.mouseguns.com/PocketAutoComparison.pdf

I don't find the recoil unpleasant in the LWS 380. I do, however, dislike the recoil of the R9S compared to the PM40....much rather shoot the PM40.

[warmrain]

Originally posted by flyandscuba
The Seecamp is slightly smaller than the Guardian 380/32NAA -- but you might not notice the difference much.

Here's a great comparison chart of pocket pistols:

http://www.mouseguns.com/PocketAutoComparison.pdf

I don't find the recoil unpleasant in the LWS 380. I do, however, dislike the recoil of the R9S compared to the PM40....much rather shoot the PM40.
Yes, the NAA .32 Guardian is ever so slightly larger. Really, just in slide width IIRC. And just enough that it won't slip into a LWS holster (that is finely boned). And I know the LWS 380 is the same size as the LWS 32, pretty cool!

The comparison chart is really from the seecamp web site originally.

I found the PPK and the NAA 380 (quite a bit larger than the NAA 32) to be nasty in recoil (and I and recoil insensitive). Every one of us that shot the PPK, NAA 380 and PM9 beside each other commented on how little felt recoil the PM9 had in comparison to the other two. I tink the lockup design of the PM9 is responsible for that. The NAA and PPK recoil more like a revolver...

In the R9 is the barrel part of the frame as it is with the PPK, NAA and LWS?

Have you ever shot a Colt Pony or Mustang?

[flyandscuba]

No, the R9 has a removable barrel.

Haven't fired either the Mustang or Pony.