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antediluvianist
06-10-2006, 19:46
Glock kills bear
http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/wildl...-7706309c.html


Homeowner shoots bear inside house

By TATABOLINE BRANT
Anchorage Daily News

Published: June 2, 2006
Last Modified: June 2, 2006 at 04:53 PM


A large black bear broke into an Anchorage home early this morning, rummaged around like a burglar and feasted on a box of chocolates before the homeowner shot him dead with a Glock.


The bear entered the two-story Stuckagain Heights house on the Anchorage hillside around 2:30 a.m., according to police.

Stan Knowlton, who lives next door to the house, said his son and daughter-in-law own the place that was ransacked. They were asleep in their bedroom with their Rottweiller, Baby, when the dog started barking wildly, he said.

The bedroom door was closed. Outside, the couple could hear things being knocked over.

Police spokesman Lt. Paul Honeman said the owners initially thought the bear was a burglar. They could not be reached for comment.

Knowlton said his son quickly determined the real identity of the intruder.

"He opens the (bedroom) door and he's face to face with this big black bear," he said. "He slammed the door right away."

Knowlton said his son hollered at the bear to go away and it ran downstairs. The man grabbed a .40-caliber Glock automatic handgun from another bedroom and looked around. The bear had knocked some things over and eaten a box of chocolates that had been sitting near the couch.

"It left all the heart candy sitting in a basket there," Knowlton said.

Knowlton said the bear started back up the stairs toward his son. He shot the animal multiple times and it went back downstairs.

Knowlton said his son didn't know if the bear was dead. He called police. Honeman said the sergeant who responded quipped that he'd been in many a hairy situation over the years, but few so scary as entering a house where there might be a wounded bear on the loose.

Officers found the bear dead in a bathroom, surrounded by a pool of blood and scat. Knowlton said state wildlife officials came and picked up the carcass. It took four people to load it into the truck, he said.

paltiq
06-10-2006, 20:11
sabi ko na nga ba at .40 ang kailangan ko e:)

magkano po kaya ang Glock 22 na OD ngayon? please help me Deenoh. Thanks... advisable ba na sa Gunshow ako mag-downpayment or hindi ko na kailangan pang hintayin mag-gunshow? tnx;)

kristiansen
06-10-2006, 22:16
that's why i have a G22 on my side.though i have'nt seen a bear in 40 years!:beer:

mikey177
06-11-2006, 02:14
Knowlton said the bear started back up the stairs toward his son. He shot the animal multiple times and it went back downstairs.

Even with the vaunted .40 cal round, the bear had to be shot more than once. So much for the one-shot stop myth. Also, the bear went back downstairs... it had enough strength to climb down the stairs and enter a bathroom; it didn't drop dead on the spot. So I'd say shot placement still counts bigtime when in a life-and-death struggle. Of course I've never shot a bear before so I have absolutely no experience on this matter.

Now, if the bear was shot by a .45, the shockwave alone would be enough to vaporize the poor critter and end the fight then and there :supergrin:

atmarcella
06-11-2006, 23:57
:laughabove: :laughabove: :laughabove: :laughabove: :laughabove:

antediluvianist
06-12-2006, 03:29
Actually, the bear was packing a .45 but the 1911 jammed so he died.

atmarcella
06-12-2006, 04:36
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

you guys are killing me!

blueeagle
06-12-2006, 04:48
Originally posted by antediluvianist
Actually, the bear was packing a .45 but the 1911 jammed so he died. the bear should have packed a philippine made "eskwala"!!!!!ahe-he! :supergrin:

choi_tan2000
06-13-2006, 19:41
mga sirs

pwede ba magtanung kasi im so confused na tough i have 45 and 9 mm gsto ko parin bumili ng 40 glock for caryy purpose malaki po ba diff ng stoping power ng 40 and 45 pls help tnx

choi_tan2000
06-13-2006, 20:19
THE STOPPING POWER OF DIFFERENT HANDGUN CARTRIDGES
2/22/2003
Posted on 02/22/2003 8:34:22 PM PST by 2nd_Amendment_Defender
General Julian Hatcher, a noted forensic pathologist, in the early 1900ís developed a good formula to determine the theoretical stopping power of a firearm cartridge. His formula has withstood the test of time and validation from other studies and data related to stopping power.
You want a handgun cartridge that has a Hatcher value of over 50 for the most effective stopping power. Values over 55 have diminishing returns in that you donít gain any significant increase in stopping power for the extra recoil and control you must cope with. Handgun cartridges that donít make a value of at least 50, should not considered for self-defense. If the rating of your handgun cartridge is under 30, it only has about a 30% chance of producing a one shot stop. Hatcher Ratings of 30 to 49 raise a one shot stop to approximately a 50% chance. Ratings of 50 or higher produce a one shot stop about 90% of the time.
Handgun Cartridge Type ..................... Hatcher Rating
.45 ACP full metal jacket 230 grain .......... 49.1
.45 ACP jacketed hollow point 230 grain ...... 60.7
.44 Magnum full metal jacket 240 grain ....... 92.3
*.44 Magnum lead wad cutter 240 grain ......... 136.8
.44 Special full metal jacket 240 grain ...... 51.6
*.44 Special lead wad cutter 240 grain ............. 76.5
.41 Magnum full metal jacket 230 grain ............. 54
*.41 Magnum lead wad cutter 230 grain .............. 80
10 millimeter full metal jacket 180 grain .......... 50.3
10 millimeter jacketed hollow point 180 grain ..62.1
.40 S&W full metal jacket flat nose 180 grain ...... 53.4
.40 S&W jacketed hollow point 180 grain ....... 59.4
.38 Special full metal jacket 158 grain ...... 26.7
*.38 Special lead wad cutter 158 grain ............. 39.7
**.357 Magnum full metal jacket 158 grain ..... 32.7
**.357 Magnum lead wad cutter 158 grain ............ 48.5
.357 SIG full metal jacket 147 grain ................ 36.6
.357 SIG jacketed hollow point 147 grain ..... 45.2
9 millimeter full metal jacket 147 grain ............ 32.3
9 millimeter jacketed hollow point 147 grain ... 39.9
.380 Auto jacketed hollow point 95 grain ..... 18.3
.32 Auto jacketed hollow point 71 grain ...... 11.1
.25 Auto jacketed hollow point 50 grain ...... 3.7
.22 Long Rifle jacketed hollow point 40 grain ... 4.2
* Jacketed hollow points will have the same rating as wad cutter bullets if the bullet hollow tip is greater than 1/2 of the caliber of the bullet.
* .357 Magnum ratings are taken from a firearm with a 3 inch barrel. Longer barrels will raise the rating of the round.

choi_tan2000
06-13-2006, 20:20
mga sirs i got this on net just this mrning hope it could help me decide and so the others from our group

antediluvianist
06-14-2006, 00:49
What the Hatcher data indicate is that if you use a .22lr to kill a bear, you have to shoot him , oh, a dozen or so times in each ball. This is embarrassing and everybody will wonder about your fixation on balls so use a .40 or a .45.