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arnoldb74
06-14-2006, 21:47
Hi! Just thought I'd share another interest of mine. Aerial photography using RC helicopters.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y62/arnoldb74/aerial%20stuff/HELICAM1.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y62/arnoldb74/aerial%20stuff/P2050005.jpg
The rig.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y62/arnoldb74/aerial%20stuff/P3160018.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y62/arnoldb74/aerial%20stuff/wideview.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y62/arnoldb74/aerial%20stuff/tank.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y62/arnoldb74/aerial%20stuff/lower.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y62/arnoldb74/aerial%20stuff/tank2.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y62/arnoldb74/aerial%20stuff/IMG_6917.jpg

Thanks.

arnoldb74

sundancekid
06-14-2006, 22:09
nice! :cool:

9MX
06-14-2006, 22:13
cool!:cool:

how would you like to join us in one of our matches, have your chopper film us, then incorporate the footage on mco's next mtv:beer:

horge
06-14-2006, 22:21
Nice!!!!

Assuming the RC helo is reasonably robust and durable, dude,
if you can succeed in strapping radar onto that thing,
you could help the Philippine Navy extend the sensory range on
its ships. Right now they're limited by mast height, and UAV's
are the easiest way to massively raise a (virtual) radar mast.

Maski pang favorable-weather man lang, right?
Shouldn't be too hard to keep one of those on PN ships.



:)
h.

arnoldb74
06-14-2006, 22:24
Sure! Just not sure about the noise the engine makes. It can be distracting to the shooter.

I'm currently building an industrial grade rc helicopter. It's a 100cc twin engine and has a payload capacity of 45 lbs. Enough to carry heavier high definition cameras. It will also be complete with a GPS guidance system for better stability in air. The kit is with me. I'm just trying to find time to assemble and test it.

Thanks.
arnoldb74

9MX
06-14-2006, 23:12
i like your hobby. btw, are you able to view the images remotely?

arnoldb74
06-15-2006, 07:46
Hi! It's a two-man system. One pilots the helicopter, the other one controls the camera. It has a separate tilt and pan , shutter control, and a live video downlink for accurate framing. I used a powershot S70 for the pictures above.

I also used a minidv to shoot some videos. We flew it to a height of 2000 ft above ground(based on onboard barometer, well above visual range. The only way to control it was thru the video downlink system. I'm assisted by gyros and gps to stabilized the heli, but video was not as good because of strong winds at that altitude.

9MX
06-15-2006, 08:32
arnold,

if you don't mind, how much would it cost build that kind of a chopper? sans the camera

arnoldb74
06-15-2006, 18:36
Hi!

Basic helicopter and radio setup would set you back around 120k. Navigation electronics like GPS and UAV conversions is another story. I've attempted to fly fully autonomous flight twice and almost lost the helicopter! GPS signal sometimes become unreliable. I've researched a much better post paid GPS service but its $3000 a year!!

Thanks.

Arnold

batangueno
06-15-2006, 20:45
9MX, trade mo na lang yung open gun mo for an RC Helicopter. :supergrin:

Great hobby arnold. :thumbsup:

napinap
06-15-2006, 21:10
nold,

hi!

if i may ask, the actual flying nung rc heli is another thing or nasa manual ba?

btw, coolest hobby in town!

arnoldb74
06-15-2006, 21:48
Napinap!

Hi! You need a whole lot of training to fly the helicopter. The manual doesn't cover it. I went thru a couple of crashes before becoming a safe rc pilot. My new system however, will allow almost anybody to fly it virtually without crashing. With GPS guidance and gyros, even my seven year old son can fly it.

There's also one time that I tried combining my interest in firearms and aviation. I hooked up an airsoft pistol and a simple camera to the same rig. May tilt and pan siya plus a servo para sa trigger. Instant weaponized UAV heheh! Pinanghabol namin ng baka dito sa Laguna. But I know it will raise too many issues kaya scrap project.



Thanks for responding!

Allegra
06-15-2006, 22:12
Originally posted by arnoldb74
Napinap!

Hi! You need a whole lot of training to fly the helicopter. The manual doesn't cover it. I went thru a couple of crashes before becoming a safe rc pilot. My new system however, will allow almost anybody to fly it virtually without crashing. With GPS guidance and gyros, even my seven year old son can fly it.

There's also one time that I tried combining my interest in firearms and aviation. I hooked up an airsoft pistol and a simple camera to the same rig. May tilt and pan siya plus a servo para sa trigger. Instant weaponized UAV heheh! Pinanghabol namin ng baka dito sa Laguna. But I know it will raise too many issues kaya scrap project.



Thanks for responding!



why scrap the project? ganda nga eh
everytime you shoot someone yu say...Time to die mr Bond

arnoldb74
06-15-2006, 22:52
Checkout this video. Airplane gamit namin with telemetry and some GPS guidance for stablity. Try to guess where I'm flying over. BTW, at 3000 feet, we have no visuals of the aircraft.
We're just relying on the video downlink its sending back to the ground.
http://i2.zvhost.com/2/e/ej833o13.jpg (http://www.zippyvideos.com/1141625535379606/starosa2005/*arnoldb74)

Eye Cutter
06-16-2006, 00:41
wow! mas maganda yatang hobby yan kesa beng-beng!

sa sta. rosa ba yung field ninyo? i know several eye doctors who also fly rc helos. sila Hector D. Kilala mo sila?

Allegra
06-16-2006, 05:09
Originally posted by Eye Cutter
wow! mas maganda yatang hobby yan kesa beng-beng!

sa sta. rosa ba yung field ninyo? i know several eye doctors who also fly rc helos. sila Hector D. Kilala mo sila?


Doc do yuo know Dr Hufana or a Dr Ona?

arnoldb74
06-16-2006, 06:13
Hi! The doctor I know is Doctor Estrada. That's from way back circa 80s sa Mambog, Cavite pa kami.

Here's another one at 15000 ft. Clouds na lang.

http://i2.zvhost.com/2/i/i7cd7887.jpg (http://www.zippyvideos.com/5263965085381416/15000/)

Coltylito
06-16-2006, 10:27
[QUOTE]Originally posted by arnoldb74

Here's another one at 15000 ft. Clouds na lang.

:shocked: whew..that was way higher than our real chopper cruising altitude @6500ft. Ang tindi pala ng RC heli..Ang cool ng hobby mo sir.

Eye Cutter
06-16-2006, 17:34
Originally posted by Allegra
Doc do yuo know Dr Hufana or a Dr Ona?

si dr. ona ba na general surgeon na taga UDMC and NKI?

ang galing talaga! Yung boss ko, si Dr. Chuanico also flies RC helos. Dati dun sila sa Ateneo and Capitol Hills nagpapalipad. Sabi niya mas mahirap helicopters than airplanes paliparin

Allegra
06-16-2006, 18:48
Originally posted by Eye Cutter
si dr. ona ba na general surgeon na taga UDMC and NKI?

ang galing talaga! Yung boss ko, si Dr. Chuanico also flies RC helos. Dati dun sila sa Ateneo and Capitol Hills nagpapalipad. Sabi niya mas mahirap helicopters than airplanes paliparin



Baka thta's his uncle , pero he's also a gen surgeon
I though baka kaklase mo sa med school :)
Kaklase ko sila nung pre-med

isuzu
06-17-2006, 10:10
Pardon my ignorance, but should you have that kind of equipment registered with the ATO, considering that the RC chopper is carrying another type of equipment?

9MX
06-17-2006, 10:54
Originally posted by arnoldb74
Hi!

Basic helicopter and radio setup would set you back around 120k. Navigation electronics like GPS and UAV conversions is another story. I've attempted to fly fully autonomous flight twice and almost lost the helicopter! GPS signal sometimes become unreliable. I've researched a much better post paid GPS service but its $3000 a year!!

Thanks.

Arnold

OMG! palalayasin na ako ng asawa ko niyan:freak:

paltik45
06-17-2006, 13:16
Originally posted by napinap
nold,

hi!

if i may ask, the actual flying nung rc heli is another thing or nasa manual ba?

btw, coolest hobby in town!


Sir, I've been to several hobby shops here in the US particularly "hobby town USA." They have several software that will teach you to fly an RC airplane and chopper using a mock-up control panel. BTW, in ngayon din dito yung "Jet powered" RC plane. Thats right, Jet engine yung gamit nila and the smallest that I saw was 3inch diameter by 12" long.

isuzu
06-17-2006, 19:43
Originally posted by arnoldb74
Hi! The doctor I know is Doctor Estrada. That's from way back circa 80s sa Mambog, Cavite pa kami.

Here's another one at 15000 ft. Clouds na lang.

http://i2.zvhost.com/2/i/i7cd7887.jpg (http://www.zippyvideos.com/5263965085381416/15000/)

Oooops! If I'm not mistaken, 15,000 ft is beyond the allowable altitude for an RC to operate legally. For safety's sake, remember that there is high speed IFR air traffic at that altitude, especially commercial airliners. My best guess is that your RC doesn't have a transponder and your RC's location can't be picked up by an aircraft's radar or an aerodome's radar. Your RC getting sucked into a jet engine could prove disastrous to a commercial airliner.

Just my two cents.

arnoldb74
06-18-2006, 01:23
Isuzu,

You're absolutely right. Maximum allowable altitude for UAVs and RPVs is 900 Ft! I stopped flying RC at that altitude already. My current project involves flying autonomous from point to point. I'm still looking for an insurance company that will cover liability.

I was also trying to get clearance for ATO for my "flying robot". Their response was: "What's a UAV?" In my research, the craft I'm flying should fall under commercial aircraft since it is carrying photography equipment and basic avionics.

I've also tried a jet turbine RC but they're too EXPENSIVE. I'll stick to IC engines for now!

Thanks.

isuzu
06-18-2006, 09:59
Originally posted by arnoldb74
Isuzu,

You're absolutely right. Maximum allowable altitude for UAVs and RPVs is 900 Ft! I stopped flying RC at that altitude already. My current project involves flying autonomous from point to point. I'm still looking for an insurance company that will cover liability.

I was also trying to get clearance for ATO for my "flying robot". Their response was: "What's a UAV?" In my research, the craft I'm flying should fall under commercial aircraft since it is carrying photography equipment and basic avionics.

I've also tried a jet turbine RC but they're too EXPENSIVE. I'll stick to IC engines for now!

Thanks.

Hi Arnold! Some people in the ATO are just pathetic. They need to do their homework, seriously.

I used to watch RCs when I was still a kid. I still watch them from time to time. During the mid-70's when there were lots of RC enthusisasts in Bacolod (even those from Manila came there for a competition), my favorite RCs were a Bell Jet Ranger, a P51 Mustang, and a P-47 Thunderbolt.

By the way, what you did flying at 15,000 ft and what you are doing now are firsts in Philippine aviation. And I believe that 15,000 ft is the highest altitude that an RC engine has ever gone.

Please constantly update us on your achievements. :)

arnoldb74
06-18-2006, 18:30
Thanks isuzu!

Philippine army is also developing their own UAV for military intelligence and surveillance. I've been invited a few times to have a look at their aircraft.

Anyways, my primary purpose for my project is to develop a flying cam for film purposes catering to tv commercials and high end movies. For now, its just a hobby and a dream. Heheh!;)

arnold

napinap
06-18-2006, 21:03
originally posted by paltik45

Sir, I've been to several hobby shops here in the US particularly "hobby town USA." They have several software that will teach you to fly an RC airplane and chopper using a mock-up control panel. BTW, in ngayon din dito yung "Jet powered" RC plane. Thats right, Jet engine yung gamit nila and the smallest that I saw was 3inch diameter by 12" long.


paltik45,

many thanx for the info.

choi_tan2000
06-19-2006, 02:42
arnold

hanep yan ah grabe sarap na bisyo yan ala nga lng me pambili hehe cguro have to sell 2 to 3 guns for that hehe nyc hobby ha san kau sa laguna ako sta cruz.

arnoldb74
06-19-2006, 03:00
Hi!

I'm from Sta. Rosa Laguna.

Thanks.

arnold

choi_tan2000
06-19-2006, 03:04
oh nyc to hear kabayan san gunclub ka member rolas ba?

me palaru sa lakers on june 25 nakaputok kna ba dun sa calamba

arnoldb74
06-19-2006, 03:26
Hi Choi!

I'm a member of MRPSC-(Manila Rifle Pistol Shooting Club). Used to live in Pasig. Now, I'm also a member of LPSA(Lakeside Practical Shooters Assoc). I'm not sure if I'll join shootfest in Masili, Calamba. I've sold my PARA hicap years ago, so I'm left with my Smith 3913TSW. I'm concentrating in shotgun lately and have joined a number of shotgun matches including the one in Tierra Del Fuego. But, I'm bitten by the bug again and might get involved with standard pistol division. I've a PARA frame which i've kept in my "baul" in case I wanted to go back.

Thanks.

choi_tan2000
06-19-2006, 19:39
its ok arnold.

ok ah.. I think its good to play shotgun also, actually im planning too but i am lokking for a average unit also mybe armscor ok din ba panglaro un (shotgun). nyc hobby talaga san ka ba malimit magpalipad ng heli mu pag me nakita ako sa pasig and laguna im sure kaw na un hehee. good day

choi_tan2000
06-19-2006, 19:41
i think ur s & w are same of what warrik i using (CSI Las Vegas) hehe nice gun ha.

choi_tan2000
06-20-2006, 21:58
hey mr. arnold have u tried flying ur heli sa caliraya i think ul be having a great view there of the lake along with mountains .

tnx

arnoldb74
06-20-2006, 23:16
Nope! Haven't tried flying my helicam over Caliraya. I've been there a couple of times. Madami kasing tao. Might be a little hazardous flying a 40lbs unmanned machine!! I flew the helicam over Taal lake once, I nearly lost the Heli! GPS can sometimes a pain in the A**!!!

Thanks.