Choosing: AmeriGlo Operator or TruGlo TFO

[BusterDog]

I've narrowed my choice for new sights for my G23. Which would you choose?
Some info:
http://pic1.picturetrail.com/VOL1120/3939077/8153157/157907158.jpg
The tritium based Operator sight has white outline on the front sight only. The rear sight does not have the white outlines forcing the shooter to concentrate on the front sight. They have also thinned the front sight to allow more daylight to be seen between the front and rear sight allowing for faster target acquisition. This sight is installed with either a MGW or Glock rear sight tool.

http://pic1.picturetrail.com/VOL1120/3939077/8153157/157905905.jpg
# The ultimate handgun sight.
# Uses our patented TFO technology.
# Unbelievable transition through all light conditions.
# Glows in the dark.
# Uses the brightest tritium available.
# CNC machined steel construction.
# Green front and rear.
# Concealed fiber cannot be seen by target.
# Fits standard holsters.
# Snag-resistant design.

[rslintii]

Had them both... now only use truglo TFO. Nuff said! Best< Robert

[CharlieTN]

Just got a set of the TFO's and I'm sold. I've had Meprolight and Trijicon and they just don't compare to the brightness, in all lighting conditions, of the TFO's.

Shot an IDPA match this past saturday with them and it was so easy to find that front sight. Really fast.

Later,

Charles

[dport]

Ameriglo.

[donnrcp]

TFO. Bright green dots, day or night on my G32.


:patriot:

[BusterDog]

3 votes for TruGlo TFO
1 vote for AmeriGlo Operator

I've placed my order for a set of TruGlo TFOs with GREEN front and YELLOW rear. I only found these at two sites and one was already sold-out. The cost was a little more $92.99 but shipping was less $4.99.

They are both excellent sites but my old eyes will appreciate the fiber optic during daylight hours. If I was younger I think I'd go fot the AmeriGlo.

Thanks for the opinions.

[army_eod]

I know you already ordered. If this is a SD gun, the fiber has been known to break. For SD, the operators are probably better for durability and fragility.

If you are just shooting targets...

[dwinnie]

I just put a set of TFOs on my 27, I had them installed on my 23 about 2 months ago. I suggest you consider the Yellow Back and Green Front sites. The contrast really makes it easy to site the target.

[stevehof]

Originally posted by army_eod
I know you already ordered. If this is a SD gun, the fiber has been known to break. For SD, the operators are probably better for durability and fragility.

If you are just shooting targets...

The TFO light pipes are recessed and well protected by the metal frame of the sight...I suspect they are no more prone to failure than any other tritium night sight.

[TexasGlock23]

TFO all the way!

[ColoradoGlocker]

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[dfwglock]

Where are you finding the TFO's with green front and yellow rear? I have checked all of my sources and all they have are the green/green? thanks.

[BusterDog]

Originally posted by dfwglock
Where are you finding the TFO's with green front and yellow rear? I have checked all of my sources and all they have are the green/green? thanks.
I got them from a dealer that lives by TruGlo in Austin Texas. He sells through ebay and other sources.

His name is Paige Stauffer and his email is:

paigestauffer@hotmail.com

At first I thought green/yellow sounded fishy so I contacted TruGlo support. Sure enough, they offer these as a special order item (not on website) but Paige stocks them. Another vendor also listed them but they had been out of stock for awhile.

I found him to be extremely quick on communications and interested in my satisfaction. If you choose to buy from him, let Paige know you talked to me on GlockTalk. I found out about him on another GlockTalk thread:

http://glocktalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=552857

The picture below is not mine. GlockTalk member John Stone posted it on the thread for which I provided a link.
http://pic1.picturetrail.com/VOL1120/3939077/8153157/162475399.jpg

[dfwglock]

Thanks! Just sent Paige an email (including your name as the referral). Appreciate your quick reply. doug

[TexasGlock23]

I thought Tru-Glo was in Richardson?

http://www.truglosights.com/

[TexasGlock23]

TRUGLO, Inc. 710 Presidential Dr. Richardson, TX 75081 972.774.0300 972.774.0323 (fax)


But they could have opened another one with how popular they are here.

[lunde]

I have both types of sights on my Glocks. I am new to the Tru-Glo TFOs, and thus far like them a lot. Below are photos of my Glock 38 with all-green TFOs installed.

http://lundestudio.com/photos/g38-tfo-rear-left.jpg

http://lundestudio.com/photos/g38-tfo-rear-right.jpg

http://lundestudio.com/photos/g38-tfo-front-left.jpg

[BusterDog]

Lunde,

Nice pictures. I noticed on the third photograph, which shows the front side of the rear sight, it appears the fiber optics protrude. Is the fit and finish here pretty crude or is it just lint on the sight which shows-up in the photo?

I ask because my green/yellow TFOs arrived and the front of the rear sight was pretty crude with some kind of black putty stuck in the holes where the light pipes must have been inserted into the sight body.

I would have taken a refund but the distributor said he never saw such a problem before and was eager to make things right. He held a good opinion of TruGlo and cited his many law enforcement customers. He also wanted my set to take to TruGlo for inspection.

I'll let you know what happens when the replacement set arrives.
http://pic1.picturetrail.com/VOL1120/3939077/8153157/163091503.jpg

[dfwglock]

YUCK!!!! Thanks for posting this. I was getting ready to order two sets - one for the g27 and one for the g26. Think I will wait to see how this plays out. Please keep us posted.

[TexasGlock23]

dont let that stray you from buying them. As you can see, do a search! We are all satisfied with them. It is your choice, but I LOVE mine and seriously will only buy them

[BusterDog]

My replacements arrived with today's mail. They look much better but it is obvious they patch holes with some compound after putting the fiber optic in the sight bodies.

These are acceptable. TruGlo could do a much cleaner job in this area. It just appears to be an easy thing to fix with a little more attention to detail.

The side of the sights you use to acquire a target look very nice.

[GPalmer]

Must have been some unusual circumnstances. The compound in both of mine are quite nicely applied and smoothed over, it's not soft and would not come off if wiped and the optics are tucked up inside the tubes. I've been using them for about a month and they've been very good. The night sights did take a bit of getting used to since they require you to center the front dot over the target but then, they'd be pretty useless for their intended purpose if they didn't!

[BusterDog]

Originally posted by GPalmer
Must have been some unusual circumnstances. The compound in both of mine are quite nicely applied and smoothed over, it's not soft and would not come off if wiped and the optics are tucked up inside the tubes. I've been using them for about a month and they've been very good. The night sights did take a bit of getting used to since they require you to center the front dot over the target but then, they'd be pretty useless for their intended purpose if they didn't!
Take a look at the 3rd picture lunde posted (nice stuff, he must be a professional photographer.) In this shot you see the muzzle end of the rear sight. See the holes that have been filled?

The muzzle end of my replacement rear sight looks better than does lunde's in his photo. There are still depressions and holes were definately filled. The first set I received were much worse and totally unacceptable.

I guess I'm wondering how much variation there is in the quality of TruGlo's patch jobs. It just seems like this should be a non-issue and the sight finished off nice and clean.

Other that that, the sights are very nice. Mine are brighter than my stock Glock night sights. Also, nowhere else can you find the tritium/ fiber optic combination.

Once installed and I 've used them, I'll post further observations.

Maybe I'll pose this question on a dedicated thread?

[BusterDog]

I forgot to mention...

The sight radius of my G23 has been substantially reduced by switching from standard Glock sights to TFOs. TruGlo's front sight needs to be extra long to expose sufficient surface area of the fiber optic. I'll measure with my calipers, but it looks like 1/2" to 3/4" shorter sight radius.

I shoot IDPA and I suspect the better visibility of the TFOs will more than offset the shorter sight radius.

[GPalmer]

Originally posted by BusterDog
The muzzle end of my replacement rear sight looks better than does lunde's in his photo. There are still depressions and holes were definately filled. The first set I received were much worse and totally unacceptable.
Agreed, that's what I was saying. I also agree that your first set was pretty bad but neither set I have looks anything like those.

[BusterDog]

Originally posted by TexasGlock23
I thought Tru-Glo was in Richardson?

http://www.truglosights.com/
You're correct. I should have said he lives in Fort Worth (not Austin)and works a few miles from TruGlo.

[RayB]

According to the OEM web site, the overall warranty is only 90-days, while the tritium-glow is covered for 12-years.

I gotta tell you, while I really like the concept, the 90-day thingy bugs me...

The occasional crappy putty job, makes me suspect "refurbs". :freak:

--Ray

[TexasGlock23]

Originally posted by RayB
According to the OEM web site, the overall warranty is only 90-days, while the tritium-glow is covered for 12-years.

I gotta tell you, while I really like the concept, the 90-day thingy bugs me...

The occasional crappy putty job, makes me suspect "refurbs". :freak:

--Ray

on that note, listen to a FEW bad comments over many satisfied comments all over the web and buy Trijicon or Meps. No one here is trying to persuade you, just merely telling you the good and bad.

I can tell you this, I am 100% happy like I have stated many times. And Truglo has wonderful CS, so if something happens I am sure they will take care of you.

You do know that employees or machines aren't perfect. Take Glock for example, they do have flaws now and then. But they still sale like hot cakes;)

[BusterDog]

The picture below is a cropped version of the one lunde posted on this thread.

This is what I mean as far as the quality of the "putty" job on these sights. Is there an engineering need for something like this or is it just poor finishing?

I just don't get it. The sights are beautiful in all other aspects (as you can see by the other pictures lunde posted.) And, they are certainly an innovative, useful, one-of-a-kind use of tritium with fiber optics.

I have experience with three sets of these sights. They ranged from terrible to bearable to merely acceptable (putty job only.) On each I believe I could have done a cleaner job with some JB Weld and my Dremmel sander.

Considering only the finish, what are others seeing? Am I being too picky to expect a clean finsh on a $100 set of sights?

http://pic1.picturetrail.com/VOL1120/3939077/8153157/164020386.jpg

[RayB]

Originally posted by BusterDog
I have experience with three sets of these sights. They ranged from terrible to bearable to merely acceptable (putty job only.) On each I believe I could have done a cleaner job with some JB Weld and my Dremmel sander.

Considering only the finish, what are others seeing? Am I being too picky to expect a clean finsh on a $100 set of sights?



No. You're not being too picky. That workmanship is s@&t! The manufacturer needs to clean up their act. :nono:

If you are what you do, sign your work with excellence.

Yesterday, I commented very fairly on these sights in a separate post.

--Ray

[TexasGlock23]

I did not have that problem with mine at all. Who knows, I have had mine for almost a year though when they were alot cheaper also. I bought and had them installed for $75;)

[BusterDog]

<I>F.Y.I.

I emailed TruGlo support and asked them to respond to the sight finish problem. They seem concerned and willing to stand behind the quality of their product. Here it is:</I>


We had another customer contact us about the sights you mentioned I
will attach my comments below. Thank you for letting us know.

Our policy is we do not respond to forums. Since we manufacture
Archery and Gun equipment that relate to target shooting and hunting
enthusiast we currently could not keep up with all the different forums.
Since we are world wide that increases quite a bit to include forums
popular over seas. Thankfully most of the shooters read them and reply
but always contact if they have an issue or question and we do our best
to take care of them.

Again please see my comment below on the sights. Thanks again Paul

This is very uncharacteristic of our sights. If the fiber is sticking
through the back of the sight it could have been tampered with. Although
in the picture the fiber looks to be in place. No excuses we stand
behind our sights and we always take care of the customer. We are having
a very difficult time meeting the demands and in a hurry something might
go wrong but again we will make it right.

The way the sights are built is the fiber is placed in first then the
tritium sits behind it then a layer of white compound, and then the
sights are sealed with Black Max. The black max dries very hard and
should not be gummy or soft.

Thank you
Truglo, Inc.
710 Presidential Dr.
Richardson, TX 75081
Tel (888) 887-8456
Fax (972) 774-0323

[TexasGlock23]

Great CS right there

[mfetty]

Have Ameriglo's on my 19 and I hate them. Dots are to small and hard to see in the daylight. Saw some Tru glo at gun show yesterday on a Sig. I will be putting a set on my 19 as soon as i get the money. You can see them in any light, they are great.

[Greg W]

I am very interested in the Yellow/Green combo for my Glock 21. Has anyone here tried this combo on a 21?

Thanks.

[dasanii19]

Does anyone have "machined" looking rings, or O's ran down the path of where the Hex screw sits on the rear sight?

The metal finish on my rear sight doesnt look quality either, is this normal or should I *****?