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horge
06-25-2006, 02:01
:) :) :)

Following the stone-cold trail of
Bog Quiz Part I (http://www.glocktalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=489023)
Bog Quiz Part II (http://www.glocktalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=492534)
and
Bog Quiz Part III (http://www.glocktalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=513410)...

Here are 10 more firearms-related quiz questions.
Subukan ninyo lang ---just for fun!

1. On what superior legal document does PNP-FED base its requirement
of Gun Club Membership certification, upon owners wishing to register
and license a sidearm of .40 cal and greater?

2. How do you open a bottle of San Miguel Pale Pilsen with a
mil-spec M1911 or M1911A1?

3. Which of these standard-load handgun cartridge FMJ's cannot
be counted on to penetrate a present-day car door (window up),
if launched from a typical combat/service sidearm:
.38 Special, .45 ACP, 9mm Parabellum, .380 ACP and .40 S&W ?

4. What is the minimum number of licensed firearm owners required
as members, to legally set up a gun club?

5. Name at least three (3) eye doctors within the BoG ranks.

6. What is possibly the OLDEST known 'gun-law' applied in the
Philippines?

7. What type of wartime combat action did the IPSC's Jeff Cooper (USMC, Ret.) see?

8. What are the legal restrictions on private ownership of ballistic vests?

9. Name at least five (5) select-fire firearms presently
and commercially manufactured and marketed in the Philippines.[/b]

10. Which foreign porn starlet got into some legal trouble in 1998,
at an indoor firing range, for target-shooting without any clothes on?
Bonus points for any photos... hehe.. J/K about the photos.

----

Bonus Question: What was the most widely-distributed cal. 11mm handgun
in the Philippines?

Bonus bonus question: What legislation directly addresses airsoft guns?



-horge

Eye Cutter
06-25-2006, 02:19
Here are 10 more firearms-related quiz questions.
Subukan ninyo lang ---just for fun!

1. On what superior legal document does PNP-FED base its requirement
of Gun Club Membership certification, upon owners wishing to register
and license a sidearm of .40 cal and greater?

is this based on the old rule that civilians can only own .22 cal rifles and pistols? and if a civilian wants to own a firearm greater than .22 caliber, they have to be a gun club member wherein the firearm is registered to the gunclub and the owner is the user? this was repealed during erap's time di ba?

2. How do you open a bottle of San Miguel Pale Pilsen with a
mil-spec M1911 or M1911A1?

use the hammer and beavertail as a bottle opener?

3. Which of these standard-load handgun cartridge FMJ's cannot
be counted on to penetrate a present-day car door (window up),
if launched from a typical combat/service sidearm:
.38 Special, .45 ACP, 9mm Parabellum, .380 ACP and .40 S&W ?

all of the above, hmm, probably except the 9mm

4. What is the minimum number of licensed firearm owners required
as members, to legally set up a gun club?

15!

5. Name at least three (3) eye doctors within the BoG ranks.

secret!

6. What is possibly the OLDEST known 'gun-law' applied in the
Philippines?

is this the rule regarding carrying of shotguns in the old haciendas?

7. What type of wartime combat action did the IPSC's Jeff Cooper (USMC, Ret.) see?

Korean War

8. What are the legal restrictions on private ownership of ballistic vests?

i don't know this one

9. Name at least five (5) select-fire firearms presently
and commercially manufactured and marketed in the Philippines.

horge, locally manufactured or locally available?

10. Which foreign porn starlet got into some legal trouble in 1998,
at an indoor firing range, for target-shooting without any clothes on?
Bonus points for any photos... hehe.. J/K about the photos.

sino?
----

Bonus Question: What was the most widely-distributed cal. 11mm handgun
in the Philippines?

the nambu rifle?

Bonus bonus question: What legislation directly addresses airsoft guns?

yung kay biazon? di ko rin alam

horge
06-25-2006, 02:40
Nampucha... bilis mo Alvin, a... :)

Doc Alvin got two answers correctly!!

:) :) :)

3. Which of these standard-load handgun cartridge FMJ's cannot
be counted on to penetrate a present-day car door (window up),
if launched from a typical combat/service sidearm:
.38 Special, .45 ACP, 9mm Parabellum, .380 ACP and .40 S&W ?
Yep, none of those cartridges can be counted on
to penetrate a standard car door, even with window glass rolled up
and out of the way. The 9mm does indeed have the best track record
of getting through, and both the .380 and .38 Special might as well
be spitwads.

4. What is the minimum number of licensed firearm owners required
as members, to legally set up a gun club?
Fifteen indeed! (cite: PNP Circular No.7 - 22 Feb 1973)




Eight questions remain!

1. On what superior legal document does PNP-FED base its requirement
of Gun Club Membership certification, upon owners wishing to register
and license a sidearm of .40 cal and greater?
Alvin, you sort of winged the target, but no points... hehe

2. How do you open a bottle of San Miguel Pale Pilsen with a
mil-spec M1911 or M1911A1?
I will post a photographic how-to at the closing of this quiz,
unless someone gets it right prior. :)

5. Name at least three (3) eye doctors within the BoG ranks.
:)

6. What is possibly the OLDEST known 'gun-law' applied in the
Philippines?

7. What type of wartime combat action did the IPSC's Jeff Cooper (USMC, Ret.) see?
Type of combat action, ha? Not what conflict or theatre :)

8. What are the legal restrictions on private ownership of ballistic vests?

9. Name at least five (5) select-fire firearms presently
and commercially manufactured AND marketed in the Philippines.
You read it right: manufactured right here in the R of P.

10. Which foreign porn starlet got into some legal trouble in 1998,
at an indoor firing range, for target-shooting without any clothes on?
Bonus points for any photos... hehe.. J/K about the photos.
Sige na nga, I will post ONE sanitized photo, at the close
of this quiz, unless of course someone beats me to it. :)
----

Bonus Question: What was the most widely-distributed cal. 11mm handgun
in the Philippines?
Nambu no good. I was looking for a handgun :)

Bonus bonus question: What legislation directly addresses airsoft guns?

Keep trying :)

PMMA97
06-25-2006, 04:23
Originally posted by horge

Bonus bonus question: What legislation directly addresses airsoft guns?


PNP - Firearms
Letter of Instruction

No. 1264
July 31, 1982 ? :)

asian_glockster
06-25-2006, 04:34
2. How do you open a bottle of San Miguel Pale Pilsen with a
mil-spec M1911 or M1911A1?

Slightly eject the magazine, then use the lanyard loop at the mainspring housing to remove the bottle cap

3. Which of these standard-load handgun cartridge FMJ's cannot
be counted on to penetrate a present-day car door (window up),
if launched from a typical combat/service sidearm:
.38 Special, .45 ACP, 9mm Parabellum, .380 ACP and .40 S&W ?

Cal .45?


5. Name at least three (3) eye doctors within the BoG ranks.

EC lang po alam ko


7. What type of wartime combat action did the IPSC's Jeff Cooper (USMC, Ret.) see?

Korean war

8. What are the legal restrictions on private ownership of ballistic vests?

You have to register it first at FED?

nrmcolt
06-25-2006, 06:26
3. Lanyard loop at the MS, although I can open it with the slide remove from the frame.:supergrin:
5. Doc EC, Doc and Doc Tabako.
I'm eagerly waiting for the photos este the answer to number 10.


:beer:

Eye Cutter
06-25-2006, 06:29
Dok/Doc is not an Eye MD. I believe Pediatrician siya

asian_glockster
06-25-2006, 06:35
Bonus Question: What was the most widely-distributed cal. 11mm handgun
in the Philippines?

.45 ACP (occassionally called "11.43x23mm" by some silly Europeans)

nrmcolt
06-25-2006, 06:45
Originally posted by Eye Cutter
Dok/Doc is not an Eye MD. I believe Pediatrician siya
Ay! Mali!:supergrin:



:beer:

batangueno
06-25-2006, 06:57
2. How do you open a bottle of San Miguel Pale Pilsen with a
mil-spec M1911 or M1911A1?

Using the triggerguard.

5. Name at least three (3) eye doctors within the BoG ranks.

Eye Cutter, Doctabako, kamelot

horge
06-25-2006, 07:00
PMMA97 got the bonus bonus question!!


Bonus bonus question: What legislation directly addresses airsoft guns?
PRESIDENTIAL Letter of Instruction (PLOI) No. 1264 of 31 July 1982
prohibits realistic-looking gun replicas or toys. Some argue
that airsoft guns that have been tweaked to deliver muzzle velocities
exceeding 650 fps should furthermore fall under E.O. 712 (1981),
which addresses air guns, but that's silly ---the projectiles'
actual mass/weight ought to be considered as well.


---
Eight questions STILL remain!

1. On what superior legal document does PNP-FED base its requirement
of Gun Club Membership certification, upon owners wishing to register
and license a sidearm of .40 cal and greater?
Alvin winged the target, but no cigar.

2. How do you open a bottle of San Miguel Pale Pilsen with a
mil-spec M1911 or M1911A1?
Not via the lanyard loop ring, which is mil-spec only for the M1911.
I did specify the M1911A1 as well, for which there is no ring....
and the triggerguard ain't it either, Paul --it just doesn't work,
and may damage the firearm.
:)

5. Name at least three (3) eye doctors within the BoG ranks.
The eye docs among us are disqualified from answering this one :)

6. What is possibly the OLDEST known 'gun-law' applied in the Philippines?

7. What type of wartime combat action did the IPSC's Jeff Cooper (USMC, Ret.) see?
Type of combat action, ha?
James Dean ..... este, John Dean Cooper served during World War II
and the Korean War. The question is what real, live-combat experience
was involved for him.

8. What are the legal restrictions on private ownership of ballistic vests?
Well, of course, if there are restrictions, it would be PNP-FED
that one would have to deal with. Question is, what are the
restrictions, or to put it another way: what (sort of people)
is permissible, private ballistic vest ownership restricted to?

9. Name at least five (5) select-fire firearms presently
and commercially manufactured AND marketed in the Philippines.
Made right here in the R of P.

10. Which foreign porn starlet got into some legal trouble in 1998,
at an indoor firing range, for target-shooting without any clothes on?
Bonus points for any photos... hehe.. J/K about the photos.
I hope to post one sanitized photo at the close of this quiz.
If someone guesses right, I will instead post TWO photos.
The girl really is very pretty, too. :)
----

Bonus Question: What was the most widely-distributed cal. 11mm handgun
in the Philippines?
Interesting approach, asian_g, but I really mean "11 mm", with
no fractions or decimal points involved in the cartridge designation.
There was definite method to my use of the past-tense 'was' in the
question. :)

Keep trying, fellow BoG dwellers!!
:supergrin:

Eye Cutter
06-25-2006, 07:41
the .45 acp is 11mm so the answer to horge's question is the 1911 and 1911A1 pistols as being the most widely distributed pistol chambering an 11mm cartridge.

kasi the PNP and AFP followed suit the US Armed Forces replacing the .45 cal 1911A1 with the M3 pistol in 9mm Nato as their sidearms, mga hunghang! di ba nila alam that FPJ carried a single stack colt, the only "real" pistol for a lot of pinoys!

tama ba, tama ba??? do i get a gold star or something??? :supergrin:

horge
06-25-2006, 07:45
Naunahan ka ni asian_glockster, Doc. :)
.45 ACP (occassionally called "11.43x23mm" by some silly Europeans)

But that's not the 11mm I'm talking about. I really did mean an
"11 mm" cartridge, known as such, without decimal fractions appended.
I also indicated that the handguun WAS the most widely-distributed.
Past-tense, hehehe!

The 1911 IS the most widely distributed magazine-pistol today,
so no cigar, nor a gold star, bosing EC.






***Ang hirap. My keyboard is malf'ing. I have to keep re-checking if the "a" key has kicked in each time I've used it.

mc_oliver
06-25-2006, 07:48
Originally posted by horge
10. Which foreign porn starlet got into some legal trouble in 1998,
at an indoor firing range, for target-shooting without any clothes on?
Bonus points for any photos... hehe.. J/K about the photos.

-horge
I WANT THE ANSWER NOW!!! :beer: :supergrin: :beer:

horge
06-25-2006, 07:54
I'm sure you do, Oliver.

Hey, BoGs ...is kamelot an eye doctor?
If he is, I didn't know, and Paul/batangueño gets credit...
Please verify ASAP!!!

nrmcolt
06-25-2006, 08:19
Originally posted by mc_oliver
I WANT THE ANSWER NOW!!! :beer: :supergrin: :beer:
:laughabove:

Me too :supergrin:



:beer:

isuzu
06-25-2006, 11:21
Well, there were Americans in the 80's who used their 1911s to break the claws of the crabs we ate.:) They loved our crabs that they devoured a big basket of them.

As for opening beer bottles, I used the door latch of my isuzu pick up.;)

ppts799
06-25-2006, 19:59
uhhh ... eyecutter, doctabako and iMD

tama ba? :)

horge
06-25-2006, 20:41
:)
batangueno got #5 first!
and Pio also answered correctly!

5. Name at least three (3) eye doctors within the BoG ranks.
Paul's "EyeCutter, doctabako and kamelot" is correct!
Pio's "Eye Cutter, doctabako and iMD" also qualifies! :)

....and you know what? Upon retrospection,
Alvin did answer question #1 correctly!
Sorry, Alvin!! My eyes are shorting out..
Nakakabulag kasi ng answer to # 10, e....hehe.

1. On what superior legal document does PNP-FED base its requirement
of Gun Club Membership certification, upon owners wishing to register
and license a sidearm of .40 cal and greater?
The old Marcos-era G.O.7 limited civilian-owned handguns to
a caliber of .38 (or 9mm) maximum. Then the PPSA came along, and
in 1999, then-President Estrada allowed higher caliber handguns for
competition use, via Executive Order No. 164 of 1999. Now, one cannot
claim to be 'competing' (or at least training for competition) if one
is not a member of a gun club. Hence, for licensing/registration of
handguns with caliber greater thn .38/9mm, FED requires certification
of gun club membership. This practice unfortunately ignores a more
recent E.O. (again from Estrada) that removes almost all restrictions
on caliber for private ownership. If only this later E.O. (No. 194 of 2000)
was observed...


--------------------

So, six questions na la'ang (and the bonus question, 'course.

2. How do you open a bottle of San Miguel Pale Pilsen with a
mil-spec M1911 or M1911A1?
Not via the lanyard loop ring, which is mil-spec only for the M1911.
Not the grip-safety and hammer: can't be done and may damage the gun
Triggerguard ain't it either: it doesn't work and can ding the frame too.

6. What is possibly the OLDEST known 'gun-law' applied in the Philippines?

7. What type of wartime combat action did the IPSC's Jeff Cooper (USMC, Ret.) see?
Type of combat action, ha?
James Dean ..... este, John Dean Cooper served during World War II
and the Korean War. The question is, what first-person, live-combat
action did he experience? Just one example will do.

8. What are the legal restrictions on private ownership of ballistic vests?
Of course, if there are restrictions, it would be PNP-FED
that one would have to deal with. Question is, what are the
restrictions, or put another way: what (sort of people)
is permissible, private ballistic vest ownership restricted to?

9. Name at least five (5) select-fire firearms presently
and commercially manufactured AND marketed in the Philippines.

10. Which foreign porn starlet got into some legal trouble in 1998,
at an indoor firing range, for target-shooting without any clothes on?
Bonus points for any photos... hehe.. J/K about the photos.
I hope to post one sanitized photo at the close of this quiz.
If someone guesses right, I will instead post TWO photos.
----

Bonus Question: What was the most widely-distributed cal. 11mm handgun
in the Philippines?
I really mean "11 mm", with no fractions or decimal points involved
in the cartridge designation. There was definite method to my use of
the past-tense 'was' in the question.

mikey177
06-25-2006, 23:23
2. How do you open a bottle of San Miguel Pale Pilsen with a
mil-spec M1911 or M1911A1?

Ummm, place the bottle of SMB on a flat surface with a safe backstop, step back five paces, draw your 1911, align pistol sights with top of SMB bottle, and squeeze trigger :drunk:

9. Name at least five (5) select-fire firearms presently
and commercially manufactured AND marketed in the Philippines.

I only know one, the Floro MK9/MP9 (http://www.floro-intl.com/mk9.html). Who know the other four?

akula
06-26-2006, 05:29
2. How do you open a bottle of San Miguel Pale Pilsen with a
mil-spec M1911 or M1911A1?
Disengage the barrel bushing partially, and while it is still on the slide, use the "fork" on the cap of the bottle.

Bonus Question: What was the most widely-distributed cal. 11mm handgun
in the Philippines?
Was it the .45 Long Colt revolver

horge
06-26-2006, 06:27
Hi Mikey,
Yes, the Floro MP9 and Floro MK9 individually, fit the bill.
That's two right there, but you need five at least, to score on the question.
Also, I asked about opening the bottle with the gun, not with
the bullet it fires... haaaah, pedantics, semantics and all that.
;)


Akula,
Slightly-unistalled barrel bushing? Nope. That won't work ;)
As for the other question, it wasn't the .45 Long Colt revolver.
While we're at it, none of the .45 Schofield revo's either.
Those cartridges were never really known as "11 mm".

Answers on Wednesday, I guess.
It's a pity though, I was hoping someone would give me a
reason to post pics (plural) in support of question #10.

Allegra
06-26-2006, 07:09
Sa Pacific, WW2

Jeff Cooper shot a japanese soldeir w/ a rifle, ambush yata if I remember right, as told by his daughter sa book nya

royal glockster
06-26-2006, 08:35
I'll take my chances on question no. 9.

1. MK9 - Floro Enterprises
2. Elisco M16 - Elisco Tool Corp.
3. X9 - Shooters Arms Manufaturing, Inc.
4. KZ9 - Damamcor
5. MAC10/MAC11 - by local Danao gunsmiths :supergrin:

Allegra
06-26-2006, 09:34
Originally posted by Allegra
Sa Pacific, WW2

Jeff Cooper shot a japanese soldeir w/ a rifle, ambush yata if I remember right, as told by his daughter sa book nya


was he also in korea? then he musat have shot a korean soldier w/ a rifle too

rex_valerian
06-26-2006, 17:54
Question number 2:

Fix the SMB bottle in a firm position suchas a vise grip.

Hole the 1911 by the barrel.

Swing really hard.

Works well on skulls too! :supergrin:

horge
06-26-2006, 18:38
You guys are insane :supergrin:
I have to go to work, but I'll post add'l comments later today.

horge
06-26-2006, 21:04
Hi royal glockster :)
The SAM X9 is semiauto only
(The X9 only LOOKS like an automatic cheesebox).
DAMANCOR has been defunct for quite some time now.
AFAIK, Elisco hasn't been making select fire anything for awhile.

The 5 select-fires have to be currently marketed and manufactured here.


Hey, Allegra :)
Nice try ...hehe.



h.

s0nny_g17
06-26-2006, 23:16
use the guiderod to open the bottle

pull the slide way back then lock it using the slidestop (open bolt position ba tawag dun?) then lock the mouth of the bottle between the barrel and guiderod

horge
06-27-2006, 01:18
Hi, sonny_g17 :)

You seem to be assuming an FLGR is present?
Remember, I specified a mil-spec M1911 or M1911A1.
When you lock back the slide on either of those badboys,
there is no "guide rod" exposed.

:)
horge

darth board
06-27-2006, 04:23
how about using the ejection port to open the bottle?

Eye Cutter
06-27-2006, 05:06
me! me! me! use the hammer and beavertail tang as the bottle opener?

:supergrin:

Eye Cutter
06-27-2006, 05:19
si jenna jameson ba???

http://www.erotica-la.com/gallery/6FF601EC-C544-4894-806A24E6A5BF0D84-eng.medium.jpg

http://www.erotica-la.com/gallery/4574515C-9AA0-C04E-8C566D634E4A0890-eng.medium.jpg

horge
06-27-2006, 05:40
darth, no --you risk nicking the port lips, and with the lowered/flared
port of the M1911A1, I don't even think it can be done.
:)

Alvin, no --the mil-specs don't have a 'beavertail', hehe... but
assuming you just mean the grip-safety tang, it's tiny, and slopes
the wrong way to grab a bottlecap. The gap between the uncocked
hammer and the grip-safety tang is too great, so I assume you're
thinking about cocking the hammer first. If so, the gap is now too
small, and you even if it wasn't ---working it to open a bottle
puts the hammer hooks and sear at risk.
:)


Not Jenna Jameson.
Just as blonde, just as short, but slimmer and prettier.


h.

Allegra
06-27-2006, 06:47
Using the front muzzle end of the slide, put the edge between your thumb and the bottle cap.Then use the whole gun as a lever.
Havent tried it , but if I can do it w/ an el cheapo lighter , I probably can do it w/ the slide

blonde slim,short, pretty -si paris hilton!! saw a video, kaso parang hindi baril yung pinuputok e

horge
06-27-2006, 08:26
Hi Allegra,
Well, I suppose you could succeed that way... though it requires
considerable thumb-strength to execute. What I have in mind
requires only the pistol itself to 'grab' the bottlecap, with
very little strength involved in the application.
:)

...and no, it was not Paris Hilton, hehehe :)

mc_oliver
06-27-2006, 12:15
I think you can use the stock magwell opening of a 1911 to open bottle caps.

If I got that right, can you now post pics for #10? :supergrin: :supergrin:

jerrytrini
06-27-2006, 14:24
Use the barrel bushing.

horge
06-27-2006, 16:18
Oliver, no--- magwell's too wide

Jerry, no--- can't easily (if at all) be done with the
barrel bushing, installed, semi-uninstalled or uninstalled.

Here's a clue. You don't have to UNINSTALL ANYTHING from the pistol. (well, you DO have to make sure there are no live cartridges inside).

All answers spilled tonight. (7:00 pm Manila Time).
If someone gives just two more correct answers,
I'll post more than just one pic to question #10, mmm'kay?
;)

Eye Cutter
06-27-2006, 16:56
namputsa naman horge! :supergrin: di mo napansin, fixated na kaming lahat sa question about the 1911 as a bottle opener and the porn star???

bitin na bitin na kami!!!:clown:

jerrytrini
06-27-2006, 17:57
Rack the slide and use the front edge/lip of the frame.

akula
06-27-2006, 17:58
Originally posted by horge
Here's a clue. You don't have to UNINSTALL ANYTHING from the pistol. (well, you DO have to make sure there are no live cartridges inside).

Last Guess...
Lock the slide. Engage the bottle cap between the barrel and recoil plug.

Eye Cutter
06-27-2006, 18:31
lock the slide back, engage the bottle cap between the grip safety tang and slide that overhangs?

hay! sirit na!

now back to LA Erotica pics!

http://www.erotica-la.com/gallery/44DD492D-942D-8911-EAF68A5C04FF194B-eng.medium.jpg

http://www.erotica-la.com/gallery/43CD92CD-CDC3-562A-8757C57CA07C2630-eng.medium.jpg

http://www.erotica-la.com/gallery/43E0CC6E-BE10-AF84-EFD354C1EDAFEF71-eng.medium.jpg

http://www.erotica-la.com/gallery/43E6CD3C-E23B-3E9C-D3DDA276AA556F20-eng.medium.jpg

http://www.erotica-la.com/gallery/438329AA-0340-12A4-8AB95FFF5732CFE7-eng.medium.jpg

I was able to attend the LA Erotica convention at the LA Convention Center in 2000! Something for SoCal residents to experience at least once! hahaha! Enjoy! Ooops! Sorry for the thread hijack, horge!

vega
06-27-2006, 22:23
2) With no ammo in FA, put rear sight against the cap with the FA pointing upward. Use the webbing of the other hand as fulcrum with the hammer resting on it.

Bonus: 1873 French revolver called Chamelot Delvigne or the 44S&W revolver.

Now give us NO. 10

horge
06-28-2006, 05:43
Okay, time's up.
Here's a recap of the questions, with the correct answers this time.
Hope you had some fun with it


1. What is the legally-current basis for FED's requirement
of Gun Club Membership certification, of owners wishing to
register and license a sidearm of .40 cal and greater?
EyeCutter got enough of this one correctly!
The old Marcos-era G.O.7 limited civilian-owned handguns to
a caliber of .38 (or 9mm) maximum. Then the PPSA came along, and
in 1999, then-President Estrada allowed higher caliber handguns
for competition use, via Executive Order No. 164 of 1999. Now,
one cannot claim to be 'competing' (or at least training for
competition) if one is not a member of a gun club. Hence, for
licensing/registration of handguns with caliber greater than
.38/9mm, FED requires certification of gun club membership.
This practice unfortunately ignores a more recent E.O. (again
from Estrada) that removes almost all restrictions on caliber
for private ownership. If only this later E.O. (No. 194 of 2000)
was observed as it should be...


2. How do you open a bottle of San Miguel Pale Pilsen with
an M1911 or M1911A1?
jerrytrini seems to get the gist of this one.
Use 1911's with STEEL frames only!! Like I said, 'mil-spec'!
Aluminium frames can and will get gouged by the bottlecap:

Take out the magazine and clear the chamber.
Make sure the chamber is empty.
Make sure again.
Lock back the slide, and rest the barrel on top of the bottlecap,
while hooking the frame's 'dustcover' under the bottlecap's lip,
then leverage the bottlecap off as you would with an ordinary
bottle opener:
http://i5.tinypic.com/1608oxv.jpg

Hoist up, and enjoy the best beer on the bloody planet:
http://i4.tinypic.com/1608p5y.jpg


3. Which of these standard-load cartridge FMJ's can't be counted on
to penetrate a present-day car door (window up), if launched from a
typical combat/service sidearm:
.38 Special, .45 ACP, 9mm Parabellum, .380 ACP and .40 S&W ?
EyeCutter got this one right, too!
....NONE of those cartridges can be counted on
to penetrate a standard car door, even with window glass rolled up
and out of the way. The 9mm does indeed have the best track record
of getting through, and both the .380 and .38 Special might as well
be spitwads.



4. What is the minimum number of licensed firearm owners, as members,
needed to legally set up a gun club?
EyeCutter got this one!
Fifteen (15), citing PNP Circular No.7 - 22 Feb 1973)


5. Name at least three (3) eye doctors within the BoG ranks.

batangueno got this one first!
"EyeCutter, doctabako and kamelot" counts! :)

ppts799 got this one too!
"Eye Cutter, doctabako and iMD" qualifies. :)


6. What is possibly the OLDEST known 'gun-law' applied to the Philippines?
According to Ulep (1997), Spain's 19th century Codigo Penal, Articulo 408:

"El acto que disparar un ama de fuego contra qualqiera persona
sera castigado con la pena de prision correccional en sus grados
minimo y medio, si no hubieren concurrido en el hecho todas las
circumstancias necesarrias para constituir frustrado o tentativa
de parricido, asesinato, homicido o qualqier otro delito a que
esta senalada una pena superior por alguno de los articulos de
este Codigo.'

However...
It is known that we 'indios' were generally prohibited from owning weapons
from the 1590's up to the close of the 1800's, but any bandos mandating
such, issued by Spanish Governors General and/or the Ayuntamiento, are
outside my ken. Blair and Robertson (1904) do not reproduce any. I have
found none whatsoever in the Newberry Library's copies of manuscripts from
the Archivo General de Indias in Sevilla.

Simon Anda y Salazar's emergency decrees banning the possession of weapons
and gunpowder in 1762 probably don't count: they were directed at the Chinese
who were secretly siding with the British invasion force.


7. What actual wartime combat action did the IPSC's Jeff Cooper (USMC, Ret.) see?
In World War II, young 2Lt John Dean Cooper was assigned
to the Marine detachment on board the USS Pennsylvania (BB38), which
had earlier survived the attack on Pearl Harbor. After repairs,
the ship proceeded to fill out an impressive record of successful
shore bombardments, from 1942 to 1944. The USS Pennsylvania saw
intense action at Leyte (vs. the Japanese Imperial Fleet) and at
Lingayen, as part of the "Central Philippine Attack Force" under
Vice Adm. Thomas Kincaid, from October 1944 to February 1945. Cooper
may be referring to the Battle of Leyte Gulf, in a rare comment on
his own wartime experiences:

"On one occasion my detachment was assigned to a mission which,
according to our skipper, was almost certain to get us all killed.
I remember that I was dismayed, but not disheartened. As I recall,
we felt neither fear nor idealistic patriotism. Nobody talked about
either safety or democracy. We felt only a spirited determination
to handle a job in such a way as to wreak maximum destruction upon
the enemy as long as we could."

In August, the USS Pennsylvania was disabled by an enemy torpedo
while at anchor in Okinawa. She limped back to the US for repairs.
The war was almost over, and John Cooper was by then a Captain.

Little is known about Cooper's combat experience in Korea, save
that he was attached to the 'clandestine services', which can mean
anything from number-crunching to (more likely) covert field ops.

Post-Korea, Cooper and fellow Marine officer Howland Taft prepared
an "Advanced Military Combat Pistol Course", based on the FBI PPC
observed at Quantico. In 1955, Cooper resigned from the USMC a
Lt. Colonel, and had a fortunate meeting with Bob Petersen (of
Petersen Publishing). Cooper wrote prolifically for Peteresen's
publication "Guns & Ammo", making his name familiar to readers as
an advocate of the Weaver stance (as systematized by John Plahn).
In 1976, Cooper helped found the IPSC, and in 1977 he set up the
'Gunsite' school in Arizona.

To Col. Jeff Cooper (USMC, Ret.), and all the brave men and women
who served during WWII against Japanese aggression, my heartfelt
thanks!


8. what are the legal restrictions on private ownership of ballistic vests?
By Headquarters, Philippine Constabulary Circular No.1 of April 27,1981,
which puts into practice the mandates of a Ministry of National Defense
Memorandum dated November 11, 1980... private individuals wishing to
possess a ballistic vest must have proof of annual personal income
exceeding PhP 50,000.00 for the prior three years, and possess evidence
of need for a ballistic vest,to the satisfaction of Chief, PNP CSG-FED.


9. Name at least five (5) select-fire firearms presently and commercially
manufactured and marketed in the Philippines.
Floro MK9 http://www.floro-intl.com/mk9.html
Floro MP9 http://www.floro-intl.com/mk9.html
FERFRANS SOAR http://www.ferfrans.net/soar.htm
FERFRANS PDW http://www.ferfrans.net/pdw.htm
Rock Island Armory M14 http://www.twinpines.com.ph/cbrands.html
There are others, but I'm no longer sure of their currency.

Notes:
*The Ferfrans SOAR and PDW are described by US Defense reviewers
as 'select-fire', as does a writeup on a number of US SWAT purchases
(of the SOAR), but the Ferfrans spec implies full-auto only:
Their proprietary cyclic rate reducer allows trigger fingering to
accomplish either bursts or rips at will.

*The SAM X9 is semiauto only.
*The SAM SAS12 is a semiauto shotgun in M4 silhouette.
*The Rock Island Armory AK-47 is a rebranded Chinese import.
*Elisco hasn't put out anything in awhile.
*DAMANCOR closed down some years back.



10. Which foreign porn starlet got into some trouble in 1998, at an indoor firing range,
for target-shooting without any clothes on? Bonus points for any photos...hehe..J/K.[b]

Answer at http://bandofglockers.50webs.com/10.html




[b]Bonus Question: What was the most widely-distributed cal. 11mm handgun in the Philippines?
The Lefaucheaux 11mm pinfire-cartridge revolver, built in Spain
(Ebarra, Oviedo, etc.) under Belgian license. These were the typical
sidearms issued to Spanish colonial officers in the mid-1800's.
Towards the end of that century, Spanish officers in Cuba had
obtained more up-to-date S&W revolvers, while officers in the
Philippines were mostly not as fortunate.

Bonus bonus question: What legislation directly addresses airsoft guns?
PMMA97 got this one right!
PRESIDENTIAL Letter of Instruction (PLOI) No. 1264 of 31 July 1982
prohibits realistic-looking gun replicas or toys. Some argue
that airsoft guns that have been tweaked to deliver muzzle
velocities exceeding 650 fps should furthermore fall under
E.O. 712 (1981), which addresses air guns, but that's silly.
The projectiles' mass ought to be considered as well.



I hope you had some fun with this, and if you did,
wish me luck for tomorrow. I need to win an approval
in the morning. And...

if anyone knows of any corrections to the above answers,
just post 'em! :)

paltiq
06-28-2006, 06:09
sa wakas nakita ko rin ang sagot sa #10!!! :supergrin: :rollsmiley: :laughabove: :beer: :clown: :cool: :) ;)

regarding #9: hindi po bat isang integrator lamang ang Perfrans? (nag-bebenta ng Bushmaster rifles with all the bells & whistles already installed) like ARMS rails,etc. at imi-na-market nila ito sa SAF with their PERFRANS name engrave on it?


at yung M14 of Rock-Island of Twin Pines....hindi po bat Chinese made m14 ang mga ito at tinatakan lamang?

please enlighten us Sir Horge. tnx po sa #10 ulit

horge
06-28-2006, 06:19
Hi, paltiq :)

Ferfrans buys COTS (commercial off the shelf) parts and
slaps them together, indeed: just like 'Springfield Armory', and
a bunch of other 'manfacturers'. Ferfrans does at least include
a proprietary component of proven value. Twin Pines makes their M14. It is the AK47 that they import whole, from China.

Wish me luck for tomorrow's bunuan.

h.

mikol
06-28-2006, 06:35
Originally posted by horge
Hi, paltiq :)

Ferfrans buys COTS (commercial off the shelf) parts and
slaps them together, indeed: just like 'Springfield Armory', and
a bunch of other 'manfacturers'. Ferfrans does at least include
a proprietary component of proven value. Twin Pines makes their M14. It is the AK47 that they import whole, from China.

Wish me luck for tomorrow's bunuan.

h.

GOOD LUCK HORGE!! Break a leg kapatid!:)

jerrytrini
06-28-2006, 08:21
I knew it. I got it right.

Pepe308
06-28-2006, 20:31
Wala po bang frontal whole body photo? :shower:

jerrytrini
06-28-2006, 21:36
Sworn personnel are prohibited to work off duty or on duty at LA Erotica....

We are not even allowed to work for Hugh Hefner's Playboy Mansion.

isuzu
06-28-2006, 21:45
Horge,

Do you have an idea who makes Twin Pines' AKs? Is it Norinco? No wonder the Bacolod Branch had a bunch of AK mags for sale when I visited the Philippines last May.

ppts799
06-28-2006, 23:26
horge! you're holding back on us! :clown:

the pics are named "range01" and "range03", so there MUST be a "range02". i'm sure we wouldn't mind seeing range04, 05, 06, 07 either. :rollsmiley:

come on . . . don't be shy:supergrin:

horge
06-29-2006, 00:43
Thanks, mikol!! :)
Things worked out extremely well.
I actually felt a little sorry for the opposite party,
they just caved so quickly. To paraphrase one of their sayings...
"the mighty dragon is no match for the local askal".

Pepe308
Yes, meron. The first photo I provided was cropped from an
extremely-compromising full frontal.

isuzu,
Twin Pines claims it ISN'T a Norinco. It is a Chinese import, though.
(I'd thought their M14 was an import too, but I was corrected.)

Pio,
Nice going :)
Thanks for pointing out the 'easter egg' I'd left for everyone.
Just add the filename "Range02.jpg" (upper/lower case matters) after
"http://bandofglockers.50webs.com/".

I only uploaded three pics. Almost all of the other photos
from the same series are too difficult to sanitize.




h.

Eye Cutter
06-29-2006, 17:51
and to complete the list of eyeMD's in this forum...

Eye Cutter, Doctabako, Kamelot, The Tactician, iMD

... meron pa ba ako nakalimutan?

Pepe308
06-30-2006, 20:18
[i]Originally posted by horge [/i

Pepe308
Yes, meron. The first photo I provided was cropped from an
extremely-compromising full frontal. [/B]

Pls... pls... pls... ! :notworthy::bunny: :whip: :devilish:

isuzu
06-30-2006, 21:53
Horge,

These could be two possible sources of Twin Pines' M14. Again, this is just my guess.

Norinco also makes their own version of the M14 www.marstar.com.

Twin Pines used to market Imbel products and if memory serves me well, they sold Imbel copies of FAL and M14s.

horge
07-01-2006, 01:06
isuzu,

All I have to go on is what the folks at Twin Pines told me.
Their RIA M14 is made here in the Philippines by Twin Pines.
(imported components are a distinct probability), while
their RIA AK47 is imported from China.

:)