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Stickman
06-30-2006, 21:29
I received my Daniel Defense 7.0 LITE rail today.

Initial observations were that it was packaged different than the other DD rails that I have bought in the past. Instead of the plastic shell, it is now in a white cardboard box, labeled on each end, with a sticker across the top. I like the idea of a box, mainly because I hate paying for uberexpensive packaging that I know I paid extra for as the consumer. Not that DD did expensive packaging before, but a few other companies come to mind.

Upon slicing the seal, and opening the box, I saw the rail was packed in bubble wrap inside. This is a nice idea, mainly because I've ended up with boxes that looked like UPS hired angry drunken monkeys to deliver them. Let face it, this isn't a cheap rail, it needs to be safe from UPS. Inside was the rail, lightly coated with what looked to be oil. There were also rail covers, which is nice to see as well. The rail covers in mine were ladder covers, which is what I'm running on most of my equipment. Under all of that were a nicely printed up set of instructions that I promptly left in the box. I have previously installed the DD RIS II, and found it to be the easiest rail I've ever worked with. I assumed this would be the same basic installation.


Moving along.....

Along with the rail, the barrel nut, bolt plate, and screws were in another bag. These also had a light coating of oil on them. None of the rail, or additional parts had any wear, marring, purple hue, defective areas, or any of the other complaints that are often brought up about rails. In fairness to DD, their standard rails don't seem to get complaints anyway aside from the occasional sobs when a new guy sees the weld marks. To those people, I can say that thankfully the weld marks are still present, which reassures me there won't be any issues down the road. Color me cranky, but I've had too many things fail in real world use, and I swear that Murphy is perched on my shoulder at times.

Next came the installation, which thankfully was as simple as the DD RIS II. Off came the FH and FSB. Off came the old assembly. On went the plate, with the barrel nut over it. The most enjoyable thing of all is NOT HAVING TO ALIGN ANYTHING WITH THE GAS TUBE! The plate rotates until locked into position with the screws. I tightened down the barrel nut, then dropped the rail into position. To me, the easiest way to align the rail to the receiver, and to make it perfect, is to tighten a carry handle on each side covering the receiver and rail. This locks everything up, and makes it easy to tighten the screws. Speaking of screws, 4 go in from the rear, while the other two go in from the front. Tighten them the same way you do lugnuts, and get them snug. Once they were each snug, I continued tightening them opposite each other until they were all nice and tight.


The end result is a rail that continues off the upper, without leaving a gap. I like the idea of a one piece rail (I'm sure the 2 piece rails are plenty strong, but I'm a paranoid type of guy). This rail is within 1/2 ounce of the older DD 7.0, and that includes the new steel barrel nut. It locks up tight, and there is zero play, which is what you woudl expect from any top end rail company.

Lastly, I'll give my thoughts on the cosmetics, as I know it is important to some people. The rail is flawless. The color is nice and deep. The machining is cleaner than my other DD rails (not that I have any complaints on my old ones). The laser engraving looks a little different, which gives the rail a cleaner look to my eyes. Its a smaller gray font, but still easy to read in case you are one of those people that likes to read their rails.



I'll get up some more (and better) pictures, and answer any questions I can.


http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/1411/ddlitepirate5za.jpg

switch625
07-01-2006, 18:25
Nice review Stick.

justcor
07-01-2006, 22:30
Stick PM sent. :supergrin:

walangkatapat
07-01-2006, 23:51
Where did you get that Jolly Roger lower at?

MrMurphy
07-02-2006, 01:50
Note about UPS. Drunken Monkeys they are not, but if it's light/and-or small enough to be thrown, it will be. Every time. Regardless of "Fragile" markings or not. I worked for Airborne Express as a driver for a few months and it was the same way.

Stickman
07-02-2006, 12:16
I don't think UPS employs monkeys, but I think its possible that they are smuggled in by shift supervisors and plied with alochol to work fast and cheap. :supergrin:

Stickman
07-02-2006, 12:19
Here are a few more pictures.

justcor- Working on an answer for you.

walangkatapat- Tom Sawyer Manufacturing (Steve is a great guy.)

switch625- Thankyou sir.

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/8525/ddlitepirate52ax.jpg


http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/1210/ddlitepirate46yy.jpg


http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/1851/ddlitepirate31dg.jpg

switch625
07-02-2006, 12:24
Looks very nice and solid. I would run Daniel D rails but they're just out of this couch commandos price range. :supergrin:

dbrowne1
07-02-2006, 14:46
Stick-

This rail is free floating, I'm assuming, since you had to remove the FSB to install?

RMTactical
07-02-2006, 14:51
I like the DD rails. I think I prefer the Larue rails just a bit more though. I'm sure they are equally rugged and all but the finish and overall look of the LaRue rails seems better. I don't doubt the quality of the DD stuff though.

Stickman
07-02-2006, 16:13
Larue rails to this is apples and oranges. The DD rails that came out first would probably be a better comparison with Larues products.

I'm not sure the last time you held a Larue in one hand, and a Daniel Defense rail in the other. While Larue makes a quality product, I'll stick with DD. I can't say as I'm sure what you mean about the finish, as I've never seen any problems with DD. Larue rails have popped up a few times with issues over on ARF, though most of them were simply cosmetic complaints. However, like I said, Larue makes a good product. I tend to like their mounts better than their rails, but thats just me. If I was issued Larue I wouldn't have any complaints.


dbrowne1- Yes, all Daniel Defense rails are free floating.

DreamWeaver88
07-02-2006, 17:06
Originally posted by MrMurphy
Note about UPS. Drunken Monkeys they are not, but if it's light/and-or small enough to be thrown, it will be. Every time. Regardless of "Fragile" markings or not. I worked for Airborne Express as a driver for a few months and it was the same way.

I know someone that used to work for UPS. She told me the people that sort packages were nicknamed "throwers".

I think that right there explains a lot.

DW

RMTactical
07-02-2006, 18:42
Originally posted by Stickman
Larue rails to this is apples and oranges. The DD rails that came out first would probably be a better comparison with Larues products.

I'm not sure the last time you held a Larue in one hand, and a Daniel Defense rail in the other. While Larue makes a quality product, I'll stick with DD. I can't say as I'm sure what you mean about the finish, as I've never seen any problems with DD. Larue rails have popped up a few times with issues over on ARF, though most of them were simply cosmetic complaints. However, like I said, Larue makes a good product. I tend to like their mounts better than their rails, but thats just me. If I was issued Larue I wouldn't have any complaints.

Yes, I was comparing the other DD rails with the LaRue rails.

I wasn't commenting on the quality of your specific rail, although I am sure that it's a good quality like I believe all DD rails are.

I was mainly commenting on the overall finish. I noticed that your rail had it as well (granted, yours didn't look all that bad compared to some I have seen). They seem to be a little sloppy on a few spots. Specifically right here as demonstrated on this drawing.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y18/mwirig79/M4Rail70_1marked.jpg

I don't know why they make that spot look so sloppy, it really makes me wonder, mostly subconcisously I'd bet...

Functionality-wise, I don't think there is an issue with DD or LaRue. But if it's MY money, I'd go with a LaRue from what I have seen.

I am just making an observation from what I have seen. It's ticky tack stuff...

I really don't have any bone to pick with DD but that little stuff can irk me...

dport
07-02-2006, 18:53
Great pics as always Stickman.

GregG17
07-03-2006, 10:04
Stickman when is the DD rail coming to the market?

PinkoCommie
07-03-2006, 10:17
Originally posted by GregG17
Stickman when is the DD rail coming to the market?

I haven't called to check, but from DD's website it appears that it is in stock and ready to ship:
http://www.danieldefense.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=60

--PinkoCommie

RainierArms
07-03-2006, 11:35
Or you can wait a week and get it for a few dollars less from a dealer. :)

Stickman
07-04-2006, 18:06
Originally posted by GregG17
Stickman when is the DD rail coming to the market?

Its hitting dealers now, so you should be able to make your order in the next couple days, or preorder. Like Teknic said, dealers are usually cheaper than the manufacturer, and since Teknic sells DD gear, he should know. :supergrin:

Stickman
07-04-2006, 18:10
Originally posted by GoreLicks

I was mainly commenting on the overall finish. I noticed that your rail had it as well (granted, yours didn't look all that bad compared to some I have seen). They seem to be a little sloppy on a few spots. Specifically right here as demonstrated on this drawing.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y18/mwirig79/M4Rail70_1marked.jpg

I don't know why they make that spot look so sloppy, it really makes me wonder, mostly subconcisously I'd bet...



Your picture isn't showing up. If you are talking about the weld mark, thats there for a reason. In the world of rails, you can have your rail welded, or glued.

I'll stick with welds, even if they don't look quite as pretty. :)

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