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BManoftheyear
08-13-2006, 22:18
I'd like to know how it really is from people who have been there and are still there now.My friend joined the marines and he said his recruiter lied alot to him on how everything was gonna be.I don't want marines i want NAVY!So please tell me how things really are in the navy I'd really appreciate it.
I have a wife and a 2 year old daughter, i am only 21 and i figured why pass up a good oppurtunity to go see places and people i'd never be able to see before and to create a good life for my family thank you

hankhan
08-13-2006, 22:33
You're likely to be away from home for long periods of time - think about how that will impact your wife and daughter. Other than that, it's a good opportunity for you and a chance to serve your country.

BManoftheyear
08-13-2006, 23:28
i know i'll be away for a long time but is there any way i can communicate with my family while onboard?i mean besides letters?we have a pc i dont know if we can do e-mail or not.Being away from my family is no big deal i just want to be able to provide a good life for them.
how is the pay? i am going tomorrow to talk to a recruiter and get some info from them on what it all has to offer.
where have all of you been and when you go somewhere how long do you normally stay there

DHansen
08-14-2006, 17:14
Originally posted by BManoftheyear
i know i'll be away for a long time but is there any way i can communicate with my family while onboard?i mean besides letters?we have a pc i dont know if we can do e-mail or not.Being away from my family is no big deal i just want to be able to provide a good life for them.
how is the pay? i am going tomorrow to talk to a recruiter and get some info from them on what it all has to offer.
where have all of you been and when you go somewhere how long do you normally stay there

Yes,if you ship has Internet connectivity (normally it will), you will be able to communicate with your family while on board ship using e-mail. The ship is not ALWAYS out to sea however - when it's not, you can go home at the end of the day (usually).

As far as the pay - you're not going to get rich by enlisting. I make enough right now for my wife and I to live comfortably. We own a home, have a car payment, and she goes to school full time. With a wife and kid, starting out may be a bit tight. I would recommend you get into base housing until you make a bit more.

Regarding your earlier post of "how's it going to be", that's a bit of a broad subject. No one will be able to sit down and tell you everything you have to deal with, and what you will experience. It depends seriously on what ratings you qualify for and which one you end up entering. There's a saying in the Navy, "choose your rate, choose your fate". It can be very true. What were you thinking of doing?

BManoftheyear
08-14-2006, 17:34
well the thing is i will be wherever i am stationed at and my wife will be in ohio.they said there is a housing assistance program and i should receive about $900 a month and that would pay for the housing for my wife and child.Me living on base isn't a problem and i only have to pay her car payment and insurance so everything wil be fine. i was wondering does the housing assistance go on your paycheck? i just didn't understand how you get the money for that.
I am in a real tight squeeze of moving from arizona to ohio so the extra money would really help out alot.I am going to be moving next week i've just got some stuff to sell and if i sell what i need to i'll have the money i need to pay for gas and insuarance on the car to get us back to our destination.
I was thinking of doing the gun man the recruiter said that it is maintenance on the weapons on the ship and some gunsmithing on the other sailors weapons.That is sometihng that i would want to do so i am going to go back tomorrow and take my real test and see about doing my physical since they said it would be awhile before i get to boot camp and put on my ship thanks everyone for all the information i really appreciate it alot. you guys and gals if applicable are the best

TexasGlock23
08-14-2006, 20:10
Gunner's Mate, that is what I am thinking of going into.

Navy87Guy
08-15-2006, 14:39
Depending on where you are stationed, you will get anywhere from $800-$1600 per month for your housing allowance. That goes straight into your pay check. I'm not sure of the logistics, but you should be eligible for the allowance as soon as you enlist.

Gunner's Mate is a good rate -- but most of them do not specialize in just small arms. They train on the larger guns (76 mm, 5") or on the vertical launching system (VLS) for missiles.

If you want more of a law enforcement type of job, then you might consider Master At Arms. They're like our Navy police.

Be aware that with either rate, you have the possibility of being assigned to sea duty (ship) or shore duty. You also stand a pretty good chance of being sent overseas to some place exotic like Iraq or Afghanistan. Right now, the Navy has more Sailors on the ground in southwest Asia than we do on ships in the area.

Your best bet is to talk to a recruiter in your area. Remember that they are like used car salesmen -- they have a quota and they want to fill it. Get everything in writing and have someone else look it over before you sign on the dotted line...I've seen too many Sailors who were told "they'll take care of that for you in boot camp", only to find out that there were sold a bill of goods.

Don't get me wrong...19+ years and I still love this outfit. Just make sure that you know what you're getting into.

Jim

TexasGlock23
08-15-2006, 17:33
I scored a 48 today on the test. Not high enough for intel, but enough for GM or MA. Now to decide what I want. I really don't want ship duty. But we can't have our cake and eat it too.

BManoftheyear
08-15-2006, 17:47
the recruiter told me you spend 6 months every year and a half onboard and the rest of time you are on base doing drills and working

KIDCOP
08-15-2006, 19:18
OK guys....sea duty, and subs are different. You might be gone for 6 months but last time I went to sea, and yeah we was a foolin' with Iraq the first time, it was 30 days between each port call.

Like any job, there will be good days and bad days. Just starting out you will be the worker bee and at about everyones bidding. Then there is duty watches. While everyone else sleeps, your awake watching something. Then before you know it you make PO3. Life isn't quite as bad and you will be glad you're not the newbe anymore.

My wife didn't work outside of the home after we started our family. It was hard at times but my family never went hungery or did we ever miss a payment on anything. I was digging in some old papers and found some old tax returns. I was amazed on how little I made, but remember I did always have a few dollars in my pocket, not like now it seems.

zrpsycho69
08-16-2006, 11:44
I was in the navy for 4 years. Bootcamp sucked for the first 2 weeks I was there, only because I had never been isolated from my family and friends. Go to sleep at 10pm and wake up at 4am. By the 4th week, I loved it. Sometimes it was difficult because mail was slow. Somtimes you wouldn't get mail while all of your friends did. Also, we were allowed to make (5-10min) phone calls but often times you couldn't get a hold of anyone because they were at work or not answering. Just before bootcamp graduation, the instructors were cool with us, probably because my division won every competition and excelled in everything. The week of graduation, you can go out in town and it is awesome if your family visits because you can hang out with them.

Then you go to "A" school (10 weeks for me if I remember correctly). I was in Dam Neck, Virginia for Operations Specialist (OS) "A" school. This sucked at first too, because you cannot wear civilian clothes for the first 2-3 weeks, you still have to wake up early, and you have to stand duty. Once you get into the routine, it is kind of fun.

Then you go to your duty station. My first one was great, I loved it, I could have done 20+ years at that command under those leaders. However, I only spent a year there and transferred to another duty station. I spent my remaining enlistment there. It sucked!!! The places I got to see were cool, the partying was great, the women were too! The people I worked for was not that great. Most of my superiors were not enlisted friendly and only looked to benefit their own career. Oh, and when I was out to sea I worked 6 hours on 6 hours off, and during my 6 hours off we had to clean the ship between 1-2 hours. I excelled, was great at my job, and got out with an honorable discharge.

Sooooo, it all depends on what you want to do. I have never heard Air Force members complain, and I have seen how their bases are and they are better than Navy bases. Hope this helps....if you need more info just ask.

zrpsycho69
08-16-2006, 11:53
Oh I forgot.....be careful, recruiters do tend to lie. Make sure everything they tell you is in writing and signed. Especially you college money as in your G.I. Bill and Navy College Fund.

Also, the Navy deals with the sea, so sea duty is more than likely the outcome. There are very few rates that do not go out to sea, but they are also usually crappy jobs. Just make sure you go in with a specific job because if not, you will be undesignated and you will be outside in the heat painting the ship all day long, sweating, getting all dirty and treated like crap.

SK's and SH's are like store clerks and they always eat first
IT's are computer and communication guys
CT's deal with top secret info
MS's (I think their names have changed, but they are the cooks)
ET's are electronic technicians....good field that could be beneficial when you get out of the military
OS's operations specialist, this was my field, you work in the dark, they do variety of tasks like navigating, radar operator (tracking ships, planes, subs), radio talkers, secret clearance (some higher), could go to school to shoot the harpoon missile (I had this qualification), but you also get little sleep and do alot of cleaning.

gjwheels
08-17-2006, 11:15
I LOVED the Navy. 4 years, 2/18/52 till 2/17/56. (old timer) onboard the

gjwheels
08-17-2006, 11:22
Woops, pushed the wrong button. 1952 to 1956, LOVED the Navy. USS WASP (cva-18) air Intelligence. I recently saw a special on TV with one of the new super carriers. Air Intelligence and CIC in no way resemble the CIC and AI that I worked in.

I have one son who served in the Air Force and another that served in the Navy. I would recommend VERY HIGHLY either branch to young people today. I loved the sea duty. After my discharge, the toughest change was the lack of true friends that I made in the Navy. I guess most of them have passed away, but they will live in my menories as long as I live. GO NAVY!!!!!!!!!!!

truckstop cop
08-17-2006, 13:31
find a dumpster and paint it gray
move into said dumpster
every night have your wife beat on the side of the dumpster with a pipe(while you sleep)
wake up to the noise and then stay up(on watch) for another 4 hours
the next day repaint dumpster (haze gray)
when it is time to eat,invite a bunch of friends over(at least 200 of them)and stand in line (behind them all)
go on watch
take showers (with the same 200 friends)
once a week leave the dumpster for a day and have a cab drop you off somewhere you have never been before(preferably a red light district)
get back in your dumpster
go on watch
repaint dumpster
do this for 6 months
after six months is up you can see your wife and family(from inside dumpster)
oh but you have duty on that day,so you cannot leave the dumpster,invite wife inside for dinner,wait in a line of about 50 friends
the next day you can leave the dumpster
make sure your back in dumpster on Monday morning(it is Sunday)so you can spend another week inside doing training
oh yes dumpster needs to be painted again


did 20 years in the dumpster and would not trade it for anything!!

zrpsycho69
08-17-2006, 13:38
HAHAHA, LMAO, yup definately an experience.
I enjoyed my 4 years as well. I have memories
that I will never forget and some that my
friends are jealous of....red light districts!

Boats2006
08-20-2006, 09:58
Originally posted by truckstop cop
find a dumpster and paint it gray
move into said dumpster
every night have your wife beat on the side of the dumpster with a pipe(while you sleep)
wake up to the noise and then stay up(on watch) for another 4 hours
the next day repaint dumpster (haze gray)
when it is time to eat,invite a bunch of friends over(at least 200 of them)and stand in line (behind them all)
go on watch
take showers (with the same 200 friends)
once a week leave the dumpster for a day and have a cab drop you off somewhere you have never been before(preferably a red light district)
get back in your dumpster
go on watch
repaint dumpster
do this for 6 months
after six months is up you can see your wife and family(from inside dumpster)
oh but you have duty on that day,so you cannot leave the dumpster,invite wife inside for dinner,wait in a line of about 50 friends
the next day you can leave the dumpster
make sure your back in dumpster on Monday morning(it is Sunday)so you can spend another week inside doing training
oh yes dumpster needs to be painted again


did 20 years in the dumpster and would not trade it for anything!!

Hey guy, this is about the best description I've read of life in the Navy. Choose your "rating" carefully. Why not take some time in making your decision. With a small one at home and a young wife, might want to consider the AF. If your wife isnt into this 100% be sensitive to the decisions you make on joining the NAV. Some of us wanted to go haze grey which helped with duty in the dumpster.


In the MA rate you could spend a 2+ years, out of 4, deployed and on the beach (Navy jargon for land). If you really wanted to be a policeman that's it; but, sounds like you're more mechanically inclined - lots of jobs for you in the Navy.

Ditto on not trading my experiences for anything. My only regret on retiring at 31 years was that I couldnt serve another 31.

aomagrat
08-20-2006, 13:36
Originally posted by BManoftheyear
I'd like to know how it really is from people who have been there and are still there now.My friend joined the marines and he said his recruiter lied alot to him on how everything was gonna be.I don't want marines i want NAVY!So please tell me how things really are in the navy I'd really appreciate it.
I have a wife and a 2 year old daughter, i am only 21 and i figured why pass up a good oppurtunity to go see places and people i'd never be able to see before and to create a good life for my family thank you

I spent 20 years in the navy and I loved it. How it is really depends on the officers in the command. If you end up with a Queeg from the movie "The Caine Mutiny" or a captain like the one from "Mr Roberts" (I've served under both) then you're screwed until you get a new CO, or you have a division officer like Mr Roberts.

My first Division officer was a real martinet. I was lucky if I got 4 hours of sleep a night while he was there. The dude who replaced him was real cool. We got a lot more liberty and as a result we got a lot more done.

The same goes for CO's. We had a captain on my last ship who was crazy. He would run General Quarters drills in port on Saturday and at sea after midnight so they wouldn't interfere with the daily ships work. As a result the ship had one of the lowest reenlistment rate and one of the highest AWOL rate in the fleet, resulting in a CNO investigation, and the relief of the captain. The CO who replaced him was a real liberty hound. We did a 6 month med cruise and the longest time between ports was about three weeks. No way to save any money because I was always in a bar somewhere. I loved it!

As to life in the navy, the dumpster story about sums it up. I miss the liberty in the foreign ports and the travel. Some of the things I don't miss since I retired are as follows:

Since I have retired, I have not have to wake up in the middle of the night, grab a hose and pretend to put out a fire.

I can mow my lawn without wearing goggles, earplugs, long pants, long sleve shirts, steel toe boots, and a respirator. And I don't have to take the mower apart and inspect each part before I crank it.

I don't have to strip and wax my floors every Friday.

My TV now gets more than 3 channels, and one of them isn't the flight deck.

My house does not have a 1MC.

If someone falls off my porch, I do not have to muster the whole family to find out who it was.

I can own a dog and a gun.

My advice is join the navy. Keep an open mind, don't let bootcamp get you down, and once you get to your permanent command, the navy is pretty much like a regular job while in port. Being at sea can be fun too. Steel Beach, Holiday Routine, Liberty Call, etc...

Seabee71
08-27-2006, 22:53
If you do not like being on a ship and want to be a dirt sailor then click the link in my sig. 99% of the time guarentee no ships, we get flown everywhere we go. Be prepared to be anywhere in the world in 48 hours. We get all the cool weapons (M2, M16, M9, M240B, MK19, AT4) and you learn a trade you can use when you get out. Be prepared to run around Iraq or Afghanistan with a USMC MEF or SOF guys. Thats where most of our work has been lately. Good luck

Retread
09-05-2006, 17:17
Originally posted by truckstop cop
find a dumpster and paint it gray
move into said dumpster
every night have your wife beat on the side of the dumpster with a pipe(while you sleep)
wake up to the noise and then stay up(on watch) for another 4 hours
the next day repaint dumpster (haze gray)
when it is time to eat,invite a bunch of friends over(at least 200 of them)and stand in line (behind them all)
go on watch
take showers (with the same 200 friends)
once a week leave the dumpster for a day and have a cab drop you off somewhere you have never been before(preferably a red light district)
get back in your dumpster
go on watch
repaint dumpster
do this for 6 months
after six months is up you can see your wife and family(from inside dumpster)
oh but you have duty on that day,so you cannot leave the dumpster,invite wife inside for dinner,wait in a line of about 50 friends
the next day you can leave the dumpster
make sure your back in dumpster on Monday morning(it is Sunday)so you can spend another week inside doing training
oh yes dumpster needs to be painted again


did 20 years in the dumpster and would not trade it for anything!!

I did 8 years as a Hospital Corpsman (HM2)1978-1987. Longest time I spent on a ship was 2 weeks at any time when deployed with the Marines. I won't try to tell you it's the same Nav. Spent about half my time with the Marines and the other half in hospitals. Loved it with the Marines. I'd be the same rate if I had to do it again. If they wouldn't take me, I'd go Seebee. Those guys live good in the field, and party good too. Made the mistake of switching to the Army since they got promoted faster. Hated it so much I got out after 4 years. Army's sloppy. They don't understand the idea of discipline. (Think about it.) Make sure an officer signs any promises (don't expect it to happen,)and expect to get lied to by recruiters. Do your best and don't take anything too personally. Remember, unless you are a screw-up, anything they do to you can only make you stronger. It will be the best time of your life, and the most difficult. I'd be really careful about the homelife. It isn't as easy as you might think. Family won't understand what you are going through, and absence does not make the heart grow fonder. One more thing, you will be a different person after basic. Understand that, and don't force the changes onto your family. Let them adjust at their own pace.

If you want an easier family life go Air Force.

BManoftheyear
09-06-2006, 13:48
i appreciate all the info and i am now a seabee/ dirt sailor.
I am not to fond of being in the middle of the ocean.I'd rather be on land and with being a seabee you do have jobs you can do when you get out that pay good,
I know about the army my uncle was in it for 22 years and he retired and when after he retired he flew home to my grandmas and he said thank god it's ****ing over.
He said they are very sloppy and not to smart,my friend is in the marines and he said in iraq there has been numerous times that they almost got blown up becuase of the army guys.
Oh well i am ready to get the **** outta here and to the boot,
MY family is ok with it because we have always struggled with cash and it was hard for me to find a good job with only being 20 years old.now this way i wont be spending money like i would be at home with a car payment/insuarance all that stupid stuff too.
So i figured it would be good because of my housing allowance would pay for the living for my wife and daughter and my wife works and she can pay some bills and my pay will basically be extra money that we can save and when i come home on leave we can get super drunk and have a good time

Glolt20-91
10-03-2006, 19:44
Never was a fleet sailor and remember how big the first pay raise was from $28 every two weeks to $32. :) Seabees will be cool, especially if you can go amphibious.

My last duty station had very high morale, our CO was a mustanger who earned the Bronze Star. We took our licks and kicked butt knowing our six was always covered by someone. Practice GQ was always at 1030hrs on Wednesdays; all the rest were real. :50cal: :50cal: Very proud to have served with a great group of guys. :patriot:

Bob :cowboy: MRF RVN III&IV Corps

exprt9
10-04-2006, 00:49
I served in the World's Greatest Navy,The United States Navy! I retired after serving 23 years and 3 mos. I retired in the year 2000 as a Chief Boatswain's Mate. Done a lot of things while in the Navy. I was a Military Policeman for 3 years. I was also part of the Security Alert Team and Back-up Alert Force. I have driven the Commander 7th Fleet Admiral's Barge and a few Captain's that became Admirals, I was sent to advanced firefighting school in Mayport, Fla and qualified as Locker Leader. I also had a chance to sell the Navy as a Recruiter. As a recruiter I laid it out to my prospective recruits what the Navy really was. The Navy is what you make of it! It's not for everybody! If you think it's not for you, do the best you can and use it to your advantage and have fun doing it then get out with an Honorable instead of being miserable for the whole time that you are in and get busted. Some of the people I recruited got out after their contract and some that have made a career in the Navy! I still visit the my old recruiting station and was surprised to find a couple of the recruiters were people that I had recruited. Before retiring from the Navy, one of the parents who's two sons I recruited (one got out and the other career)helped me get my job by turning in my resume to HR. What really got me in there you might ask? My Navy experience!
I still miss everything about the Navy, the good and the bad and most of all my Navy buddies! Oh, I forgot..TAPS! Travel, Adventure and ......?
"If you are asked what you have done worthwhile for your country, you can proudly say, I served in the United States Navy!" (John F. Kennedy)

Fred Hansen
10-04-2006, 14:05
Originally posted by truckstop cop
find a dumpster and paint it gray
move into said dumpster
every night have your wife beat on the side of the dumpster with a pipe(while you sleep)
wake up to the noise and then stay up(on watch) for another 4 hours
the next day repaint dumpster (haze gray)
when it is time to eat,invite a bunch of friends over(at least 200 of them)and stand in line (behind them all)
go on watch
take showers (with the same 200 friends)
once a week leave the dumpster for a day and have a cab drop you off somewhere you have never been before(preferably a red light district)
get back in your dumpster
go on watch
repaint dumpster
do this for 6 months
after six months is up you can see your wife and family(from inside dumpster)
oh but you have duty on that day,so you cannot leave the dumpster,invite wife inside for dinner,wait in a line of about 50 friends
the next day you can leave the dumpster
make sure your back in dumpster on Monday morning(it is Sunday)so you can spend another week inside doing training
oh yes dumpster needs to be painted again


did 20 years in the dumpster and would not trade it for anything!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

:patriot: :supergrin:

In my 4 years in the Navy I never set foot on a ship, so I can't say yea or nay, but that is funny as hell. :animlol:

dbolden
10-05-2006, 21:48
Originally posted by Seabee71
If you do not like being on a ship and want to be a dirt sailor then click the link in my sig. 99% of the time guarentee no ships, we get flown everywhere we go. Be prepared to be anywhere in the world in 48 hours. We get all the cool weapons (M2, M16, M9, M240B, MK19, AT4) and you learn a trade you can use when you get out. Be prepared to run around Iraq or Afghanistan with a USMC MEF or SOF guys. Thats where most of our work has been lately. Good luck

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:Did you overdose on your SeaBee pills? Anywhere in the world in 48 hours. Seriously?! All the cool weapons? Where is the M4, M23, and 226 on your list? IMHO the SeaBees are overrated carpenters that couldn't build a good or bad case of hemoroids. Granted I have never met you, but the ones I have are not the best ambassadors of your rating. In all honesty, if they cared as much about it as you seem to, I would most assuredly have a different opinion.

TexasGlock23
10-06-2006, 14:23
Well, tell us how you really feel.

dbolden
10-06-2006, 21:45
Tex,
That's funny stuff. You made me laugh at that one.

SeaBee,
I apologize for being an ***** to you. Sometimes I don't realize how "to the point" I get.

BManoftheyear
10-07-2006, 22:00
all the kids, and recrutiers at my station really respect my choice and think it is cool that i'm gonna be a seabee.
the smartest man i know my friends dad was a seabee years ago and now he works for the govt. hacking into peoples programs and such.
i am very skillfull with tools and i have done alot of hard mind tampering jobs,thats why i picked seabee and i also wouldn't mind seeing some action instead of sitting on the ship doing the same thing by painting the grey dumpster every day.
i have a military background with family in every branch of the service and they all told me go NAVY so i did!!
GO NAVY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dbolden
10-08-2006, 23:01
Congratulations on your decision. Best of luck to you and make the most of it.

badash
10-13-2006, 23:16
just Rememer " WHAT HAPPENS IN SINGAPORE STAYS IN SINGAPORE " its A FINE City.