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Seabee
09-10-2006, 17:49
My Mindset:
I've been looking for the perfect "every day" gun for quite some time. I have a Glock 23 and a SIG P229, which I love, but are a bit large for me to carry day in and day out. I have a S&W 642 which I love and was near perfect for every day carry but just did not make me feel totally "confortable". I know that .38 is a great round, I just wanted a little something more I guess. Plus, I love semi autos. I wanted a Micro single stack 9mm. After searching the net and asking questions, I decided on the Kahr MK9 Elite 03.

I went with the MK9 series for several reasons. First, I dont mind the weight and figured that the extra heft would tame the 9mm +p on such a small pistol. Second, I live in SE Louisiana. It's hot, real hot 8-9 months out of the year. And then there is the humid weather factor. This gun would be moist most of the time here, and I figured the stainless steel would hold up better. I went with the Elite model for the upgraded trigger, beveled mag well and the polished look (hey, no sence shooting an ugly gun, right). I went with the standard bar/dot sights for now, thinking that if this was a keeper, I would get night sights for it in the near future.

Range Report:
It arrived on Friday afternoon and I took it out to the range this morning. The manual recommends that you should run 200 rounds through it before considering it reliable. After a few stops at Wal Mart and Acadamy, I was set.

I arrived at the outdoor range at about 11 AM and began loading up my two mags, one a six round and the other, an extended 7 round mag, and off I went.

Rounds 1-50 Remington UMC 115 Gr. FMJ - Two hand hold. I had one FTE on round 8. I was using the extended mag at the time. Not sure why it didnt eject, but ejected the mag, jacked the slide and the casing fell out. Reinserted the mag and shot the remaining rounds with no problem. Other that that one round, I had no other problems.

Rounds 51-100 Winchester White Box 115 Gr. FMJ - Two hand hold. All rounds functioned flawlessly.

Rounds 101-150 Remington 115 Gr. JHP - Two hand hold. All rounds functioned flawlessly.

Rounds 151-200 Remington UMC 115 Gr. FMJ - Two hand hold. All rounds functioned flawlessly.

Rounds 201-250 Winchester White Box 115 Gr. FMJ. Alternating hands. 25 rounds left hand only, 25 rounds right hand only. All rounds functioned flawlessly.

Rounds 251-300 Remington UMC 115 Gr. FMJ. 25 double taps firing from one sight picture, two handed. I did this mostly because of the long double action trigger pull. I wanted to see how easy or hard it was to pull accurate double taps. From a range of 10 yards, all rounds landed in the black. While not super great, I think a lot of it had to do with the bar/dot sights. I'm just not use to them. All of my other handguns have three dot night sights. The fact that all rounds landed in the black was good enough for me as they would all be considered COM shots on a human sized target. All rounds functioned flawlessly.

Rounds 301-320 Federal 124 Gr. Hydra-Shok JHP. Two handed. My MK9 REALLY likes this round. I was not worried about group size with the first 250 rounds. That was mostly to test for reliability and to get to know the gun. Rounds 251-300 were to test if the trigger would allow double taps. These rounds were to test my carry load both for reliability and accuracy, and I could not be happier. 20 rounds of slow fire resulted in pretty much one ragged hole dead center of the target at 10 yards. Very impressive. All rounds functioned flawlessly.

It should also be noted that I did not do a full cleaning before or during this test. I took the NIB pistol out of the box, broke it down and oiled the rails and certain other points. The only thing I did during the test was take the gun down after each 100 rounds and put a little oil on the rails. That's it. It should also be noted that all 320 rounds were fired between 11AM and 12:30 PM. That's 320 rounds in about an hour and a half with no cleaning. When I took it apart after arriving home, it was filthy. There were somewhat large pieces of unburned powder in the barrel and all aronnd the inside. I assume it was from the shorter barrel not allowing the power to burn out. Being stainless steel, it was VERY easy to clean and took about the same amount of time as any other firearm I own.

What I will change: Well, not a lot. I plan on getting some night sights. I'm not sure if I will go with 3-dot, or go with a bar/dot like is already on there. I have to admit, the bar/dot took a bit of getting use to, but it was fast and decently accurate for the short range that this gun will be used for. I'll have to do some thinking on that issue. Another thing I will probably change is the grips. The stock plastic grips feel great, but I really like the looks of the wood grips that Houge is offering.

Conclusion: I'm really happy with this pistol. I was leary of the bad reports that some Kahrs were getting, but decided that the risk was worth it. It's perfect for what I wanted, an all day/every day gun that packs a decent round. I just have to find a few good holsters (IWB, OWB, Ankle and pocket) and I should be all set.

MtnDewd
09-10-2006, 21:50
Congrats!

I've had a MK9 elite since April '06 and really like it. I've put 1175 rounds through it to date with ZERO malfunctions! The only thing that I sort of regret about it are the sights. I got the XS Big Dot night sights, which are similar to the bar dot with a very big dot up front. I cannot shoot as accurately with it as I can with 3 dot sights. I'm decently accurate with it, but it's taken some practice to get there. My recommendation for nights sights would be to stick with the 3 dot type. Just my two cents!
I second the motion for the wood grips. I have a set of the checkered Hogue grips on mine. Really sets it off! If I were you, I'd go ahead and get some stainless steel screws for the grips. The ones from Kahr will rust. The screws for ultra slim 1911 grips will work. I just got a set for mine. You can get them from www.woodgrips.com.
As for a good pocket holster, you might try the Nemesis by Desantis. I have one and it works very well for pocket carry and when I got mine it was under $20.
Regards,
MtnDewd
P.S. Also have a K9 & PM9 that are great shooters!

josp
09-11-2006, 08:04
Congratulations!
My first P9 had standard Trijicon 3 dot nite sights, but this time I got the AO big dot night sights.
While you may lose a little group size due the the sight arrangement, it is scary fast for a defensive pistol (cover and shoot) and after 500 or so rounds, I can hit a bowling pin at 50 yards with about a 75% rate. Not too shabby.:thumbsup:

Gunmeister
09-11-2006, 09:17
You mentioned that you hesitated to get a Kahr because of "all the bad reports" you've read. Think for a minute about how many thousands of Kahr handguns that have been produced and sold, the ratio of good to bad is probably close to 1000 to 01 in favor of good ones.
If everyone who owned a good Kahr were to post their favorable comments on the various forums they would far outnumber the unfavorable comments. Dissatisfied people have a tendancy to complain loudly while satisfied customers, for the most part, say nothing. At a guess, a lot of unfavorable comments come from folks who are impatient and don't give the system time to work. Kahr will fix or replace any faulty piece.
A lot of problems stem from not doing a proper break-in, failure to clean and lube properly, limp wristing and the list goes on and on. Kahr's machine tolerences are very tight and proper break-in and lube is a must.
Give the factory a chance to fix or replace a flawed piece and remember when dealing with the factory reps that a teaspoon full of sugar goes a lot farther than a bucket full of poop.
JW:patriot:

Seabee
09-11-2006, 10:24
Good post Master Chief and one of the reasons that I wanted to post my positive experience with this pistol. I hate being without anything that I spent money on because of a problem, but I understand that you have to give the maker a chance to make it right. If all goes well with this little gun, I may pick up a PM9 in the future.

whtroyer
09-15-2006, 16:15
There have not been many bad reports or problems with the MK9. It is certainly one of the best Kahrs. Unfortunately, many people have have purchased the PM9 after owning the MK9 and they have not always been as happy. Hope the new PM9s are finally fixed.

S&W is bringing out the M&P Compact at the end of this month (about the size of the K9) and they will bring out a smaller sub-compact next year. Single stack eight shot, US made and with a lifetime warranty. Competition is always good.

Seabee
09-17-2006, 15:55
Another 300 rounds through it this morning and not a hiccup. Actually, it just gets more accurate the more I shoot it. This ones a keeper.

Edit to add: My 12 year old Daughter was shooting it as well and had no problems.

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