Walther frame failure?

[James Markov]

I have a serious question....anybody shoot a Walther P-1 to the point of a frame cracking? I am actually refering to models with NO hex frame bolts for reinforcement....alloy frame durability is my concern. Thanks guys....

[James Markov]

I am gonna run some more WWB 115 metal case(Wal-Mart value pack) thru it and see how the frame holds up...

[johns961]

Its going to take a lot of WW 115grain ammo to affect
that frame. I am thinking thousands of rounds !
If you want to damage the frame, us 115 grain +P+.
That might do it after a while....

John!

[uncut]

I read a post on the P38 forum just yesterday.....where the exprts said to change recoilsprings on P38's on roundcounts
2000 rounds on steelframe
1500 on aluminium frames

link to post (http://forums.p38forum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10608)

[James Markov]

Thanks gentlemen for the information. A couple things people have told me about the P-1 9mm:
1) The cause of the frame battering is causes by the return stroke of the locking block slamming BACK into the frame. So, replacing springs is allright, but using extra power springs(Wolff) has been linked frame damage. This is because it slams the barrel assembly harder into the frame.
2) The myth is that all German ammo was loaded "hot" I've seen stats that show a 124 grain pistol load from WW2 loaded to approx 1,100 feet per second. Thats what the P-1 was designed for. I guess the sub machine guns have hotter ammo though...see this thread on another site http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=997

[Laserlips]

Originally posted by James Markov
I guess the sub machine guns have hotter ammo though...see this thread on another site http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=997 [/B]

James:

I don't know "squat" about the specifics of German WW2 ammo, but I read recently where the "machine gun" ammo was no different than the standard 9mm round other than each 5th (4th,?) round was a tracer.

Apparently the only reason for the tracer was to allow the machinegunner to determine the flow of rounds and adjust accordingly.

As I said I'm only repeating what I read, but it would make sense to me that in a wartime condition having specific rds for pistols and specific rds for machineguns would be more trouble than it was worth.

I could be wrong.

Best Wishes,

J. Pomeroy