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Bravo 1
09-17-2006, 23:24
I have a .30 cal can on my Rem PSS.

I would like to adapt it to an AK47,,,does anybody know if there are any inherent problems in doing so?

r2kba
09-18-2006, 04:51
Originally posted by Bravo 1
I have a .30 cal can on my Rem PSS.

I would like to adapt it to an AK47,,,does anybody know if there are any inherent problems in doing so?


I have a TPRS on my .308 PSS.

Would I put this 1000$ can on a friggin' AK? HEEEEEEEEEEEEL NO!!!!


AK's are meant to be loud and abnoxious. Do NOT put an expensive can on an AK. Nevermind the threading is probably impossible anyways unless it's a new heavy aftermarket barrel.


Just a bad idea, forget it.

Bravo 1
09-18-2006, 15:12
So,,other than the threading issue,which I can overcome,you do not know of any problems?

Or was that just a good time to rant on my behalf?:shocked:

r2kba
09-18-2006, 15:56
Originally posted by Bravo 1
So,,other than the threading issue,which I can overcome,you do not know of any problems?

Or was that just a good time to rant on my behalf?:shocked:


The only issue is the barrel and baffle strikes. I don't care how new the AK barrel is, I wouldn't put my 1000$ can on an AK.

TED
09-18-2006, 17:12
Make sure that you have the AK, NOT the can, threaded to match. Be very careful about bore cocentricity (making sure that the bore of the can and the rifle are in perfect alignment), in order to avoid baffle strikes. BE VERY CAREFUL that your can has enough tolerance in the boar that it won't have issue with shooting .311 bulletss out of a can originally intended for .308 bulletts, this probably won;t be a n issue but you had dam well better be sure to check it out first.

AK's have a very loud action noice and you may wish to install a recoil buffer which will cut action noise considerably if you are going to be putting a can on it. Also, if your AK is the type that has vents in the gas tube, it will be noisier than one without. If you have a gas tube that has vents I recommend chagning it (cheap and easy under $20 and under 3 min.) to one without.

Lastly, due the grossly massively over gassed action, the AK will never be as quiet as other suppressed self loaders, for example, an AR is almsot always more quiet (although one reason is that the larger the bore the faster the gas leaks out, and peopl often compare a .223 AR to a 7.62 AK and this is very unfair, even many suppressor owners do not understand the relationship of bore size to suppression).

BTW, it is a crying shame that no one makes an adjsutabel gas block for AK's. In all seriousness, toning down the ridiculously overgassed system would bring tons of benefits. Less, noise, less violent aciton, better accuracy, more suppressor friendly, all without impeding reliability (the gas system is overgassed by at least 2-3 times what it needs to be reliable).

Surpriingly, an AK acutally suppresses better than a SIG 552.

TED

Bravo 1
09-19-2006, 07:08
Originally posted by TED
Make sure that you have the AK, NOT the can, threaded to match. Be very careful about bore cocentricity (making sure that the bore of the can and the rifle are in perfect alignment), in order to avoid baffle strikes. BE VERY CAREFUL that your can has enough tolerance in the boar that it won't have issue with shooting .311 bulletss out of a can originally intended for .308 bulletts, this probably won;t be a n issue but you had dam well better be sure to check it out first.

AK's have a very loud action noice and you may wish to install a recoil buffer which will cut action noise considerably if you are going to be putting a can on it. Also, if your AK is the type that has vents in the gas tube, it will be noisier than one without. If you have a gas tube that has vents I recommend chagning it (cheap and easy under $20 and under 3 min.) to one without.

Lastly, due the grossly massively over gassed action, the AK will never be as quiet as other suppressed self loaders, for example, an AR is almsot always more quiet (although one reason is that the larger the bore the faster the gas leaks out, and peopl often compare a .223 AR to a 7.62 AK and this is very unfair, even many suppressor owners do not understand the relationship of bore size to suppression).

BTW, it is a crying shame that no one makes an adjsutabel gas block for AK's. In all seriousness, toning down the ridiculously overgassed system would bring tons of benefits. Less, noise, less violent aciton, better accuracy, more suppressor friendly, all without impeding reliability (the gas system is overgassed by at least 2-3 times what it needs to be reliable).

Surpriingly, an AK acutally suppresses better than a SIG 552.

TED



Excellent answer,,,:thumbsup:

I was wondering about the bore/gas system issues and that adressed it very well.

I am VERY :shocked: ,,surprised to hear an AK supresses better than a 552.

I have 2 556s' ordered right now,,I was hoping to put my Hurricane on one and it be a pretty slick set-up.

Thanks for that bit of info.;)

Glockdude1
09-19-2006, 08:58
http://www.silencertests.com/

Great web site, lots of info.

:thumbsup:

Bravo 1
09-19-2006, 15:27
Originally posted by Glockdude1
http://www.silencertests.com/

Great web site, lots of info.

:thumbsup:


Indeed,:thumbsup:

MrMurphy
09-19-2006, 16:02
Don't remember the name of the company but the Finnish Army suppressed all or almost all of their Valmets (modified AKs), due to their experience from the Winter War and suppressed/unsuppressed weapons, once a guy came up with a short and light enough suppressor.

agalb
09-28-2006, 07:59
Originally posted by r2kba
I have a TPRS on my .308 PSS.

Would I put this 1000$ can on a friggin' AK? HEEEEEEEEEEEEL NO!!!!


AK's are meant to be loud and abnoxious. Do NOT put an expensive can on an AK. Nevermind the threading is probably impossible anyways unless it's a new heavy aftermarket barrel.


Just a bad idea, forget it.


http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f177/agalb/BookDiagrams0001cropped.jpg


Terrible idea, yeah, just terrible..........:thumbsup:

While 14.9db is not spectacular performance, with the inherent issues of suppressing the Kalishnikov design, it is pretty decent.

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