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Hello,
Do you know if P5 are still available in factory, manufactured today?
For those who are a fan of P5..., with what other handgun that you might trade to in similar specs. Thank you.:)
ShipWreck
09-23-2006, 09:49
No, I do not believe so.
Go to www.waltherforum.com for people who will know more about the gun. But I think I asked the same question a few months ago and was told no.
Thank you ShipWreck. In the scale 1-10, where do you put the 9mm P5?
How about Browning HP, Beretta 92fs, HK p2000, and S&W model 10 2".
Laserlips
09-23-2006, 11:22
khan:
It is my understanding that the Walther P5 has long been out of production.
My recently purchased SOG "surplus" P5 was actually mfg. in Feb, 1984. I think I paid around $429.00 for mine a few weeks ago, and it came in what I call "very good" (not excellent) condition, with a military holster, spare mag holster, 2 mags and a cleaning rod.
The only thing imo keeping my P5 from being graded excellent is it has holster wear on the slide.. I believe from the internal appearance the pistol was probably carried a lot, and shot very little. The bore is crisp and well defined.
I've only run 50 or so rds thru it, but so far it has been very accurate and 100% reliable.
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a73/Laserlips/100_5808.jpg
The P4 is actually the final refinement of the P38/P1, and the P5 is apparently a whole different pistol... I have a P1 and it too is a high quality, excellent firearm. I did find out the P38/P1/P5 all used the same recoil springs from Wolff, so guess some of the heritage is still intact...
The P5 from what I've read initially retailed for around $1000 new, and has an excellent reputation. A German gentleman who was actually in the German Army said the Walther P5 was actually preferred over the very classy H&K P7M8* by most users he knew.
Check on Handguns & Ammo if you like as another gentleman just last week got his surplus P5 also purchased from SOG. He has a test report there too.
IMO the Walther P5 is an extremely high quality pistol but because of the price not commonly a topic of conversation on most U.S. firearm forums. I guess perhaps it's the "poor man's" H&K P7M8, but I am well pleased with mine, and I'm glad I bought it.
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a73/Laserlips/100_5840.jpg
FWIW:
I have more than one 9mm pistol.. If I could only have one, I would prefer my Sig P239. So the Walther P5, for me, is just a pleasure plinker. I love it in the same way I love my pristine Walther P1.
Honestly there are just too many options available now in pistols FOR ME to buy a P5 for anything but enjoyment. The Walther P5 is like my Colt Detective Special. They aren't being made anymore, there never will be, and if you want one, for whatever reason, now's probably the time. I don't think you'd ever lose money on it should you need, or just desire to sell it. The P5 is a classic.
Hope this helps,
J. Pomeroy
:thumbsup:
* No flak please from those "snobby" P7M8 owners. I KNOW you and I know where you live, so please allow me to rant about my "poor man's" P7M8.
Actually I don't know where you live, and I'm a coward anyway. :tongueout:
FWIW..... the P5(c)c is still in limited production to my knowledge...
Some time back somebody posted in this forum a question regards a NIB P5(c) he purchased from Earl. Just becouse they are not imported by S&W doesn't mean they are out of complete production.
However khan I doubt that you be able to get a NEW IN BOX being you are in ASIA....if you have the chance to buy one used, do it....
The felt recoil of the P5 is like shooting a smal caliner pistol. It shoots aslmost as soft as a .22lr pistol.
I would give the P5 at a scale 1-10 a 9
you can't compare the P5 to other modern handguns just like you can't compare the P7M8 to others.....they are both in their own ways superb guns.
Hi Laserlips
I must say one thing .....
I would buy both over and over again... the P5 and the P7M8....there is no flak to give
I love the P5 for how smooth and easy it shoots, and I never felt a trigger as smooth than on my P5 for a standard DA/SA police gun....
the P7M8 however is a damn marvel and is much easier to CC than the P5 just size wise..
Laserlips
09-23-2006, 14:51
Originally posted by uncut
Hi Laserlips
I must say one thing .....
I would buy both over and over again... the P5 and the P7M8....there is no flak to give
I love the P5 for how smooth and easy it shoots, and I never felt a trigger as smooth than on my P5 for a standard DA/SA police gun....
the P7M8 however is a damn marvel and is much easier to CC than the P5 just size wise..
uncut:
Beautiful pistols!
J. Pomeroy:thumbsup:
thanks laserlips....
this P7M8 is still unfired.. but it is not my first one... so for now it will stay that way... till I get some other stuff settled .. then it be a shooter like the others...
denfoote
09-23-2006, 19:37
Originally posted by uncut
FWIW..... the P5(c)c is still in limited production to my knowledge...
Some time back somebody posted in this forum a question regards a NIB P5(c) he purchased from Earl. Just becouse they are not imported by S&W doesn't mean they are out of complete production.
However khan I doubt that you be able to get a NEW IN BOX being you are in ASIA....if you have the chance to buy one used, do it....
The felt recoil of the P5 is like shooting a smal caliner pistol. It shoots aslmost as soft as a .22lr pistol.
I would give the P5 at a scale 1-10 a 9
you can't compare the P5 to other modern handguns just like you can't compare the P7M8 to others.....they are both in their own ways superb guns.
The P5 is not listed as being available on the Walther Deutsch web site.
That said, I put 100 rounds through mine today. Decent COM and cerebral ocular shots into a standard NRA silhouette target at 15 yards.
Zero coughs or boggles!!
denfoot.....
I know they are not listed on the German Walther Page....
but I guess Earl's got soem deal with Walther or so I heard
**edit.....OK I found the post where the NIB P5 was talked about
http://www.gothammarketing.com/bb/waltherforum/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi?;act=ST;f=8;t=3516;hl=earl+p5+date
**another edit.... I didn't say that the P5 was listed on the German site.... nor did I say it was in full production.... I said limited...
that said..... I know 2001 was not the "official" last year of production for the P5
Also look here http://www.praxagora.com/lunde/walthers.html a P5c with 'AA" date code making it a 2000.....no Import marks visible....wonder if that might be another one of those special runs from Earl
ShipWreck
09-23-2006, 22:03
Originally posted by khan
Thank you ShipWreck. In the scale 1-10, where do you put the 9mm P5?
How about Browning HP, Beretta 92fs, HK p2000, and S&W model 10 2".
Well, I really want a P5, but have never shot one. So, I cannot rank it.
As for the others, I have only prev owned a Beretta 92FS. To me, a Walther P99 is a 10. A 92FS is probably an 8.5. I have an HK USPcompact, but not a P2000. I am interested in the P2000, but am trying to track down someone local to try it first, however.
Laserlips
09-24-2006, 09:30
Originally posted by ShipWreck
Well, I really want a P5, but have never shot one. So, I cannot rank it.
As for the others, I have only prev owned a Beretta 92FS. To me, a Walther P99 is a 10. A 92FS is probably an 8.5. I have an HK USPcompact, but not a P2000. I am interested in the P2000, but am trying to track down someone local to try it first, however.
IMO:
ShipWreck, I owned a beautiful Belgian Browning HP several years ago and while it was a quality firearm I sold it. The HP "fit my hand" better than anything else I've ever fired, but the sights were small and crappy, and I don't care for a single action pistol when excellent da's are available.
I think if I had been smarter I would have just had the sights changed out on the HP and would have been happier, but nothing I've ever owned beats my Sig P239 OVERALL for my personal defense needs.
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a73/Laserlips/100_4765.jpg
For me personally I think the S&W Airweight Bodyguard in a revolver, and the Sig P239 in a semi offer me what I desire for cc... The addition of CT Lasergrips just make two fine firearms better.
Best Wishes,
J. Pomeroy
Jake Starr
09-29-2006, 10:53
but nothing I've ever owned beats my Sig P239 OVERALL for my personal defense needs.
Maybe that is because you don't own a P99c. :tongueout:
No. The 239 is a great gun. But I have shot both and own the P99c, so what does that tell you. :thumbsup:
I am with Uncut on this one I am under the impression that the P5 is still available in limited numbers. But I am not sure but I know someone who can find out...
I bought a NIB P5 for just about $535 then added Nill grips. What a great gun. I just like to take it out and hold it..:supergrin:
Laserlips
09-29-2006, 11:28
Originally posted by Jake Starr
Maybe that is because you don't own a P99c. :tongueout:
No. The 239 is a great gun. But I have shot both and own the P99c, so what does that tell you. :thumbsup:
I am with Uncut on this one I am under the impression that the P5 is still available in limited numbers. But I am not sure but I know someone who can find out...
I bought a NIB P5 for just about $535 then added Nill grips. What a great gun. I just like to take it out and hold it..:supergrin:
Jake Starr:
You could be right about the P99c, but the Walther I would really like to have is the expensive P88..
I do have a Bersa Thunder 9/Ultra Compact, (the "poor mans" P88)which I've heard was based on and designed from the Walther P88. I don't know that for certain, but my BT9/UC is surprisingly accurate and with a capacity of 13+1 makes a very nice home defense pistol.
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a73/Laserlips/100_4897.jpg
My personal affection for the Sig P239 is just because I've had mine for over ten years, it's never once had a problem, and it is WAYYYY more accurate than my tired old eyes can take advantage of.
The Crimson Trace Lasergrips do add an extra dimension in that in low light/nighttime conditions if you will simply place the red dot where you would like a 9mm corbon round to impact the Sig P239 is capable of putting it there for you.
As an old senior citizen with declining vision and hand strength almost any pistol of reasonable quality will be more accurate than I am capable of taking advantage of.
Best Wishes,
J. Pomeroy
:thumbsup:
Originally posted by uncut
FWIW..... the P5(c)c is still in limited production to my knowledge...
Some time back somebody posted in this forum a question regards a NIB P5(c) he purchased from Earl. Just becouse they are not imported by S&W doesn't mean they are out of complete production.
However khan I doubt that you be able to get a NEW IN BOX being you are in ASIA....if you have the chance to buy one used, do it....
The felt recoil of the P5 is like shooting a smal caliner pistol. It shoots aslmost as soft as a .22lr pistol.
I would give the P5 at a scale 1-10 a 9
you can't compare the P5 to other modern handguns just like you can't compare the P7M8 to others.....they are both in their own ways superb guns. many guns out of productions can still be found new in the box!
Originally posted by spober
many guns out of productions can still be found new in the box!
I know that very well.... but only German made guns come with a "date code" on the gun to show when testfiered...... so if you follow the links that I had posted above you will notice a P5 from 2001 production..... doesn't look like it was out of production when they "officialy" quit importing them to the US
*edit
I also have checked "Walther a German legend" a book that was printed in 2001..... neither the P5c nor the P5 were mentioned to be out of production.....
Jake Starr
10-07-2006, 10:33
I got the word straight from Walther in Germany. The P5 is still in limited production.
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