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Hey all, I haven't written in a while but I come to you now with a huge problem!
I went to the local shop today and wanted to buy a g19. (all I have is a 26) They were out of them new and had a few used (all 2nd gen). Now since I'm used to the finger grooves I thought I should wait to get a 3rd gen.
Here's my questions:
1) What exactly are the differences between the different gens and what should I look for when buying used glocks?
2) For some reason I want to get both! I can't seem to justify this. Other than "because I can" please give me some good reasons to get a new 3rd gen and a used 2nd gen. (I'm not kidding)
Thanks,
APBT
TLHelmer
09-27-2006, 12:46
I would hold out for the third generation frame. New guns come with the rail and the loaded chamber indicator. There was also a difference in the number of pins between one generation the next, but I don't know where the cut off was.
I like my 3rd generation Glocks.
graveman
09-28-2006, 02:37
2) Why not? that way you can see which one is really better, you don't like one of them after all, pass it along. My only concern with used Glocks ( if you don't know the seller or the shop well ) would be how-many-bare-lead-bullets-and-other-shed-reloads did Bubba put through it :shocked: . Also, you'd want to check out the "serial number project" thread and make a little reference card as to what the ballpark of the "born-on-date" is, just to make sure they're not trying to "sneak one up on you" and sell you a 10-15 year-old gun for the same money as a 6-month old one.
For all it's worth, 3rd Gen with the finger grooves seem to fit my hand better. Also the loaded chamber indicator extractor comes in handy sometimes at the range. As far as the rails, I DO have a light/laser ( on the house gun ), but I think they look better than the old-school plain front.
Other than the 1 extra pin for the frame, finger grooves, rails, and the loaded chamber indicator, I don't know of any "improvements" that the 3rd Gen brought; maybe someone else will have a more detaled answer on your 1).
Slvr Surfr
09-29-2006, 08:34
+1.
Take it apart and look at the barrel and internals. Glocks are generaly bullet proof. As long as it clicks when you pull the trigger your good to go. If you buy from a reputable dealer you shouldnt have too much trouble either.
Another difference between 2nd and third gen is the tennifer coating. The older stuff is a matte finish as opposed to the newer finish which is shiny.
I personally cant stand the older stuff, but its tuff as nails.
Originally posted by graveman
2) Why not? that way you can see which one is really better, you don't like one of them after all, pass it along. My only concern with used Glocks ( if you don't know the seller or the shop well ) would be how-many-bare-lead-bullets-and-other-shed-reloads did Bubba put through it :shocked: . Also, you'd want to check out the "serial number project" thread and make a little reference card as to what the ballpark of the "born-on-date" is, just to make sure they're not trying to "sneak one up on you" and sell you a 10-15 year-old gun for the same money as a 6-month old one.
For all it's worth, 3rd Gen with the finger grooves seem to fit my hand better. Also the loaded chamber indicator extractor comes in handy sometimes at the range. As far as the rails, I DO have a light/laser ( on the house gun ), but I think they look better than the old-school plain front.
Other than the 1 extra pin for the frame, finger grooves, rails, and the loaded chamber indicator, I don't know of any "improvements" that the 3rd Gen brought; maybe someone else will have a more detaled answer on your 1).
I guess I am the oddball, I much prefer my 2nd gen to my 3rd, so much so that i ground off the finger grooves of the 3rd gen so that it would fit my hand better. I got the 3rd gen first when i couldn't find a 2nd anywhere near me. But those finger grooves just didn't fit right and they ground off one rainy afternoon and then I found a 2nd gen shortly there after. Both are great guns and I have no qualms about using either one at the range or for carry.
I say if you have patience and like the 3rd gen better then wait. BUT if you are like me and don't have the patience God gave a gnat then run and get that 2nd gen. FWIW if I had the cash and could get them both I would.
Broadside
09-29-2006, 14:36
If you are going to own Glocks, then it is a good idea to have at least two G19's. That way you will always have one ready to go.
Let's face it, we don't always have time to break out the cleaning kit immediately after we finish shooting. How many times have you gone shooting and then headed back home just to throw you handgun in the safe to let it sit for a few weeks. With a second gun, you don't need to worry about this.
If the used G19 was $400 or less and in reasonable condition, I would seriously consider buying it. You may find that you like the fingergroove guns more, but with the 9mm round, the difference will be minimal.
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