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dissthis
10-09-2006, 19:25
Where to get them for the best price??

thanks!

DaGroaner
10-09-2006, 21:02
Originally posted by dissthis
Where to get them for the best price??

thanks!

Classic Arms

Ballistic
10-09-2006, 21:15
http://www.classicarms.us/

.30
10-09-2006, 21:22
For a Romanian you can't beat Classic Arms price nowadays. If you want a Chinese drum, good luck finding them for much under $200. Prices on drums have really shot up in the past year and I think they will continue to climb. So if you want one better jump on it quick.

Blitzer
10-09-2006, 21:23
Originally posted by dissthis
Where to get them for the best price??

thanks!

This is slightly off the topic but from what I hear the best drum will be a Romanian and not a Chinese drum. :thumbsup: ;)

graveman
10-10-2006, 12:56
Originally posted by Blitzer
This is slightly off the topic but from what I hear the best drum will be a Romanian and not a Chinese drum. :thumbsup: ;)

Well it all depends how you look at it.

The Romanian drums are of the Soviet pattern, they load from the top one round at a time like a regular magazine, and the spring is under more-or-less constant tension. Contrary to popular belief, springs wear out due to constant compressing and decompressing and not from just sitting in one of the two states. The drums hang at an angle like a stick mag and may interfere upon insertion or removal with pistol-gripped lower handguards and any other toys you might have on the front.

The Chinese drums are different in that the rear of the drum can be opened and rounds can be placed inside without any spring tension; the drum is then wound up and brought into action by means of a key which is permanently attached to the rear "door". The bad thing about this IMHO is that the spring can be either wound too little ( failures to feed ) or too much ( early spring damage ). The Chinese drums can also be unloaded in a few seconds by opening the rear door and shaking the rounds out. They hang straight down from the magwell so less interference.

Chinese drums haven't been imported since 1993 and no more can be brought in the country, hence they demand a premium over the Romanian ones which can still come in.

Slinger646
10-10-2006, 15:39
So 175.00 for a Chi-com isnt bad......I know where 20 are setting now for that price. :supergrin:

CnRnut
10-10-2006, 18:05
Originally posted by Slinger646
So 175.00 for a Chi-com isnt bad......I know where 20 are setting now for that price. :supergrin:


Just so you know!! It's supply and demand.
Back in the "days",those 20 drums were $400 shipped.
YUP,that's $20 each!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I still have a few but wish I had 1000 of them.

CnRnut

.30
10-10-2006, 20:56
Originally posted by graveman
Well it all depends how you look at it.

The Romanian drums are of the Soviet pattern, they load from the top one round at a time like a regular magazine, and the spring is under more-or-less constant tension. Contrary to popular belief, springs wear out due to constant compressing and decompressing and not from just sitting in one of the two states. The drums hang at an angle like a stick mag and may interfere upon insertion or removal with pistol-gripped lower handguards and any other toys you might have on the front.

The Chinese drums are different in that the rear of the drum can be opened and rounds can be placed inside without any spring tension; the drum is then wound up and brought into action by means of a key which is permanently attached to the rear "door". The bad thing about this IMHO is that the spring can be either wound too little ( failures to feed ) or too much ( early spring damage ). The Chinese drums can also be unloaded in a few seconds by opening the rear door and shaking the rounds out. They hang straight down from the magwell so less interference.

Chinese drums haven't been imported since 1993 and no more can be brought in the country, hence they demand a premium over the Romanian ones which can still come in.



AK drums do not use the same type of spring that regular magazines do. They use a flat spring verses a coil spring. What I have been told is that the flat springs are prone to take a set from being compressed for an extended peroid of time and that Soviet doctrine was to only keep them loaded for a few days. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Glockdude1
10-10-2006, 21:19
Between the 2 types of chinese drums, (75 & 100rd), the 75 is known for being much more reliable of the 2. The chinese drums are very easy to load. Open the back, press down on the "button", release all spring tension, while still holding down the button, turn the wheel until the follower is back in the center. Fill'er up!!. Both drums actually hold +1 over the capacity. The chinese drums can be left loaded forever. When you need it, just wind it, and let her rip.

(Don't burn up the barrel now).

The Russian & Romanian drums are basicly the same, and take alot longer to load. Both are very reliable. You could easily fire off several hundred rd's out of a chinese drum, (load, fire, reload, etc) in the time it would take you to load 1 Romanian drum.

No AK is complete with out a drum!! (or 2)



:thumbsup:

graveman
10-11-2006, 02:16
Originally posted by .30
AK drums do not use the same type of spring that regular magazines do. They use a flat spring verses a coil spring. What I have been told is that the flat springs are prone to take a set from being compressed for an extended peroid of time and that Soviet doctrine was to only keep them loaded for a few days. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Yes, they use flat springs, not coil springs. I apparently didn't make that clear. Flat springs might set and therefore weaken gradually if left compressed for months, years.
Not only the Soviets, but AFAIK any other military will not load mags and keep them full for months at a time, wheter drums or sticks. Keeping mags loaded for extended periods of time puts undue wear on them. Aside from the times I load up to go to the range, all the mags in the house ( except those in the pieces used for defense.....which DO get emptied out and re-freshed at least every couple of weeks ) stay empty.

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