View Full Version : Well i just orderd my 23 today, can any one tell me the correct way to break it in?
Is there a process? If so what is it? How often should I break it down and give it a complete cleaning? thanks alot
SHOOT IT!!!!!!!!! Hundreds and hundreds of time! get everything nice and broken in, especially your fingers pushing the rounds into the mags:D Oh, and have fun:)
PlasticGuy
01-30-2002, 18:56
Run a dry patch through the barrel to remove any oil or obstructions.
Don't remove the copper lube on the slide rails and frame. It helps with the break-in.
Odds are it will have so much oil on it already that you won't need to add any.
Use good, quality factory (not reloaded) ammunition. Some examples are Remington UMC, Federal American Eagle, Speer Lawman, and CCI Blazer. There are others as well, but these are my "stand-by choices" for a new gun. All of these have performed well for me in the past.
Shoot the heck out of it (200 rds should do it).
When you get back from the range, clean it very thoroughly. Clean every speck of powder and copper and everything else out of it. Use a Q-Tip if you need to. From that point on just follow the directions in the manual.
akapennypincher
01-30-2002, 20:29
Originally posted by PlasticGuy
Don't remove the copper lube on the slide rails and frame. It helps with the break-in.
Guy I know owns a Gun Shop, and also Teaches AZ CCW. He tells all customer to Clean & Lube per manual their New Firearms before firing that first shot.
Say he knows when students has cleaned, or did not clean New Firearms if they have Glocks. As he checks every firearm in each class (safety check) before they go to the range to shoot.
The Gold Grease is a Dead Give away of a NON Cleaned Glock. He is a Glock Stocking Dealer, and said the Gold Grease is a TRANSIT GREASE, and can or can not be removed.
The Glock Gold Grease is an Interesting Topic of Discussion, and should the Gold Grease work its way out, be clean off before the first shot is fired through a new Glock or? Is I think like asking how high is up? Many Answers, and all appear Correct.
Looked at the Manual that Came with one of my Glocks, and it never Mentions the Famous Gold Grease.;f
Mine is three weeks old and I am still breaking it in. I am putting about 100 rounds through a week when I have the time. Always a good cleaning after.
-D
Do you use the same oil as a rifle? Do you use just bore cleans and oil? do you have to grease anything?
PlasticGuy
01-31-2002, 06:24
Originally posted by akapennypincher
...He is a Glock Stocking Dealer, and said the Gold Grease is a TRANSIT GREASE, and can or can not be removed...
...Looked at the Manual that Came with one of my Glocks, and it never Mentions the Famous Gold Grease.;f
I realize that it doesn't say in the manual not to clean the copper lube off, but that is exactly what the factory will tell you if you call and ask them. Give it a try, and tell your dealer what you were told. I think you'll both be suprised.
I don't want to make too big of a deal about it because I know people who have cleaned it off before ever having fired a shot, and they haven't had any problems. I'm just telling you what the Glock reps say.
As far as BlackZ's question about where to lube/grease, the manual will tell you and have pictures to show you where to lube. They have done a better job than I could do here, so I won't try. Just wait until the manual is in your hands and follow the instructions for disassembly and cleaning. It really is easy, and any decent gun solvent and oil will work.
akapennypincher
01-31-2002, 10:00
Originally posted by PlasticGuy
I realize that it doesn't say in the manual not to clean the copper lube off, but that is exactly what the factory will tell you if you call and ask them. Give it a try, and tell your dealer what you were told. I think you'll both be suprised.
Well as I was very Curious, So I Called the Good Folks at Glock in Georgia this afternoon. Spoke
with a Gentleman in Glock Technical Assistance.
He said the Gold Grease is an Anti Seize Grease used so that Glock Do Not Seize Up In Transit, or
while Sitting on the Dealers Shelf waiting to be bought.
I laughed as Glocks in the Phoenix Area Glocks do not "sit" long, the guy also laughed, and mention
the old days when Glock were not in Vogue. They did sometimes sit for a while before someone
bought them.
The Gentleman also mention that the Gold Grease Could be Clean Off, or Allowed to work in but
mentioned that the Gold Grease was "NOT" a Break in Lube, it was an Anti Seize Grease.;a
PlasticGuy
01-31-2002, 10:05
Well, I guess I owe you an apology. I called two years ago when I was getting my first Glock (a model 19), and the gentleman I talked to told me that I should leave it on for the initial range session. Apparently they've changed their position on it.
switch625
01-31-2002, 10:25
glocks need no break in period. it's not a pos 1911.
the lube gets in everything if you don't clean it. the lube they apply is thick and nasty. i clean and lube a new glock before the first shot.
I just bought my first glock a G23 and love it. One thing I learned here on glock talk is how to smooth out the trigger pull. Try dry firing you glock. Does the trigger pull seem to have stages where it is easier or harder to pull? Does the pull seem different for the last 1/8th inch before the firing pin releases. I polished all the internal metal parts with a dremel and Mass metal polish. After polishing and reassembling the gun you only feel a smooth constant pressure from the trigger until you hear the firing pin snap. This made my shooting much more accurate. If you have more questions do a search of this site for "dremel" and you can read exactly how to do it.
Kennyo
Originally posted by BLACK Z
Do you use the same oil as a rifle? Do you use just bore cleans and oil? do you have to grease anything?
A highly debated topic on this and many other gun boards. I prefer Kleen Bore "TW25 B", mostly because it lubes well and does not attract junk. This or any quailty gun oil will be fine for all Glock lube points, no grease needed.
glockgeek
02-04-2002, 13:39
I shall read from the book of armaments, page 37, "Note that the copper colored lubricant found on portions of the slide of brand new GLOCK pistols should not be removed, as it will help to provide long-term lubrication of the slide."
This is straight from a Gen 3 Glock manual.
How do you get a manual for a 22 model?I bought mine new but didn't get one with it.
kellyclan
02-13-2002, 19:25
Ged, go to the www.glock.com and contact them by the media of your choice with your woes. i doubt they'll charge you for it.
The "copper goo" as we call it here, it a lube to prevent the metals from binding on each other, as the Glock rep said. The rep from Glock at a demo told us that it was there to keep everything kosher while the gun was in the shop and customers were racking the slide and while he recommended just letting it wear away, having it there or cleaning it off didn't make much difference. Topglock sells the stuff, btw.
Gunnut605
02-27-2002, 17:19
I have left the copper goo on and cleaned it off with diferent Glocks over the years and have not noticed a difference either way. I clean it off now because I asked the local armorer and he said to, but on my 27 and 22 I left it on and haven't had any problems.
1911copper
09-07-2002, 07:08
Originally posted by switch625
glocks need no break in period. it's not a pos 1911.
Its always amazing to me how I have to defend Glocks at the 1911 forum, and 1911's on this forum,whenever I see juvenile statements like this.
They're both good guns. I like my Glocks too. Its all about personal preference. Everything's a compromise. You give away one thing to gain another. I carry my Glocks on duty, but when I'm off duty or shooting IDPA, I reach for my daily carry 1911. It will shoot groups within my Glock groups.
None of my Glocks have needed any "break-in" period. You should certainly put a few hundred rounds through it and make sure it's functional, but I've never seen one that wasn't. Glocks aren't REALLY perfect. They're just a whole lot closer than anything else.
Disassemble your G-23 after every trip to the range and wipe it clean. I use BreakFree CLP. Get some Q-tips and/or toothpicks to help with the little recesses. Use a good bore cleaner for the barrel, and lubricate just a LITTLE with the BreakFree, in exactly the places the manual says. [Anyone without a manual can get one from Glock in Smyrna, Ga. I believe they will send you one for free.] It's easier to screw up a Glock with too much lube, than it is with too little. If you skip a cleaning and lube after a couple of hundred rounds; it'll still work if you leave it sit for a couple of weeks, even if you sweat all over it. And it won't rust, but it's just a good idea to take care of something you expect to take care of you.
The copper lubricant can stay or go. I usually just let it wear off by itself. It won't really matter, in my experience. I took a brand new G-26 out of the box last year and started shooting it. I didn't buy it as a regular carry weapon, so I just wanted to try something. After 6 weeks and 2000 rounds, I went ahead and cleaned and lubed it. It was leaving a layer of funk on my hand and holsters. I'm not sure if it would have EVER jammed. This auto routinely shoots into less than 2" at 15yds. OFFHAND, and it did right out of the box. My heavily used G-27 isn't much worse, and it's probably more accurate than it was when I first started abusing it.
I've been getting a lot more use out of my G-23 lately, and I usually carry it when I don't need the greater concealment of the G-27. Pound for pound, the G-23 is the best all around antipersonnel handgun ever made; in my opinion. I wouldn't take mine to the bullseye competition at Camp Perry, unless I felt like I might need to defend myself. In which case; I wouldn't carry anything else.
In my G27 and G23, I practice with 180gr UMC most of the time, and 180gr USA the rest of the time. I carry 180gr Federal Hydrashocks. ALL .40 Caliber autopistols are designed around, sprung for, and their sights regulated for; 180gr. jacketed bullets at around 950fps. Internet myths aside; with over 25,000 rounds through the G-27 and around 12K through the G-23, I haven't had to change my nickname to "Stumpy" or "Lefty". [There aren't any .40 cal JHPs between 155-180gr that I would have any qualms about using in self defense.] Restrict your shooting to reputable American factory ammo. DO NOT shoot somebody's brother-in-law's reloads, or the ones that come in a big zip-lock bag at the gun show....In ANY gun! I never shoot lead in a Glock barrel.
Before this descends into a discussion on "Stopping Power", which is not scientifically quantifiable, or predictable, in any way, I leave you with this: the ONLY way to "break-in" any defensive handgun is to shoot the crap out of it. This will break YOU in too. It's a win-win situation.
Duck of Death
09-09-2002, 08:49
Originally posted by BLACK Z
Do you use the same oil as a rifle? Do you use just bore cleans and oil? do you have to grease anything?
I've had good luck using synthetic motor oil. Its cheap and seems to work as well as anything else. No break in period for my G23 I just cleaned the barrel and its been 100%. Don't worry about putting too much oil on your Glock, autos like oil. If you carry it then be sparing if your shooting it be generous. One thing though, keep the striker channel dry. Check out www.glockmeister.com on how to take the Glock appart. Detail striping and cleaning should be done every thousand rounds or so. I use Simple Green to degrease. I don't bother to take the frame apart just spray with SG and rinse with hot water then blow dry with a hair dryer. The same can be done with the slide but it must be taken apart to make sure its is completely dry. Others may have different ideas for maintinance but this method works for me. I shoot in IDPA and USPSA and shoot alot of rounds a year and have yet to see any undue wear on my Glock.
I hope this helps, good shooting.
striderglock
09-22-2002, 17:05
Originally posted by 1911copper
Its always amazing to me how I have to defend Glocks at the 1911 forum, and 1911's on this forum,whenever I see juvenile statements like this.
They're both good guns. I like my Glocks too. Its all about personal preference. Everything's a compromise. You give away one thing to gain another. I carry my Glocks on duty, but when I'm off duty or shooting IDPA, I reach for my daily carry 1911. It will shoot groups within my Glock groups.
it's not juvenile, it's true. buying a 1911 is a crap shoot.
1911copper
09-24-2002, 22:09
And buying a Glock gives you only so much potential.
Seems to me that if all 1911's were as tight as a Kimber Classic II, Everyone would have at least one. I get consistent 2 in. groups at 50 feet and it will shoot any round you can buy +p or +p+. Nice gun! ;Y
Rocketman
09-27-2002, 17:30
Originally posted by BLACK Z
Is there a process? If so what is it? How often should I break it down and give it a complete cleaning? thanks alot
Like PlasticGuy said, run a patch down the bore, put a drop of oil on each slide rail and one on the connector and shoot it. There really is no break in period for a Glock. Glocks can go 3k rounds or more without cleaning. When it starts getting cruddy, clean it, then oil as above. Remember, too much oil is the best way to stop a Glock...
CrownRoyal55
09-28-2002, 16:35
I agree with FOURTY. The whole statement. 100%
Shoot, shoot, shoot. All it can do is make your skills better. Trust me, you will not "wear out your GLOCK."
-Brent
ditto, shoot, shoot, shoot!!!!
Right. You know nothing about 1911's or about pistols in particular so you stick with one brand. I own Glocks and a number of Wilson 1911's. The 1911 can asilyoutshoot the Glock and do it much faster. Try to learn something before spouting off.
Originally posted by striderglock
it's not juvenile, it's true. buying a 1911 is a crap shoot.
I broke my in by sleeping with it. ;f
1911copper
10-03-2002, 16:38
Originally posted by bmorge
I broke my in by sleeping with it. ;f
Good one!
Eddie C.
10-03-2002, 16:44
Good luck with it and Enjoy!
I posted this almost a year ago, the start date on my thread was 1-30-02 I think, I am getting more replies then a year ago, I just though I would share that. Thanks
JeepDriver
10-14-2002, 18:08
Good info on this post. I just bought my first Glock, a 23. I have been looking into ammo for the break in period. I always took special care to break in my rifle bores with good ammo, and plenty of time between shots. From reading this I see it is not nessary for the Glock. Thanks for the info
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