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GreenBeret1631
11-12-2006, 17:21
http://www.armytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-2331236.php

Army dominates in sniper contest

By Michelle Tan
Staff writer
FORT BENNING, Ga. — Army teams dominated the sixth annual International Sniper Competition, which ended Nov. 2, by sweeping the top five spots at the end of the intense six-day event.

Staff Sgt. Joe Lynch and Staff Sgt. Michael Rach, of 3rd Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment at Fort Benning, emerged as this year’s champions. The winners, who have been shooting together for four years, led the field for most of the competition.


“We stuck to what we knew,” Rach said. “We tried not to concentrate on the scores too much. We went and did it and had fun, and it worked out well.”

As winners, Lynch and Rach will each receive a custom-made rifle and a custom Smith & Wesson pistol, as well as other field items.

Sgt. 1st Class Jason St. John and Staff Sgt. Robby Johnson, of the Army Marksmanship Unit, claimed second place, while another 75th Ranger Regiment team — Sgt. Michael Cassidy and Sgt. Thomas Payne, of 1st Battalion at Hunter Army Airfield — finished third. Cassidy and Payne are fresh off a deployment in Iraq.

The Fort Bragg, N.C.-based Special Warfare Training Group’s Sgt. 1st Class Eric Wagner and Sgt. 1st Class Tim Gozelski, and Sgt. 1st Class Aric Gray and Sgt. 1st Class Clint Lumpkins rounded out the top five.

“There’s a lot of good shooters out here,” St. John said. “We don’t underestimate anyone.”

The competition, sponsored by the Army Sniper School, brought to Fort Benning 26 sniper teams from the Army, Marine Corps, Air Force and the British, Canadian and Israeli militaries. The Israeli team features the only woman competing in this year’s event.

One team, from the National Guard Sniper School, was eliminated for a safety violation, while a Canadian team dropped out because of an equipment malfunction.

Air Force Staff Sgt. Lee Lyles and Staff Sgt. Ron Batts, of the 786th Security Forces Squadron, Sembach Air Base, Germany, were disappointed with their 14th-place finish, but the chance to compete was “an opportunity of a lifetime,” Batts said.

“It’s good to see other competitors,” Batts said. “We’re learning a lot from them.”

The weeklong competition started Oct. 28, and the first few days were packed with scenarios designed to simulate combat.

“This competition is by far larger than anything we’ve done before,” said Capt. Marc Messerschmitt, commander of the Army Sniper School. “The competitors are going to get a lot out of this week. They’ll leave here ... and they’ll be better trained.”

Competitors fought their way to an infantry unit pinned down by the enemy, fired a M2 .50 caliber machine gun at long-range targets and tested their ability to shoot accurately after jumping over obstacles, running and carrying 30-pound sandbags.

“It’s a lot more combat-oriented and physical, which I think is a good twist,” St. John said. “I think with them being combat-focused, it really gives you an idea of where you’re at.”

The combat-focused events were new additions to the competition.

“I think the battlefield is much more fluid” these days, Messerschmitt said. “Snipers need to be more adaptive and be able to engage the target [at] no matter what range.”

Competitors also completed a pistol shoot and an aerial shoot that required them to hit targets from a UH-60 Black Hawk helicopter hovering 75 to 85 feet above the ground.

The event also is an opportunity for competitors to pick up lessons to bring back to their units and to share tips with one another, Messerschmitt said.

“Meeting other members of the sniper community is always a good time,” Lynch said. “It’s interesting how similar we are no matter what country or what service.”

Here are the final standings for the sixth annual International Sniper Competition:

1st — Staff Sgt. Joe Lynch and Staff Sgt. Michael Rach, 3rd Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment.

2nd — Sgt. 1st Class Jason St. John and Staff Sgt. Robby Johnson, Army Marksmanship Unit.

3rd — Sgt. Michael Cassidy and Sgt. Thomas Payne, 1st Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment.

4th — Sgt. 1st Class Eric Wagner and Sgt. 1st Class Tim Gozelski, Special Warfare Training Group.

5th — Sgt. 1st Class Aric Gray and Sgt. 1st Class Clint Lumpkins, Special Warfare Training Group.

6th — Marine Sniper School (East). Names withheld.

7th — Sgt. Michael Gerniglia and Sgt. Christofer Kitto, 1st Battalion, 15th Infantry Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

8th — Sgt. Sean Clark and Sgt. Christopher Johnson, 1st Battalion, 21st Infantry Regiment, 25th Infantry Division.

9th — Staff Sgt. Dean Phillips and Sgt. Matthew Weitz, 1st Battalion, 27th Infantry Regiment, 25th Infantry Division.

10th — Cpl. Greg Shaw and Lance Cpl. James Southall, 1st Battalion, Coldstream Guards, Great Britain.

11th — Staff Sgt. Daniel Holm and Sgt. Neil Moore, Ranger Operations Company, 75th Ranger Regiment.

12th — Staff Sgt. Sal Lopez and Sgt. Jesse Cheon, Marine Sniper School (West).

13th — 2nd Battalion, Princess Patricia’s Canadian Light Infantry, Canada. Names withheld.

14th — Staff Sgt. Lee Lyles and Staff Sgt. Ron Batts, 786th Security Forces Squadron, Air Force.

15th — Israeli Defense Force. Names withheld.

16th — Sgt. Donald Forbis and Spc. Brendan Kelley, 3rd Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment.

17th — Sgt. 1st Class Brian Brink and Sgt. Samuel Butterfield, 173rd Airborne Brigade.

18th — Staff Sgt. Erik Correa, 1st Battalion, 14th Infantry Regiment, 25th Infantry Division, and Sgt. Adam Daponte, 1st Battalion, 21st Infantry Regiment, 25th Infantry Division.

19th — 1st Battalion, Coldstream Guards, Great Britain. Names withheld.

20th — Sgt. Adam Gasper and Spc. Michael Pesamoska, 1st Battalion, 15th Infantry Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

21st — Sgt. Lorne Wilson and Spc. Daniel Mitchell, 1st Battalion, 27th Infantry Regiment, 25th Infantry Division.

22nd — 1st Battalion, Princess Patricia’s Canadian Light Infantry, Canada. Names withheld.

23rd — Sgt. Andre Ashe and Sgt. Stephen Mahlstedt, 2nd Battalion, 22nd Infantry Regiment, 10th Mountain Division.

24th — Sgt. Brad Atanasoff and Sgt. Eric Anderson, 2nd Battalion, 22nd Infantry Regiment, 10th Mountain Division.

ranger88
11-12-2006, 19:18
Rangers Lead The Way!!! Hoo-ah!!!

FDC
11-12-2006, 19:42
Sounds like a good test.
Good to see it's open to all services, and allies such as the UK, Canada, and Israel. Congrats to the winners.

DriBak
11-28-2006, 19:23
:thumbsup:

AK_Stick
11-29-2006, 00:37
Having seen some of those guys shoot from my birds in practice, before they deployed to Iraq, and having met the winner of last years shoot from the 172nd (or maybe he placed like 3rd or somthing it was great), I was freaking amazed they could hit targets at 3-500m with a single round from a moving helicopter.

.45greg
12-17-2006, 14:28
What safety violation did they commit?

justinhcannon
12-25-2006, 13:56
:tongueout:
Eat that Marine Corps!!!

Sua Sponte!

sts47
12-31-2006, 07:01
Going to the eye doctor that worked on the eyes of #2 sniper.

So far looking at 20/15, possible 20/10 but that's so rare as not even a possibility.

will cost close to 5K, but will be worth it.

boomcat
01-01-2007, 16:37
If I was a member of
"1st Battalion, Princess Patricia’s Canadian Light Infantry, Canada. Names withheld."

I would want my name withheld, too.

sts47
01-02-2007, 00:54
ouch:upeyes:

RENEA
01-03-2007, 05:15
:thumbsup:

The U.S Army once again setting the standard for excellence!

Bravo-Four
01-04-2007, 13:42
Thats really cool, if im correct which im pretty sure I am, I was actually in the same US Army Sniper School class with SGT Payne, who was a SPC at the time. (the second place team from 75th)

They had both the stalkmaster and the top gun for the class, and Payne was the stalkmaster for our class. This was back in winter of 04

rifle-cop624
01-05-2007, 11:12
I went to sniper school in July of 94 and it was 5 weeks, in ****ty Harmony Church out at RTB, back then. I thought it was the most high-speed training I'd ever had. Then, last year I saw a show on Discovery channel about the new Sniper School and saw some funky new optic on an M24, a bunjch of cool range-E and target-D exercises, and it really looked like the school had progressed quite a bit. I was very impressed.
You newer soldiers could shoot rings around me, I'm sure.

meshmdz
02-02-2007, 23:02
Originally posted by justinhcannon
:tongueout:
Eat that Marine Corps!!!

Sua Sponte!


Amen to that! I get so tired of hearing the Corps gloat about how much tougher and better they are than the Army. :tongueout:

Bravo-Four
02-07-2007, 09:58
Well its easy for them to do. Graduate boot camp, get your globe & anchor, flex for everyone and never do another notable thing, combat aside.

What did they place in the comp again, 16th?

rifle-cop624
02-07-2007, 13:56
Eagle Globe and Anchor = Buzzard, Eight ball and Fish hook!

FDC
02-07-2007, 15:04
Originally posted by rifle-cop624
Eagle Globe and Anchor = Buzzard, Eight ball and Fish hook!

Not necessarily, but they are certainly not as "special" as they think they are. Kind of like idiots that fall out of planes--They're special, just not that special.;)

slugger6
02-08-2007, 15:47
As a former Army sniper (Vietnam) I would like to add my congratulations. Well done!

craig_o
02-08-2007, 20:55
Originally posted by boomcat
If I was a member of
"1st Battalion, Princess Patricia’s Canadian Light Infantry, Canada. Names withheld."

I would want my name withheld, too. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

82ndAbn
02-09-2007, 03:07
I'm proud to see the Rangers emerging as victors. They are the best light Infantry in the world. It is no surprise they would have the top marksmen.

Blitzer
02-09-2007, 03:19
While I was in the U.S. Air Force, 1975-79, Snipers were either Security Police or Law Enforcement first. Too bad or I would have cross trained as loved to shoot a rifle. I learned to shoot before I was 17. I took a marksmanship ribbon 5 times in 4 years.

An aside; On the weekend range visits the SPs and LEs thought I was crazy for shooting a custom extended case/chamber .44 Super magnum Contender. :supergrin: :rofl:

Tangodown0311
02-10-2007, 07:38
Originally posted by FDC
Not necessarily, but they are certainly not as "special" as they think they are. Kind of like idiots that fall out of planes--They're special, just not that special.;)

Now now, be nice Army boys. I'm glad to see you guys dominated in your own little sniper competition. It'd be a shame if a Jarhead beat you at your own game. But it's just that. A competition.

IIRC, a MARINE sniper is credited to having the longest confirmed kill in the current war. A shot that was over 1000yards. Let's not confuse games with real life. ;)

Tangodown0311
02-10-2007, 07:43
Here's the story for those interested: http://www.tacticalforums.com/cgi-bin/tacticalubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=50;t=000653#000000

FDC
02-10-2007, 09:33
Originally posted by Tangodown0311
Now now, be nice Army boys. I'm glad to see you guys dominated in your own little sniper competition. It'd be a shame if a Jarhead beat you at your own game. But it's just that. A competition.

IIRC, a MARINE sniper is credited to having the longest confirmed kill in the current war. A shot that was over 1000yards. Let's not confuse games with real life. ;)

Jeesh. I was actually defending you guys. Kids these days:tongueout: . Who do you think I was referering to with "idiots that fall out of planes" remark.:supergrin:

Could have sworn it was a Canadian from Princess Patricia's Light Infantry with the longest shot of the current war games anyways.;)

justinhcannon
02-10-2007, 13:15
I'm sure the Marines do have the longest "confirmed" kill. Probably confirmed by CNN, since they are always right beside each other. Heck, CNN was in Afghanistan before the Marines were. With that record, CNN could have seen the impact themselves.
United States Media Corps
Hoowhat?

Bravo-Four
02-10-2007, 16:10
Yarrr. I spy a sea sissy in the Soldier's forum.

And yes the canadians have the current record.

justinhcannon
02-10-2007, 17:33
maybe I'm just paranoid, B4 sniper-qual'ed dude, but if you're referring to me, take a look at my sig line.

Bravo-Four
02-11-2007, 09:11
Actually, I was referring to the marine that breached the wire and came in here. A sea sissy is slang term for marine/navy. You don't apply.

justinhcannon
02-11-2007, 22:22
roger

Erik Von Doom
02-15-2007, 15:27
HUA! I just called them Squid wannabe's when I was in.