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SIGShooter
11-17-2006, 07:51
Well I went and got a USP 9MM. I have been in NC for about 3 months and found a great gun store there. I ended up trading in the Wilson CQB for a P220 and a USP 9MM. (Wilson did me wrong. Won't be carrying anymore of their products.) Now here is the question... (I couldn't find the answer using the search feature)

If I want Glock parts and accessories I go to Glockmeister... If I want H&K parts and accessories where do I go? Also, can I send the H&K in and have it converted to Variant 7?


Thanks all!!!

uncut
11-17-2006, 10:22
http://www.HKpartsonline.com
http://www.e-gunparts.com/

other than that..... Go to HKpro.com..... best info you will ever find.. whatever you need, you will either find a source or somebody that has it for sale.....
Also .. yes you can send your USP in and have it converted to var.7...however any competend gunsmith should be able to do it no problem

Glockster_James
11-17-2006, 10:52
www.hkpro.com The answer to everything HK. :)

uncut
11-17-2006, 11:43
yea I forgot to say....
if you get a "member****" to HKpro.com.... you can contact HK customer service direct... and get some other goodies too .....
I gues it is $35 a year.... but I am not 100% sure

Fireman1291
11-17-2006, 13:57
V7, is that the varient where you can keep it "cocked and locked"

I had a USP45c that I believe was V7. I "might" be aquiring a fullsize USP45 and the guy said its a LEM trigger. I didnt know they had that option. However Ill prob want to get it changed to V7 after I get it, I dont care for LEM. Does HK charge for the swap?

SIGShooter
11-17-2006, 20:05
Awesome! Thanks everyone!


The Variant 7 is the LEM trigger. No selector lever on it at all. I have to say I think H&K got the LEM trigger right! I was messing around with a USP 40S&W in Variant 7 and I love it. I also like the P2000. That is one smoothe trigger!

uncut
11-17-2006, 21:14
Originally posted by SIGShooter

The Variant 7 is the LEM trigger. No selector lever on it at all.

Ummmm are you sure about the LEM
I thought the V.7 was the true DAO with no selector....
doublecheck that .... that will make a worlds difference in triggertravel and weight
http://hkpro.com/usp.htm
though I think you can have your USP converted to LEM..... but it is not V7... as back in the days there was no such thing as a LEM at all.

Fireman1291
11-18-2006, 10:32
Which varient is locked and cocked?

Fireman1291
11-18-2006, 10:34
ok,looking at the link I think I had V9.

uncut
11-18-2006, 11:26
Ok just to make sure some don't get confused......
Version 1-10 are all with control lever as pictured in the above link...

You can convert your USP to the LEM trigger... the variants there however have their own designation... 1-5
they are all except for the v.3 the same (LEM/CDA or as some call it the light DAO) and just differe in trigger pull weight
V3 is the DA/SA setup.... however I think that only applies to the P2000 series....since the original V3 and V4 on USP already are DA/SA just with the decocker on different sides of the frame

choochboost
11-18-2006, 19:13
Originally posted by uncut
Ok just to make sure some don't get confused......
Version 1-10 are all with control lever as pictured in the above link...
No, variant 7 does NOT have a control lever.
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d11/choochboost/uspvariants.jpg

The P2000 variants are completely different.

-gunut-
11-18-2006, 20:36
I think that the DAO variations have the LEM trigger. Isn't the LEM HK's DAO?

uncut
11-18-2006, 21:42
Originally posted by choochboost
No, variant 7 does NOT have a control lever.


The P2000 variants are completely different.

my appology... good thing I reffered to the pic huh....

You are correct about the P2000 being different in the fact that their style is different.... but when it comes to the trigger the LEM on the P2000 is the same than in the USP (pull weight) if you install the LEM afterwards
the version 1,2,4,5 on the P2000 will reflect same triggerweight as the LEM version that you can convert your USP to

uncut
11-18-2006, 21:43
Originally posted by -gunut-
I think that the DAO variations have the LEM trigger. Isn't the LEM HK's DAO?

No ther version 7 DAO is a true DAO.... long heavy triggerpull
where the LEM is precocked and due to the hammer has a second "strike" (lack of better words) capability....

uncut
11-18-2006, 21:51
Maybe this posters English is better than mine.....

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=5&f=29&t=37002

SIGShooter
11-19-2006, 11:03
No ther version 7 DAO is a true DAO.... long heavy triggerpull


If I'm not mistaken the Variant 7 also has a second strike capability. It also has a hammer as does all of the H&K's in the USP line and P2000 line. Also the trigger pull is the same in all of the Variant 7's. According to H&K USA the LEM is the Variant 7 and the Variant 7 is the LEM.

uncut
11-19-2006, 14:04
Originally posted by SIGShooter
If I'm not mistaken the Variant 7 also has a second strike capability. It also has a hammer as does all of the H&K's in the USP line and P2000 line. Also the trigger pull is the same in all of the Variant 7's. According to H&K USA the LEM is the Variant 7 and the Variant 7 is the LEM.



It would not be a DAO if it could not do a second strike...




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LEM is the light DAO trigger system, like what is used on the P2000 and P2000SK. The LEM can also be had as an additional variant on the USPC and USP.
The normal 1-10 variants on the USP and USPC are:
Right hand-odd numbers.
Left hand-even numbers.
1,2=SA/DA safe decock
3,4=SA/DA decock only
5,6=DAO, safety
7=DAO, no control lever.
8=same as 7 but with high powered night sights. Not imported into the USA
9,10=SA/DA, safe only.

LEM triggers are entirely different. They use a preloaded hammer to make the pull very much ligher than the normal V5,6,7,8 DAO pulls which is about 13 pounds. The LEM also retains double strike capability.
They come in 5 variants:
V1=5 pound DAO pull
V2=8 pound DAO pull
V3=SA/DA, decock only. Pull the same as a USPC or USP
V4=7 pound DAO pull
V5=10 pound DAO pull



LEM is nothing like V5,6,7
also the trigger travel/reset on a LEM is shorted than on a DAO

*edit.... but why don't you go and ask over at the HKpro.com forum...maybe you belive them more....
if version 7 would be LEM why would H&K not just call it LEM
becouse there is a difference....
from H&K website:
The USP is available in nine trigger/firing mode configurations and three calibers: 9mm, .40 S&W and .45 ACP.
The Heckler & Koch LEM (Law Enforcement Modification) trigger system variant is now available in all standard models of USP and is standard on P2000 and P2000SK pistols


it 9 since version 8 is not imported to the US......

Miku
11-19-2006, 14:26
V7 is a DAO. Plain DAO.
LEM is an upgrade/add-on that makes the weapon DAO with much lighter trigger pull. It has an internal hammer which is cocked when racking the slide. It´s held cocked by the sear and when squeezing the trigger, the already partly compressed hammer spring (compressed by the internal hammer) is much lighter to draw back untill the gun fires. It can be installed on all USP frames regardless of the current variant because hte USP is a module/modular weapon. Meaning that it can be changed to all 10 variants (9 to be exact )from all of the existing variants.

1,2,9 and 10 are "cocked and locked" variants.


Miku

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