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Gone Fishing
11-25-2006, 07:31
Just got back fom the range with my 23, opened the case up, removed my 23, cleared the slide, and the slide fell off on the table!!
Much to my surprise, somehow the the slide release is gone, somehow it came loose, out and gone. It was a extended slide release.
This was very disheartening to have my favorite glock fall apart in my hands. What if this happened when I needed it?
Anyone ever had this happen?
:shocked:
I don't see how a slide release extended or not will allow the slide to fall off.
:shocked:
Theirs actually a device that holds the slide on the frame and prevents it from coming off and you have to release it before the take-down procedures. It called guess what ? A slide lock ;)
Bronson7
11-25-2006, 10:45
It's funny how folks will harp on correct nomenclature when the context of the post leaves little doubt about what you're saying, AND THEN, not answer your question. Yes, it's happened to me and it's a cheap easy fix. I didn't know it till the gun was empty and the slide just slid off. The biggest danger is the slide comming off and hitting the concrete, perhaps scratching your baby or damaging the crown. I can't see the slide coming off while actually firing the gun. Glock supposedly has beefed up the spring on either select, or all models. Mine was on a G30.
Bronson7
ryucasta
11-25-2006, 11:01
I'm not saying it didnt happen but how can the slide lock allow the slide to come off without human assistance unless the new slide lock was installed incorrectly. Do you have any pictures of part? Are there any broken parts? Did you disassemble the firearm and not reassemble it correctly?
http://www.lonewolfdist.com/photos/GLO-301.jpg Original Factory Part
http://www.lonewolfdist.com/photos/LWD-ESLL.jpg Aftermarket
Have you checked the slide lock spring? Does the spring provide enough tension to hold the lock in place?
http://www.lonewolfdist.com/photos/GLO-2317.jpg
On a certain run of G23's there was a problem with the slide lock springs breaking which could allow the slide lock to fall out. While shooting you might not notice any difference because as the slide cycles the trigger bar catches the firing pin stopping forward travel of the slide. Without the slide cycling it will come right off the front of the frame when you dry fire it. If it isn't a broken slide lock spring then either it's too weak to retain the slide lock or somehow the slide lock broke. Contact Glock or find an Armorer and they'll probably fix it for free.
T. Harless
11-25-2006, 18:30
Originally posted by Bronson7
It's funny how folks will harp on correct nomenclature when the context of the post leaves little doubt about what you're saying......
Funny how some folks continue to defend using wrong nomenclature...again.
Working on your theory, I should know what Gone Fishing means by a slide release or an extended slide release. It's wrong but I do understand. We'd call it a Slide stop lever. But that can't be right. That wouldn't be missing or have anything to do with the slide coming off. Thing is, if we say Slide lock from go there's no question. Not using the correct terms is not defendable.
As to the op question, it's a broken Slide lock spring. Fast fix with the part. I'd buy spares.
ditto, and when he mention extended-slide release, it really made no sense.
And to anser the questions
No anwere for the 1st one and Nope for the second one .
Steve Koski
11-25-2006, 19:56
Broken slide lock spring. I've had it happen. I now own spare springs and spare slide locks. A fairly common Glock parts breakage, if you can call it common.
I wonder if he installed the extended one backwards...
oldironman
11-25-2006, 23:13
I just don't understand all the hoop-la about proper names. If someone uses the wrong name, all someone needs to do is politely let them know the correct term. Let me say that I ain't jabbing at anyone, because it didn't seem to me that noway was giving him a hard time in the first place. I am speaking about the practice in general of getting snooty about terminology. I have heard of salesmen ignoring a customer because the customer pointed at a magazine and asked for a clip. Like the salesman has such a perfect vocabulary that he can't risk being infected by getting the item while he politely lets him know the correct term. When you get to the operating room, I want my brain surgeon to use the correct words. I want my doctor to use the correct name when he writes my prescription. But as serious as guns are, lighten up a bit! Help each other out. Let's not forget who our real enemies are, the anti-gunners. Like I said, I ain't pointing fingers. It was either vent here or kick my dog. Now I have to go to the store to get a box of bullets for my pistol. Or is it a box of ammo for my revolver? I'm Kevin and I just don't know anymore. Of course the correct term is Mark, not Kevin, but who gives a flip. Later,
I once put my "slide release" in wrong. It caused my "clip" to fall out while I was shooting. I thought it was caused by the "firing pin". There did I cover most of the incorrect words. Some folk on this Forum are just a bit too anal. We all know what Gone Fishing was referring to.
If you want to call it a slide release do so. What does it do? It releases the slide or it stops the slide you pick. Both are correct.
Originally posted by Joe D
I thought it was caused by the "firing pin".
The correct incorrect term is "striker." I personally couldn't care less what everyone calls the bits and pieces in a Glock. If anything, I want to get a parts list in German, and then jump down the throat of anyone who is ignorant enough to name the parts in English.
Originally posted by Bronson7
The biggest danger is the slide comming off and hitting the concrete, perhaps scratching your baby or damaging the crown. I can't see the slide coming off while actually firing the gun. Glock supposedly has beefed up the spring on either select, or all models.
Bronson7
+1
http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/g19_topless.html
T. Harless
11-26-2006, 19:54
Originally posted by Keoking
The correct incorrect term is "striker." I personally couldn't care less what everyone calls the bits and pieces in a Glock. If anything, I want to get a parts list in German, and then jump down the throat of anyone who is ignorant enough to name the parts in English.
I always get a kick out of the folks trying to defend that ignorant and/or arrogant logic. It's either a matter of they're being unwilling or unable to commit to memory the 34 (5 in the mag) component parts of what you're discussing in a Glock specific forum.
If you say that doodad you mash to take the slide off, that's a hell of a lot clearer than repeatedly, in error, referring to it as the Slide release.
Again, trying to defend the position against correct nomenclature is well...just stupid.
oldironman
11-26-2006, 20:47
Originally posted by T. Harless
I always get a kick out of the folks trying to defend that ignorant and/or arrogant logic. It's either a matter of they're being unwilling or unable to commit to memory the 34 (5 in the mag) component parts of what you're discussing in a Glock specific forum.
If you say that doodad you mash to take the slide off, that's a hell of a lot clearer than repeatedly, in error, referring to it as the Slide release.
Again, trying to defend the position against correct nomenclature is well...just stupid.
I apologize for what I was about to say. I started to say that it is ignorant and/or arrogant to claim we were defending that position when all we were saying was that it didn't really bother us that much. We just politely correct someone and move on. Sometimes you need to let somone know what the correct terms are, and sometimes, like in your post (which would recieve an F if it were turned in to an english teacher), it isn't really a big deal when you are among friends. Then I got to thinking about a story I heard about a guy who was born with a corncob up his arse and he couldn't help feeling that same way, so I decided not to say all that. But I do apologize for thinking it.
T. Harless
11-26-2006, 20:58
That's ok. Thankfully I'm not going for a grade. I do try to gently sway newbies. It's the folks that should know better that I'm after.
Gone Fishing
11-27-2006, 15:12
Obviously you must be very careful with everything you say on here since we have so many English teachers here.
What I meant was:
dat sticky out thang that ya have to squez tu remuv dat lung blck heevy thang dat muvs bac an furth, dat da thang dat felled out"
There, now I feel more better, it was a broken slide spring, and once they break the tension is off the slide release, it can then fall out the side and then the slide will virtually fall off, which it did. It was just the first time that had ever happened in all my times with a Glock, did not ecpect it.
Got it fixed the next day at a gun show. Thanks for all the wonderful advice.
T. Harless
11-27-2006, 16:44
Originally posted by Gone Fishing
.....There, now I feel more better, it was a broken slide spring, and once they break the tension is off the slide release, it can then fall out the side and then the slide will virtually fall off......
No it wasn't. You really haven't paid attention at all have you?
gary newport
11-27-2006, 18:15
According to my Glock manual, the Part That Broke may also be correctly referred to as a "Ressort pour le curseur de verrouillage" and the Part That Went Missing is properly called a "Curseur de verrouillage". Calling the Part That Went Missing a "slide release" is, however not correct and is likely to cause confusion as that incorrect term is often applied to yet another part, the "Arretoir de culasse", incorrectly. ;)
T. Harless
11-27-2006, 18:20
Originally posted by gary newport
According to my Glock manual, the Part That Broke may also be correctly referred to as a "Ressort pour le curseur de verrouillage" and the Part That Went Missing is properly called a "Curseur de verrouillage". Calling the Part That Went Missing a "slide release" is, however not correct and is likely to cause confusion as that incorrect term is often applied to yet another part, the "Arretoir de culasse", incorrectly. ;)
Damn that's sexy Gary.
I must be a mind reader. I knew exactly what Gone Fishing was referring to.
BTW who determined that "slide release" was incorrect? When I look in my Brownells catalog it is listed as a slide release. Hmmmmmm Brownells has been around a lot longer than Glock. Perhaps it really is a slide release.
I declare that from this point on the thing that lets the slide go forward will be called a slide release. When it locks back the slide it will be called a slide stop.
gary newport
11-27-2006, 19:38
Originally posted by Joe D
I must be a mind reader. I knew exactly what Gone Fishing was referring to.
BTW who determined that "slide release" was incorrect? When I look in my Brownells catalog it is listed as a slide release. Hmmmmmm Brownells has been around a lot longer than Glock. Perhaps it really is a slide release.
I declare that from this point on the thing that lets the slide go forward will be called a slide release. When it locks back the slide it will be called a slide stop.
Best go back to mind-reading school, Joe. Gone was NOT referring to the thing that lets the slide go forward OR the thing that locks the slide back! He was referring to the thing which "locks" the slide on the frame -- the dohickey one presses down to field-strip a Glock.
{According to my Glock manual, the Part That Broke may also be correctly referred to as a "Ressort pour le curseur de verrouillage" and the Part That Went Missing is properly called a "Curseur de verrouillage". Calling the Part That Went Missing a "slide release" is, however not correct and is likely to cause confusion as that incorrect term is often applied to yet another part, the "Arretoir de culasse", incorrectly.}
merci bien de votre aide
btw,
{I must be a mind reader. I knew exactly what Gone Fishing was referring to.
BTW who determined that "slide release" was incorrect? When I look in my Brownells catalog it is listed as a slide release. Hmmmmmm Brownells has been around a lot longer than Glock. Perhaps it really is a slide release.
I declare that from this point on the thing that lets the slide go forward will be called a slide release. When it locks back the slide it will be called a slide stop.}
Great for you on mind reading, my mind reading skills are up to par as yours,
:hugs:
also we should rely on the glock manual from GLOCK and not brownells or any other gun supplier of parts no matter who long they have been around.
If you called glock and told them you needed a slide-release you would get part #27 which has nothing todo with the slide coming off the frame in a correctly assemble glock.
The part that holds the slide to the frame is #21 and with a spring #20 known as slide lock and spring.
oldironman
11-27-2006, 23:59
Obviously we need to let Glock know they need to rename part 21 and 20 as the slide block and slide block spring, and rename part 27 as the slide lock/release lever. Part 2 (barrel) should be the flame thrower, and part 26 (trigger) should be called the bullet release.
The whole time I thought he was talking about the whatchamacallit. Not the dumaflachet.
gary newport
11-28-2006, 09:37
Originally posted by Joe D
The whole time I thought he was talking about the whatchamacallit. Not the dumaflachet.
:thumbsup: That's why correct terminology is important; if we all call a thingamajig a thingamajig, folks will know we MEAN a thingamajig and NOT a dumaflachet! :supergrin:
Glock-N-Fun
11-28-2006, 10:56
Joe,
You've got a good point,the "slide lock" is also a "slide release",maybe we could refer to the slide lock as the "forward slide release",and the slide stop as the "rearward slide release",hahahahahahahaha!
Originally posted by Joe D
I must be a mind reader. I knew exactly what Gone Fishing was referring to.
BTW who determined that "slide release" was incorrect? When I look in my Brownells catalog it is listed as a slide release. Hmmmmmm Brownells has been around a lot longer than Glock. Perhaps it really is a slide release.
I declare that from this point on the thing that lets the slide go forward will be called a slide release. When it locks back the slide it will be called a slide stop.
Gaston created it, he gets to name it.
:deadhorse: :brickwall:
Geez! Would someone please lock this thread! Sheesh!
T. Harless
12-16-2006, 12:37
Originally posted by Delta-x
:deadhorse: :brickwall:
Geez! Would someone please lock this thread! Sheesh!
Did you happen to notice that the post before yours was more than two weeks old? You just bumped the dead horse back to the top. :thumbsup:
To answer the orignal question, only a couple things could have happened that I know of. The slide stop broke and fell out, the spring broke letting tension of the slide stop allowing it to fall out. Or the slide stop was incorrectly installed.
It is a quick and easy fix. If you don't have the parts go to glockparts.com and order a new one. If you need help installing it PM me and I would be happy to call or email, and help you get it back up and running.
Corey
Steve Koski
12-16-2006, 15:06
This thread is still alive? Wow.
Originally posted by Steve Koski
This thread is still alive? Wow.
Sorry guys....:sorry:
Originally posted by Sikhed
I wonder if he installed the extended one backwards...
My first thought too, if the spring was not broken.
Amazing, you can always find what you need with a search.
Diagrams, photographs, explanations, and a laugh too.
Is it possible to do without a 3/32 punch? I don't own one
T. Harless
01-15-2007, 17:25
Originally posted by Ian
Amazing, you can always find what you need with a search.
Diagrams, photographs, explanations, and a laugh too.
Is it possible to do without a 3/32 punch? I don't own one
After you've chucked out the whopping $6 for the Glock tool and waiting for UPS, cut a 4"ish chunk of stout wire cloths hanger. Will do the job just fine. I bent a loop on the end of a key length piece and carry it on my keychain.
Originally posted by Sikhed
I wonder if he installed the extended one backwards...
That's my guess it's easy enough to do....
killnbucks
01-16-2007, 17:11
The slide release is held in place by the largest Pin on the Gun. It's spring is held in tension by the second largest pin in the gun.
Bottom line... You or someone else played with the gun by removing at least one of the above mentioned pins and you screwed up when you put it back together!!!
Now go see someone (gunsmith or Glock Armorer) that knows what they are doing and have them check the gun for damage and reinstall a new slide stop.
And the nominees for "Longest Running Thread After Resolution of the Original Problem" are:
Gunsmithing > Glock fell apart
Bump for a thread that deserves to be at the top :animlol: :rofl: :tongueout:
BexarWolf
01-17-2007, 13:55
Two pages in the gunsmithing thread to tell a guy he broke the spring on his thing? For a second I thought I was in CI.
:shocked:
BustedFlush
03-31-2007, 21:14
Tagged for future reference.
slide lock stop release thingy broke, slide fell off :banana:
Corrective Action - use correct nomenclature on GT or take to armorer at the gun show. ;)
T. Harless
03-31-2007, 21:32
While I agree, and you know I do, you've hopped in the Way-Back machine for this thread.
BustedFlush
04-01-2007, 14:56
Originally posted by T. Harless
While I agree, and you know I do, you've hopped in the Way-Back machine for this thread. Yep, I did, but only a couple of month. I'm back now. :beer:
It is just as pertinent today as the day the man's slide fell off. ;)
T. Harless
04-01-2007, 15:05
1st of the month BF. Time to get that prescription refilled. :)
Originally posted by Keoking
The correct incorrect term is "striker." I personally couldn't care less what everyone calls the bits and pieces in a Glock. If anything, I want to get a parts list in German, and then jump down the throat of anyone who is ignorant enough to name the parts in English.
Glock calls it a firing pin, so I'll call it a firing pin.
Originally posted by Delta-x
:deadhorse: :brickwall:
Geez! Would someone please lock this thread! Sheesh!
Sure...
;)
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