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GIXXER PILOT
11-28-2006, 10:50
Hello all.
ben shooting federal american eagle through my 21 mostly.and it shoots great.ran down to wally word yesterday morning because i was out of ammo.all they had was the winchester 100 pack white box.so i bought 2 boxes and took off to the range.loaded up the mag and started shootin.could not hit the broad side of a barn with it.at 15 yrds i could not keep all my shots in a 3 inch orange dot.my 1911 shot it just fine.anyone else shooting the winchester white box.if so how does it shoot in your 21.
Regards.
Doug
What's the cost of that WWB 100 pack in .45? Just curious so I can see how much I'm saving on my cast .45 reloads.
GIXXER PILOT
11-28-2006, 12:02
Tax and all about 22 bucks.per box.your shooting lead through your glock??.
Powder Monkey
11-28-2006, 12:10
Never noticed a difference in accuracy with my G21 when using WWB. So far, it's consumed WWB, Hornady, American Eagle, Remington, and Federal; in varying weights and speeds with equal gusto and consistent results. ...Limp wristing? :supergrin: Sorry. couldn't resist.
Arc Angel
11-28-2006, 13:25
How could shooting the filthiest ammo in the world through your G-21 affect your ability to hit the target? Were you blinded by clouds of dirty black smoke? :supergrin:
Seriously, though, I think you were a lot better off with the American Eagle. Most of the time I use this as well as aluminum CCI Blazer, and Remington/UMC (green box). It, all, goes into the same 6" pie plates; and, with my big Meprolight night sights, I really couldn't tell you which brand has the greater pinpoint accuracy?
Many times your shooting will go off when you're tired or have just been shooting for too long. You'll let your grip slip, start flinching, or slapping the trigger without really noticing. It happens! The cure? Rest awhile, call it quits and come back another day, or take a break and do a little dry firing.
If you insist on continuing to shoot, then, I'd suggest slipping a few snap caps into your magazines, mix them up with your eyes closed, and then continue shooting with these magazines loaded in an unknown, random, order. (Except for limp wristing - which I doubt in your case - you'll quickly discover what's going wrong.) ;)
'Dbotos' didn't say whether or not he's using a button-rifled aftermarket barrel; but this is, afterall, the internet; and there are shooters, out there, who'll fire cast lead through a hammer-forged Glock barrel. (To be perfectly honest, I often use Berry Manufacturing's plated bullets loaded over moderate charges of Alliant Red Dot in my own G-21's.)
Typical, 16 yard, CCI Blazer performance:
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h39/Me_2U/Typical16yardRapid.jpg
PS: I've heard that Lone Wolf has new conventionally-rifled Glock Model G-21 barrels for less than $100. I'm waiting to see what other Glock owners think of these new barrels. If you shoot a lot, cast lead bullets can represent a big savings. (You'll get the cost of that new barrel back in a few short months!) :)
GIXXER PILOT
11-28-2006, 15:08
Thats about what my target looked like useing the winchester.only my shots were more in the center of the target.with federal ball i can keep my shots all in a 2inch hole.usually right in the bull.this is the only glock i have with stock plastic sites.that could be makeing things worse.so i ordered some new ameriglo site this morning.its the same as the classic only the dots glo for up to six hours after they have ben in the light.white dots during the day that turn green as it gets dark.if there not glowing at all hit em with a flashlight for 15 seconds and they will glow again for approx 6 more hours before fadeing out.and supposedly they never wear out.there not on ameriglos web site yet.but you can order them.they are around 45 bucks.
Originally posted by GIXXER PILOT
Tax and all about 22 bucks.per box.your shooting lead through your glock??.
Ouch. I can reload cast lead .45 rounds for <$3/100 (assuming free lead and brass). Haven't gotten my 21 yet, but am shooting lead through my 19 with an aftermarket barrel.
Arc Angel
11-29-2006, 06:13
Originally posted by GIXXER PILOT
Thats about what my target looked like useing the winchester.only my shots were more in the center of the target.with federal ball I can keep my shots all in a 2inch hole.usually right in the bull ... .
:) I hear ya; and I can do that too with just about any ammunition - including Winchester, 'white box'! The above targets were shot very quickly while I did my best to hold the front sight down for the shortest possible period of time. In my old age, straight postal shooting bores the dickens out of me. After years of: PPC, IDPA, and Action Pistol shooting, I'm psychologically unable to just stand there and precisely tap out rounds one at a time. Sure, the targets look good; but who cares?
Good luck with the new Ameriglo's - Sounds like a decent night sight. ;)
i use it all the time no problems.
army_eod
12-14-2006, 05:56
Try some Miwall JHPs. Cheap and great.
Mine shoots it fine, the older stuff I heard used brass jackets and would have accuracy issues in a factory glock barrel. current stuff is copper and seems to shoot fine.
jb241970
01-02-2007, 13:06
Other than it being some dirty ****, i've shot pretty damn accurately with my 21 and WWB. When it comes to practice ammo, that's pretty much all I shoot. You can't beat the price from walmart.
ToxicPelican
01-02-2007, 13:41
mine digests it just fine. as far as accuracy, eh it seems i do a bit worse with it? but i have no idea if thats accurate or if its just my shooting. oh well, cant beat the price most days
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