Is the .357 Sig best in the winter....

[TLHelmer]

because people wear heavier clothing in the winter? It seems that the higher velocities would help expansion in heavier clothing.

[G33]

In theory.
Bullet design is also a factor.
Gold Dots or XTPs across many calibers are a good choice.
IMHO

:supergrin:

[shotokit]

Originally posted by G33

Gold Dots or XTPs across many calibers are a good choice.
IMHO

:supergrin:
+1 :thumbsup:

[TLHelmer]

I remember a thread in this club that said the Gold-Dot was the best designed bullet for the .357 Sig. I realize it is not that concrete, but I cant believe it would be a mistake to go with the gold-dot.

[Ginny]

Yup. That's what I'm packin' ... just got 500 rounds from Ammoman.com

LUV 'EM! :hearts:

[spcwes]

Well some may argue but I love several different bullet designs and the Gold Dot is the most reliable performer and that covers weight retention, expansion and penetration. It does so in my gel and animal testing better than all the others. Now I have not tested some of the new bonded loadings so I won't talk bad about them yet but Gold Dot is a great design.

I am not sure that the velocity of the 357sig will assist in the expansion by impact of the clothing. It will assist in penetration over all and will expand quicker after impact of flesh than a slower moving projectile.

That is one of the things over looked by many in regards to ammo that is faster, it expands quicker during the penetration process so the bullet is expanded for more of the total depth of penetration. I feel that is a plus if it still penetrates to the desired depth which the 125gr gold dot does.

[TLHelmer]

Thanks for your responses!

[DonGlock26]

125gr. Golddots for me in my P229. :thumbsup:

[sneakyracer]

Why not use FMJ. Those flat point bullets hitting bone at 1300+ fps should be pretty devastating.

[jstforme]

ive seen an fbi study on every caliber in every load with just about every manufacturer and thier whole line of loads. in clothed gelatin studies, slow heavy bullets far exceeded fast light loads. (please dont ask me for the link, my computer crashed and dont have it)

[sneakyracer]

Im currently using Corbon DPX, it has excellent penetration. But if I found Speer GD il use it too.

DPX just defies the norm because it isnt made of lead, instead its copper. So even though it has 125gr it has a larger sectional density than a similar lead bullet because copper has about 80% the density of lead but its much harder.

[spcwes]

Originally posted by jstforme
ive seen an fbi study on every caliber in every load with just about every manufacturer and thier whole line of loads. in clothed gelatin studies, slow heavy bullets far exceeded fast light loads. (please dont ask me for the link, my computer crashed and dont have it)

The super hot 125gr Gold Dot loads from Double Tap Ammo as well as their super hot 230gr HP loads surpase the penetration of the standard heavy slow loads. There is a point where what you say is so but normally it is after the slow heavy bullet hits flesh, not clothing.

Some hollow points have actually become packed with clothing materail and acted like a FMJ and over penetrated.

The 125gr load will work just fine for winter or summer, no worries especially if you use good ammo such as some of the bonded HP designs.

[jgamble]

Originally posted by jstforme
ive seen an fbi study on every caliber in every load with just about every manufacturer and thier whole line of loads. in clothed gelatin studies, slow heavy bullets far exceeded fast light loads. (please dont ask me for the link, my computer crashed and dont have it)

Ok... it's several days later, so... do you have the link? I'm wanting to check out a variety of ammunition over a couple different calibers and I'd like to take a look at some reviews and data.

[Aeroscoper]

That is one of the things over looked by many in regards to ammo that is faster, it expands quicker during the penetration process so the bullet is expanded for more of the total depth of penetration. I feel that is a plus if it still penetrates to the desired depth which the 125gr gold dot does.


Great point!

Hypothetically speaking, if a slower 9mm enters the body and expands after say, 4 inches to 12 inches, and the Sig round expands after one inch to 12 inches, it would seem logical that there would be a differing affects.

Was intending to bring this up sometime, but it's not worth it.