Not really a Mak, but.....

[epsylum]

I picked up a CZ-82 in 9x18 Mak today. I paid $239 for it with holster, 2 mags, cleaning rod, and a lanyard. It will keep my Bulgie company.

This thing is SWEET. The trigger is freaking amazing for such an affordable gun. The SA is light and crisp (after the initial takeup) and the DA is very smooth. It can be carried traditional DA/SA or cocked and locked with an ambi frame mounted safety. The best part is it holds 12+1 of 9x18. It is bigger than a mak, but not by much. I think I found a new beater carry gun.

:banana: :banana:

[Banker Billy]

Yep - - - they are SWEET ! ! !

Picked one up about six weeks ago. Mine appeared to be NEW in every way -- maybe "unfired" ! Can with an extra mag, cleaning rod and new holster. Paid a grand total of $260 out-the-door.

Took it to the range and fired approx 60-70 rounds. Ran perfect with HP and ball ammo.

Doubt it will ever be fired again -- looks like I just got another SafeQueen . . .:hugs:

[epsylum]

Originally posted by Banker Billy
Yep - - - they are SWEET ! ! !

Picked one up about six weeks ago. Mine appeared to be NEW in every way -- maybe "unfired" ! Can with an extra mag, cleaning rod and new holster. Paid a grand total of $260 out-the-door.

Took it to the range and fired approx 60-70 rounds. Ran perfect with HP and ball ammo.

Doubt it will ever be fired again -- looks like I just got another SafeQueen . . .:hugs:

Mine is definately not "new". It has holster wear and the finish is rubbing off from the second mag and such rubbing on it in its holster. Oh well, my Mak and CZ-52 were not new either when I bought them and I still like them.

[M2 Carbine]

Some time back I bought a new CZ83 form makarov.com.
I just shot it a few times. It was acting up feeding hollow points and it shoots pretty high in the 20-50 yard range.

Recently I've been shooting smaller carry type guns at 100 yards and shot the Makarov last week. I remembered the CZ83 a couple days ago and thought I'd give it a try.

The shooting high is an asset because at 100 yards as I can aim center on the silhouette. The gun did pretty good for the first try and my less than steady hand that day.

All shots were on the paper but I missed the silhouette 8 of 40 shots.
That's better than my first Russian Makarov target but the second Makarov target had 7 misses in 36 shots.

It looks like either the Makarov or CZ83 (82) is capable of making a good showing at 100 yards.:)

CZ83
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/Bell406_206B/100yardsCZ83.jpg

[Mak Maven]

Love my cz82. Eats hp and fmj no jams of any sort 200 rounds shot so far.
All siver bear hp 95, and barnaul 95 fmj no problems. Will try sb 115 hp next at range.
Darn thing is accurate.
I thought my bulgy was good, but this thing is better.

[RMTactical]

I've been interested in getting one...

[epsylum]

Well I shot it and I have mixed feelings.

I shot nothing but Silver Bear 95gr. JHP. It would not go all the way back into battery about every other shot. It would be out by about half an inch or so. The round would be in the chamber but just not all the way in. A light push on the back of the slide and it would go back into battery and fire.

Secondly I noticed the rear sight, while set dead on, is stick off the right end of the slide by a good bit. Enough that it looks really odd when trying to get a good sight picture.

Third, my thumb kept getting bitted by something while firing. After changing my grip several times to try and cure it, I found out that it is the back part of the safety that forms the beavertail. The edge of that is pintching the top of my thumb under recoil. Changing to a curled thumbs grip did help as my thumb did not ride so close to it as it does with a thumbs forward grip.

I plan to keep it and if I could just get the not going into battery thing fixed, I can look over or adjust to the other issues.

Accuracy was good though.

[M2 Carbine]

I'd suggest that since it is a used gun the first thing is to get a new recoil spring. I recommend that everyone that buys a used "military" pistol replace the recoil spring.

The back of my safety is cut off at about a 45 degree angle. Maybe that's a change on the CZ83 due to what you are talking about.
You can see it in this picture.

The rear sight is wider than the slide to begin with so I can see that it would look like crap if it was moved. I wouldn't mind putting an adjustable rear sight on mine because it shoots too high close up (25 yards).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/Bell406_206B/CZ839x18.jpg

[epsylum]

Originally posted by M2 Carbine
I'd suggest that since it is a used gun the first thing is to get a new recoil spring. I recommend that everyone that buys a used "military" pistol replace the recoil spring.

The back of my safety is cut off at about a 45 degree angle. Maybe that's a change on the CZ83 due to what you are talking about.
You can see it in this picture.

The rear sight is wider than the slide to begin with so I can see that it would look like crap if it was moved. I wouldn't mind putting an adjustable rear sight on mine because it shoots too high close up (25 yards).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/Bell406_206B/CZ839x18.jpg

Well I checked and a Makarov spring will not fit the 82/83. Any ideas where to get a new recoil spring for it?

The part of the safety I am talking about is the very back part of the lever. The pin in the beavertail in your pic is where the safety hinges if you look at it closely. The edge of the safety lever back there is what is pinching me.

[M2 Carbine]

Try Wolf for the spring. They make springs for about everything.

I can see what you mean about the safety. I guess that's why they changed it on the 83.
Is there any way to round the edges that are bothering you and putting a little cold blue on it?

As I recall my 83 also gave me a little problem, like yours, with chambering. No problem now after a little shooting and polishing the feed ramp.

Could be that your 82 was carried a lot but shot little and just needs breaking in.

[Parisite]

When I had my CZ-82 I ordered a recoil spring from CZ-USA, real cheap like about three bucks as best I remember. The thought has crossed my mind about getting another one since they are cheaper and can be found in better condition now. The reason I let mine go is because it simply wouldn't function with Wolf ammo and I can't stand a finicky gun.

[chesster]

In had an early 83 but let it go cause it would not reliably feed FMJ .380 and it was early in the mag ban so high caps were rare and expensive. I recently picked up an 82 at a bargain price on auction and it feeds all the varieties I have on hand, Norinco, S&B commercial and military, several Russians, and some Hungarian. It feed a mag of the Russ JHP, but, I usually carry a CorBon up the spout and ball in the mag if used for defense.

[amd65]

I've had a CZ82 for over a year now. It too had problems with Wolf, and several others have mentioned the same problem--namely, the round stops halfway into the chamber. In mine and others, it seems as if the round gets caught going under the extractor--seems the rim is slightly thicker. This hasn't happened to me with any other ammo. No big deal for me, as I don't like Wolf mak ammo anyway. I've heard too many accounts of squib loads with wolf mak ammo.
I much prefer Fiocchi and S&B for my FMJ loads. I also have had no problems with Silver Bear 115gn and 95gn JHP's or Hornady.
My CZ82 is one of the most accurate pistols I own. One hole groups at 25 yards, no elevation problems as mentioned by M2.
If you must shoot Wolf, I imagine some light stoning of the extractor hook would cure the problem.
The CZ82/83 is one of the best small autos made, when you add up it's sights, trigger, size, and mag capacity.
Don't know about the safety chewing your thumb, I haven't had that problem. I find the CZ grip fits my hand very well, very comfortable to shoot.