g20/10 mm crimson trace laser

[Skeezer]

Can anyone tell me if crimson trace will be coming out with or already make a laser for my g-20

Also, having hard time finding ammo in 10mm, any sugestions

[RayB]

Apparently, no. There has also been demand for a CT model to fit G20's brother--G21.

Why not email the OEM and ask if something's coming?

As for ammo, all I could find for practice ammo locally was CCI Blazer 180 Gr FMJ at Sportsman's Warehouse for $17.99/50

The best "value" on line was currently Double Tap's Practice Loads at $18.95/50...

http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/catalog/index.php

I ordered DT's specially priced 10 mm variety pack, and grabbed a couple boxes of the CCIs at the store. I can hardly wait to try the DT 1600 FPS JHPs!

--Ray

[Skeezer]

CT contacted me, said they have received alot of requests for a laser on g20/g21. Every quarter the engineer team gets together and discusses future models. If it is to come out, it would be at least a year or more. They recommended buying a different gun or outfitting another one already in my gun case!

[RayB]

Originally posted by Skeezer
CT contacted me... They recommended buying a different gun or outfitting another one already in my gun case!

:animlol: That certainly is parochial advice!

:cheerleader: A singular mindset--one mantra; unusual these days! ;)



--Ray

[G20-IWB24/7]

Originally posted by Skeezer
Can anyone tell me if crimson trace will be coming out with or already make a laser for my g-20


Depending on how new your G20 is, there might be a CTC lasergrip out there that will work. I have an earlier 3rd Generation G20 and the LG-617 (ones designed for the full size 17/22/31) will work. I know this because my G20 has been wearing a set since April of this year. They work great. Ask Crimson Trace when the "subtle changes" took place on the 3rd Gen G20/21 recently to see if your serial number is in the group that could use them!

[gwhuntr]

There was a post a week or two ago from a CTC-Man (I think) who said they used to fit the G20 & G21 until somewhere in the H series when GLOCK slightly moved the pin hole in the grip to accomodate the Internal Locking System.
Maybe do a search on this if ya like.

[Team CTC-Joe]

Here is a link to the story behind the Glock-20/21.

I hope this helps.

http://www.glocktalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=627527&highlight=Crimson

[BLS439]

Originally posted by Team CTC-Joe
Here is a link to the story behind the Glock-20/21.

I hope this helps.

http://www.glocktalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=627527&highlight=Crimson

Here's what I dont understand and not to be critical, but it's an honest question. If the pin hole moved, doesn't CTC just need to add some material or move the pin location in their design? Is that really going to take one year of work to do?

Also, the letter is a bit of a turn off from purchasing CTC equipment. Especially if someone really got the response "Buy a different gun or outfit it with a different laser". That's not a good solution from a customer service standpoint.

I don't know. I own a G30 and G21. I was contemplating the CTC, but knowing it's not available for the 21 for a long time I may just go with the better (more competatively priced) TLR2. I think I could get a new duty holster to fit weapon and tac light, 50 rnds of ammo, and the TLR2 for the MSRP of the CTC laser.

Hmmm....?

[Team CTC-Joe]

While on the surface it might just seem as easy as just "add(ing) some material" to fix, there are many things that unless you come from a manufacturing background may not be readily appearant.

-You can't just change you design for the new framed Glock-20/21 H series guns or you will no longer fit the G-17,17L, 22, 24, 31, 34, 35, 37. The Company wouuld need to make a brand new tool that will fit only the G-20/21 in the H and beyond series. (this would be at a huge loss, investment to projected sales)

-Now you will have 2 SKU for the same gun. Guess how many people will buy, or be given the wrong SKU for their gun and try to install it... potentially damaging the gun and/or Lasergrip. Guess who they call when they do that? (loss of money to replace guns and grips and hard earned customer confidence)

All this assumes that Glock will not change their frame again.. (which they have done many times)

As a company, it does not make good sense, at this time, to add a product that will cost more to make than you will sell, could cause your customers to damage the product or their guns, and may be obsolete at any time due to factors outside your control.

Sometimes it is better to observe, forecast, plan and insure that you are doing right by your customers and will never take any action that could shake their faith in you.

It's a fair question, I hope this helps you understand why I don't have a Lasergrip for your H series and above, G-20 today...

Joe

[RayB]

Originally posted by Team CTC-Joe
While on the surface it might just seem as easy as just "add(ing) some material" to fix, there are many things that unless you come from a manufacturing background may not be readily appearant.

-You can't just change you design for the new framed Glock-20/21 H series guns or you will no longer fit the G-17,17L, 22, 24, 31, 34, 35, 37. The Company wouuld need to make a brand new tool that will fit only the G-20/21 in the H and beyond series. (this would be at a huge loss, investment to projected sales)

-Now you will have 2 SKU for the same gun. Guess how many people will buy, or be given the wrong SKU for their gun and try to install it... potentially damaging the gun and/or Lasergrip. Guess who they call when they do that? (loss of money to replace guns and grips and hard earned customer confidence)

All this assumes that Glock will not change their frame again.. (which they have done many times)

As a company, it does not make good sense, at this time, to add a product that will cost more to make than you will sell, could cause your customers to damage the product or their guns, and may be obsolete at any time due to factors outside your control.

Sometimes it is better to observe, forecast, plan and insure that you are doing right by your customers and will never take any action that could shake their faith in you.

It's a fair question, I hope this helps you understand why I don't have a Lasergrip for your H series and above, G-20 today...

Joe


It's a fact of life and not an unreasonable position.

In my line of work I will occasionally turn down jobs that amount to nothing more than an opportunity to break-even, or lose money.

I will decline to work with some products for the same reason.

Anything to please a customer--to a point!

My warranty and reputation are meaningless if I'm out of business in three years...

--Ray

[Skeezer]

Screw it, I will just buy a lasermax. heck with CT

[Greenbean]

I guess I need to try one out at a dealer and see if the holes line up.

[RayB]

I was able to physically examine a Uni-Max by LaserMax last night, and was quite impressed by it!

It mounts on the gun's rail, but incorporates a rail of its own to stack on a light. Pretty slick, if you ask me.

The gun shop's very high on it--and for $189.00, why not?

I'm going to look at this and a TLR-1 for my next purchase.

Here's an early promo pic...

--Ray