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thurn55
12-29-2006, 17:08
Now, before I go out to buy, I'm waiting for the SHOT Show. I want to see what exactly comes out as far as the G21SF and any other .45ACP Glocks.

I am a GAP owner (G37). I love the gun, don't get me wrong, but progress on the round has been too slow for me. I've been having to use certain types of ammo only, if I can even find it. Plus, GAP ammo is habitually more expensive. Since I've been going to the range once every two weeks, or so, I need something a little more cost effective.

I bought my G37 before I bought my Springfield Loaded 1911. I love how the Springfield shoots, so I'm keeping it! Since I have a lot more ACP ammo now for the 1911, I wouldn't have to buy GAP if I had a G21 instead of a G37. I hate having to buy both GAP and ACP when I need them. I only want to buy ACP now... I love the variety of loads!

Question: I met a guy at my local range who put a Wilson barrel in his G21. Now, I like shooting lead bullets and he seems to have no problem shooting lead through his. He mentioned that the barrel was oversized when he got it and had to work on it to fit. Is their a drop-in barrel (from Wilson or anyone else) I could get with no gunsmithing required that I could shoot LRN through?

panzer1
12-29-2006, 18:22
Try Lone wolf distributors they sell alot of things for glock.www.lonewolfdist.com Why do you shoot lead??Do you reload?I have the glock,G21 I like it alot.I have big hands so it fits me well.At the range I shoot WWB its cheeper then anything around.I allso sometimes use wolf ammo(only in my glock)As you already know glocks will eat anything.The G21 is a realy good gun.IMO Good luck.

ColoradoGlocker
12-29-2006, 22:36
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thurn55
12-30-2006, 08:43
I don't only shoot lead. I mostly put FMJ/Ball through the 1911. I do have big (150rd) boxes of Ultramax 230gr LRN, that I've always had good luck with, that I can find cheap.

I have yet to reload. A co-worker of mind reloads .223/.223 Ackley Improved, .22-250, .44 Magnum, 7-30 Waters, etc. He said that if I buy the dies, brass, bullets, etc. I can just use his to reload. I also have 9x19, so I'm willing to do it this way. When I'm more proficient reloading, I'll buy a Dillon press and have-at-it!

Arc Angel
12-31-2006, 00:07
Originally posted by thurn55
I bought my G37 before I bought my Springfield Loaded 1911. I love how the Springfield shoots, so I'm keeping it! Since I have a lot more ACP ammo now for the 1911, I wouldn't have to buy GAP if I had a G21 instead of a G37. I hate having to buy both GAP and ACP when I need them. I only want to buy ACP now... I love the variety of loads!

:shocked: Yipes! Call me old fashioned, or overly cautious; but, I wouldn’t keep two such highly similar - but disparate – rounds together in the same house! I’d be afraid of getting a GAP inadvertently chambered in an ACP!

(Yeah I know, sometimes, it’ll fire.) ;)

Originally posted by thurn55
Question: I met a guy at my local range who put a Wilson barrel in his G21. Now, I like shooting lead bullets and he seems to have no problem shooting lead through his. He mentioned that the barrel was oversized when he got it and had to work on it to fit. Is their a drop-in barrel (from Wilson or anyone else) I could get with no gunsmithing required that I could shoot LRN through?

Any of the broach-cut aftermarket barrels will handle lead: Bar-Sto, Kart, Schumann, Wilson, Lone Wolf, Jarvis – whatever. These barrels can be purchased oversized for custom fitting, partially oversized for minor fitting, or straightforward drop-in. At the present time Lone Wolf has the best deal - at less than $100.00 - for a quality drop-in barrel.

If you should have to do any minor fitting, it ain’t hard to do on a Glock because it’s highly unlikely that you’ll need to touch the barrel lugs – just the barrel hood or, maybe, the vertical sides at the rear of the chamber. (I had to do the left side of the rear lug on one pistol; but it was easy to see that it was rubbing against the lock block.)

The only tools you’ll need are (1) a flat, fine grit, diamond knife sharpener – You can, also, use flat knife sharpening stones. (2) A Dremel tool with several different polishing tips, (wheel and bullet) and (3) Flitz metal polish.

It took me a couple of hours to fit my first Bar-Sto, ‘semi drop-in’ barrel. I held it up to strong sunlight to check after each pass with the file, and spent a lot of time checking and rechecking slide-to-barrel fit. The second barrel took me less than a half hour!

Use the bullet polishing tip to do no more than a 30 second LIGHT POLISH on the feed ramp at the same time. Warning: Do NOT put a high mirror polish on a feed ramp; or one of the first several rounds out of a very clean pistol may stovepipe!

I’d suggest the following precautions:

(1) Never attempt to fit by grinding! Proper fitting is done by hand.
(2) On a Glock, the most common area that requires fitting is the barrel hood.
(3) The second, much less common, area is along the vertical edges at the rear of the chamber. (It’ll be either the hood, or the vertical edges – NOT both.)
(4) Make several light passes with the diamond file; and, then, stop to check.
(5) Daylight, or any kind of light grease will reveal what surfaces are, ‘untrue’.
(6) Tight is good! Stop filing just before you have a perfect fit.
(7) The final check is made with the slide and barrel installed on the frame.
(8) Polishing is next; but, don’t apply heavy hand pressure with the Dremel tool, or hold it over one spot for too long.
(9) Run the tool at about 5,000 rpm; and, let the polish do all the work.
(10) Work barehanded while polishing in order to check for overheating.
(11) As a final safety check, perform a, 'recoil spring strength test' in order to make sure the pistol goes into full battery every time.

It’s true: The Glock design really is very easy to work on as well as to keep in good repair! :thumbsup:

army_eod
12-31-2006, 08:00
Well, if Glock really does bring out a model of the .45ACP with features much to my liking (single stack and slim, but more than 6 rounds) I may just have to pick one up.

Will it then replace the 21???? Probably not as the capacity of the 21 is nice to have.

But a Glock 21 1911 would be nice.

Getting LEO pricing is also hard to beat.

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