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RF7126
01-07-2007, 17:41
I'm hoping you guys can help me out. I searched for this topic, but couldn't find previous replies so if this is a repost I apologize.

I'm trying to get an idea of what the law enforcement specialties in each branch do, and I've had some success with the others, but I can't find almost anything on the Marine MPs. I saw the official line on the website, but can anyone tell me what the daily duties would likely include?

Is it mostly static posts (gates and the like), or is there a lot of moving patrol work? Also, are the MPs likely to be the law enforcement for most naval bases as well, or just Marine bases? Lastly, is the privatization of military law enforcement and security as much of a concern for Marines as for the security specialties in other branches?

Also, I grew up in an Air Force family (extended, not parents) so I have a decent idea of what the USAF Security Forces do. If anyone has done both and can compare/contrast them, that would help me immensely.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

RM
01-08-2007, 07:26
It really depends on if they are part of PMO or part of the MLG MP company. The PMO guys drive around base and do law enforcement. The MLG guys these days mostly do MMSO, or convoy and route security.

Some MPs go on and become correction specialists, some go on and become CID.

RF7126
01-08-2007, 20:58
That sounds like a win-win to me. When I was looking at the Air Force, I was dreading all the static posts so much that convoy security started looking really good by comparison. Thanks for the info.

RF7126
01-13-2007, 05:50
No one else has an opinion on the MPs?

1 old 0311
01-13-2007, 06:32
Originally posted by RF7126
No one else has an opinion on the MPs?

Not from the side you are looking for!

357glocker
01-13-2007, 20:05
I was an MP at Camp Lejeune for @3yrs. I was with HQBN 2nd Marine Division. There were 3 "types" of MP's when I was in the service, baseside MP's (cops), Division and FSSG MP's (field MP's). We spent most of our time in the field and deploying overseas doing convoy security, EPW control, riot control, and base security duties at tent cities. We were thought of as grunts with badges by most Marines or POG's by the grunts! They combined division and FSSG the last I heard. I did spend 4months working with the baseside PMO MP's and spent most of the time standing gate duty although I did road patrol on occasion. I enjoyed doing both sides. In the 4months being a "cop" I dealt with almost everything you'd imagine a police officer to deal with. The best part about being division was deploying. I saw many overseas places that baseside never had the opportunity to do, they stayed at Camp Lejeune. Down in Panama they had us working with the Air Force SP's and Panamanian National Police as the Marines down there felt they did not have to listen to an AF cop. They did things a little different but for the most part it was just like working baseside at Lejeune. They do carry thier M9's without the safety on though! We worked with the Army after we moved to Colzal(sp) on the other side of the canal because the US transfered Howard AFB to the Panamanians and the AF pulled out. I did not like working with the Army MP's. They were all real arrogant towards us and besides they carry unloaded guns and expected us to do the same:upeyes: Not!

pstmstr
01-14-2007, 07:09
It's been a long time but I joined the Marine Corps with an enlistment guarantee to be an MP. I was assigned to the US Disciplinary Barracks at Ft Leavenworth KS as part of an 85 Marine detachment to provide corrections specialists. While it worked out fine, I had envisioned driving around Camp Pendleton CA in my dress blue trousers, white hat, and carrying a handgun. Be careful when you talk to a recruiter and get all the facts. Also, you might want to remember, every Marine is a rifleman first. I wouldn't trade my Marine Corps experience for the world, just be sure you get all the guarantee you can from your recruiter if you decide to join.

RF7126
01-14-2007, 15:37
357glocker and pstmster,
Thanks for the information, it's very good to know. I too envisioned more of a straight law-enforcement role and less of an infantry role, so I appreciate the heads-up on that.

Could either of you tell me more about the field side? Just what I could expect on a routine basis?


Thanks.

pstmstr
01-14-2007, 17:16
I didn't spend much time in the field except on training. Boot camp of 11 weeks, then once a year, we went to the field for training. That, and a physical fitness test once every 3 months, was the extent of it except for guarding, escorting, and chasing prisoners. Not a bad deal, 4 days on, 3 days off, unless something big was going on. Keep in mind, this was 1975-1979, so things have changed considerably since then, especially with Iraq going on.

357glocker
01-15-2007, 19:25
The daily routine for Division MP's when I was in:
Physical Training: Mon, Wed, Fri 0400-0500
S.S.S. and eat breakfast, formation at 0700
do some sort of training, cleaning, packing for upcoming field exercise or deployment. The good thing was that we had every weekend and holiday off unless in the field or deployed in which it was 24/7 go go go. If you want to be able to play cop every now and then and don't mind getting dirty more often then you'd like being a field MP. Baseside we worked the 12hr shifts three on two off or something real similar to that. We switched from days to nights each month.

RF7126
01-17-2007, 12:36
Thanks for the help, this gives me a much better idea of what to expect than the websites. I really appreciate it.

silverado_mick
01-24-2007, 01:04
MP=Multi-Purpose ;)

Seriously, as a 6 year veteran of the MP field, I have served in both garrison and field capacities. I was a F-ing Reservist though, so my experience may differ from you hardfer, more jarhead-like active duty guys. I did two tours in Iraq where the duties were EPW handling, convoy escort, area security, IED interdiction ops and lots and lots of vehicle and foot patrols in and around Ramadi. I have also worked security at the Marine Corps marathon in DC, stood gate on base, worked patrol at Lejune, been to a couple of CAX's, cross trained with Norweigan, Estonian, and South Korean militaries, and filled a ****load of sandbags. I think that just about covers it.

RM
01-24-2007, 19:32
Originally posted by silverado_mick
MP=Multi-Purpose ;)

Seriously, as a 6 year veteran of the MP field, I have served in both garrison and field capacities. I was a F-ing Reservist though, so my experience may differ from you hardfer, more jarhead-like active duty guys. I did two tours in Iraq where the duties were EPW handling, convoy escort, area security, IED interdiction ops and lots and lots of vehicle and foot patrols in and around Ramadi. I have also worked security at the Marine Corps marathon in DC, stood gate on base, worked patrol at Lejune, been to a couple of CAX's, cross trained with Norweigan, Estonian, and South Korean militaries, and filled a ****load of sandbags. I think that just about covers it.

Did you go over with TF MP (1/14) for 5.7.1?

silverado_mick
01-25-2007, 15:17
I was in OIF from Feb-Sept of '03 with CSSB-10 running resupply for 1/7 and 1/5 and after July we were escorting Army fuel convoys from the border to Najaf (Army MP's wouldn't do it "too dangerous").
There again at camp Blue Diamond with H&S BN 1st Marines from June '04 - March '05 doing ECP security, convoy escort, and IED/AIF interdiction patrols around town.

RM
01-25-2007, 17:54
No one in your element from OIF 1 had a call sign of Dagger did they?

silverado_mick
01-26-2007, 05:08
Wasn't my unit, but I remember getting really annoyed at the female "Dagger 1-9" or something like that, cause she tied up air time and didn't know what the hell she was talking about. My truck was "Sidler 1". My platoon was "Sidler" and my CO was "Rooster 6". Our on call mortars were "shake and bake", and I really can't remember any of the other call signs I heard on a regular basis. I do remember "dagger" though, cause I used to roll my eyes every time she would get on the air. Anyway, hope I haven't put my foot too far in my mouth, and any way you look at it, you and I have probably chewed the same sand and eaten the same bugs.

RM
01-26-2007, 07:58
They lit my battery up with 50 cals one night when we were shooting. They saw our muzzle flashes while driving by out side Dywania and start shooting at us thinking they were under fire.

silverado_mick
01-26-2007, 23:50
We were seperated from the CSSB by the time we hit Diwaniya, but that doesn't surprise me a bit. Every time we had to run a convoy with a "Dagger" OIC, we used to draw straws to see who had to go. They were pretty bad to work with. I don't know what unit they were, but their leadership was severely lacking.