M1 Carbines! [Archive]

Bushbacker

01-13-2007, 21:50

Originally posted by Mang Danny
Will the requirements be the same as when purchasing a Garand like membership in a NRA certified gunclub and participation in a match?

You don't have to participate in a match. Other requirements will suffice like having a concealed carry permit:

http://www.odcmp.com/Services/Rifles/eligibility_requirements.htm

h2o-5o

01-14-2007, 07:26

From info on the CMP forum, there are supposedly 32,000 carbines that came back from the lend/lease to Italy. They haven't been looked at yet, don't know what condition they're in, don't have any idea of what pricing/grading will be like (other than $400-$1000 range), and hope to have them available around March 1, 2007.

RMTactical

01-17-2007, 23:31

Excited for these!! :banana:

Dennis in MA

01-30-2007, 23:18

I wonder if any will be folding-stock models. I'd like on or two of those. :)

And I wonder if I can find one of them M1Carbine gatlin gun sets. ;) RATATATATATATATATAAATTATATATATATATAT!!!!! LOL

Joe Tactical

01-31-2007, 15:05

Originally posted by Dennis in MA
I wonder if any will be folding-stock models. I'd like on or two of those. :)

And I wonder if I can find one of them M1Carbine gatlin gun sets. ;) RATATATATATATATATAAATTATATATATATATAT!!!!! LOL

I heard there were no M1A1's. You can check the CMP Forums for this, as I think Orest said so himself. I don't have a link but the threads are good reading.

Rick O'Shay

02-01-2007, 05:17

If there did happen to be a paratrooper stock, it'd most likely be put onto the auction. Those authentic folding stocks are bringing $1,200 to $1,700 on the market, depending on condition.

CMP rifles are sold at market value, but usually the low end of market.

CalGlock

02-07-2007, 04:36

I can't seem to find where to post my M1 Carbine USGI for sale.What section please. I'll post pics once I find it. Thanks, Dennis

Rick O'Shay

02-07-2007, 04:56

Scroll down to the last section on this site. One of the sections is Firearms Listings.

When you fill in the Subject, be sure to list your state of residence, since lots of folks prefer Face-to-Face transactions.

Good luck with your sale.

CalGlock

02-07-2007, 05:03

Thanks:thumbsup:

njl

02-15-2007, 11:38

The odcmp.com site has a sort of update on the carbines. Pictures, and some descriptive info about the two grades that will be available. Still nothing about pricing and availability.

1811guy2

02-15-2007, 17:03

I dunno. If they sell these things for a couple hundred it may be worth it to have as a plinker. Looks like they are a far cry from the original WWII vintage GI M1 Carbines.

MakeMineaP99

02-15-2007, 17:24

Rumor in the forum is these will not be available until April or May and Orest confirmed.

Russ in PA

02-15-2007, 17:51

Originally posted by 1811guy2
I dunno. If they sell these things for a couple hundred it may be worth it to have as a plinker.

I'll bet anything they are sold for close to market value...$600. or more for a decent example. I've bought several rifles from the CMP and have gotten some great deals from there...but that was several years ago.

Bushbacker

02-15-2007, 18:06

Here's an update from another source. Confirmed by the CMP guy:

http://www.jouster.com/cgi-bin/smallbore/smallbore.pl?read=13423

ndbullet500

02-16-2007, 10:08

I also saw that the bolts were shipped apart from the Carbines. The CMP must be having a lot of fun headspacing times ~30 thousand.

Too bad it looks like they have the potbelly stocks. Functionally fine, but I like M1 cabines like I like my supermodels - skinny.

Bushbacker

02-16-2007, 21:47

Here's the latest CMP update (16 Feb.) on the carbines. Read the whole link, very informative:

http://www.odcmp.com/rifles/carbine.htm

1811guy2

02-18-2007, 02:47

Some of those manufacturers are interesting:

Rockola - Manufacturer of jukeboxes
IBM - Computers
National Postal Meter - postal meters

The Rockola gun would be a fun one to have.

njl

02-23-2007, 22:44

Originally posted by 1811guy2
Some of those manufacturers are interesting:

Rockola - Manufacturer of jukeboxes
IBM - Computers
National Postal Meter - postal meters

The Rockola gun would be a fun one to have.

I think I'm going to have to order two. First an Inland, just to make sure I get one (have you noticed the M1 Carbine is actually on the "assault rifles list" in the new AWB proprosed by the crats?). Then an IBM, just because I think it'd be cool to own a rifle made by a computer company (though at the time, I guess they were more of a typewriter company?, as modern computers didn't exist).

BTW, since the CMP won't be selling mags, what mags are good in the M1 Carbine? Is it like ARs where you really want to stick with USGI or are the "aftermarket" ones like Scherer just as good? I assume given the age of the weapon, even USGI ones were steel...unlike AR mags which are aluminum bodies with steel floor plates and springs.

Faulkner

02-24-2007, 09:49

I've been shooting and collecting M1 carbines for 20+ years and find it's best to stick with the USGI magazines. You can't hardly go wrong with the standard USGI 15 round magazines. Lot's of folks like the 'cool' look of the 30 rounders, but they'll be pretty much disappointed with their performance.

I have used after-market 20 round magazines with some success, and they do have the 'cool' factor going for them.

http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL488/1124764/6541000/25534171.jpg

ElevatedThreat

03-10-2007, 20:07

Originally posted by Faulkner
I've been shooting and collecting M1 carbines for 20+ years and find it's best to stick with the USGI magazines. You can't hardly go wrong with the standard USGI 15 round magazines. Lot's of folks like the 'cool' look of the 30 rounders, but they'll be pretty much disappointed with their performance.

The typical 30-rounders with the split-back construction and the flat-blue finish are after-market knock-offs and typically feed very poorly.

If you are lucky enough to find a solid-back 30-rounder with the bright-blue finish, it is likely an original GI 30-rounder, and will feed very well.

Unfortunately, the genuine GI 30-rounders are rare and cost around 100 bucks now.

-ET

njl

03-23-2007, 00:07

They've updated the page with some pricing. The first ones will go for $495 + shipping...which seems pretty good (below what was current going rate AFAIK).

njl

05-09-2007, 22:45

Damn...I guess a few people wanted M1 carbines.

http://www.odcmp.com/images/Carbineordersday15.jpg

http://www.odcmp.com/rifles/carbine.htm

I had thought I'd order one, but I'm not sure now. I may hold out and wait to see how much they ask for IBMs.

ElevatedThreat

05-10-2007, 19:05

Sure hope my order is near top!

I understand they got 3000 orders on the morning of the first day they were accepting them.

I know I timed my order to arrive that morning!

(Actually, 3000 seems low -- ten times that would not have surprised me. The fact that the price was near commercial levels may have limited the orders. But getting one from CMP, and mailed right to my house, was worth it to me. All I want is a shooter.)

-ET

Steve in PA

05-10-2007, 19:42

I got my confirmation email a few days ago. Just have to wait until I get another email saying the order is processing and then the final email saying its been shipped :banana:

njl

05-10-2007, 19:48

I just printed out the forms. I don't know if it's too late now, but based on that number of orders, I suspect if I hold out for an IBM, I'll have to get very lucky to get one.

I may go back to my original plan of getting an Inland now, and then if I can get an IBM, sell the Inland.

I'm kind of bummed that they aren't including/selling magazines. Where can you pick up GI/milspec mags these days?

njl

05-11-2007, 16:44

Well, I figured I shouldn't put my $25 membership fee to GCA to waste, and I can always sell it, but the ability to buy one direct from the government is a very limited time thing...so I went ahead and sent off the paperwork today.

Wasn't the number of carbines supposed to be around 30,000? If they're getting 3000 orders/day, they could already have more orders than carbines...and this will gross about $15M for the CMP/government...whoever gets to keep the $.

ElevatedThreat

05-12-2007, 21:09

Originally posted by njl
Well, I figured I shouldn't put my $25 membership fee to GCA to waste, and I can always sell it, but the ability to buy one direct from the government is a very limited time thing...so I went ahead and sent off the paperwork today.

Wasn't the number of carbines supposed to be around 30,000? If they're getting 3000 orders/day, they could already have more orders than carbines...and this will gross about $15M for the CMP/government...whoever gets to keep the $.

I suspect the bulk of orders hit the first day or two.

However, they have a post up on the CMP website to the effect that it will take them 2 or 3 months to process the orders received to date.

I timed my order to arrive there on the first day, April 30, and I still have not gotten an email confirmation.

So be patient.

(A check of Midway and other internet ammo sites shows that .30 carbine ammo is pretty well cleaned out already, except for the high-dollar premium stuff and the cheap metal-cased Wolf. So somebody out there is obviously planning on shooting some carbines.)

-ET

njl

05-12-2007, 22:29

I think your numbers of orders must be a little high.

Update -10 May, 2007: We estimate the amount of mail orders we have received and expect to receive during the next few weeks for Inland M1 carbines will equal or exceed the amount we can fill over the next few months.

If they were getting 3000 per day, and if there were 30,000 carbines to start with, then they wouldn't expect it to take "several weeks" for orders to exceed the number of Inland carbines available.

ElevatedThreat

05-13-2007, 09:49

Originally posted by njl
I think your numbers of orders must be a little high.

If they were getting 3000 per day, and if there were 30,000 carbines to start with, then they wouldn't expect it to take "several weeks" for orders to exceed the number of Inland carbines available.

It's not the total number of carbines that has been exceeded -- it is their ability to quickly fill the original flood of orders.

They said they got 3000 carbine orders on the first day, from all the anxious people like me who were waiting for the first day to mail in an order.

But of course then the number of orders received per day would drop off drastically. There is no way that orders are pouring in CONSTANTLY at 3000 per day, and I never meant to imply that.

But depending on how much help they have at CMP, I think they are saying that it will take them several months of order-checking, packing, and shipping, to work off even the 3000 or so carbine orders backlogged from orders received that first day.

If their staff is sized to handle the usual daily trickle of orders, keeping up with that normal workload, plus shipping out a backlog of several thousand carbines, will no doubt keep them busy for a good while.

I have no idea how much extra help they can call on to process the initial day-one flood of carbine orders. That's why I am not surprised I have not even gotten a confirmation email yet, for my first-day order.

-ET

njl

05-13-2007, 11:13

I just read on the CMP forum site that they expect to be shipping >=100 carbines per day starting next week. At that rate, I'm probably going to be waiting a few months (assuming they don't run out).

I also read that a number of people tried to game the system by sending multiple orders for single carbines, all postmarked the same day...trying to get around the "one type per person per year" rule.

ElevatedThreat

05-13-2007, 11:52

Originally posted by njl
I also read that a number of people tried to game the system by sending multiple orders for single carbines, all postmarked the same day...trying to get around the "one type per person per year" rule.

Wow -- I would not recommend doing that! The CMP must have decent record keeping, so I'm sure they would not fall for that scam.

I would hope that anyone caught trying that is getting only a lump of coal in their CMP carton, and ZERO carbines!

-ET

njl

05-14-2007, 17:24

Another update. It looks like they expect to have enough orders to run out of Inlands by the end of this week. May 18 is the cutoff date for getting an Inland order in.

ElevatedThreat

05-14-2007, 20:09

Originally posted by njl
Another update. It looks like they expect to have enough orders to run out of Inlands by the end of this week. May 18 is the cutoff date for getting an Inland order in.

Wow -- they went through 15000-30000 Inland carbines that fast?

I just got my confirmation email today -- my order was opened 5/1.

But they did not make any promises as to when I could expect delivery, and basically said "Don't call us -- we'll call you!"

-ET

TexasG23

05-15-2007, 18:13

Mine just showed up on the e-store today as "shipped". No emails other then the "we got your order on 4/30" one. It should be here in the morning!

GlocknSpiehl

05-17-2007, 16:33

i got an email confirmation that my order was received, then another email telling me I forgot to send my passport/proof of citizenship. :sad:

I faxed it to them immediately and got another confirmation that they had everything they needed, but I am not showing anything in my online e-store. Is that normal?

TexasG23

05-17-2007, 17:15

Perfectly normal with this volume of orders. The initial email comes when the paperwork is complete and date-stamped. Then, it goes over to another group for billing and processing and shipping. Check out the CMP forums at http://www.odcmp.com/

Good Luck!

njl

05-17-2007, 17:21

I still don't even know that they've received my order :(

TexasG23

05-17-2007, 18:00

It took them 10 business days :shocked: to send the initial email to those that arrived on 4/30. I have not heard whether they finished the ones from 5/1 yet.

njl

05-22-2007, 23:00

Anyone know of a good source for reasonably priced used GI 15-round mags?

BTW, Aimsurplus has Aguila .30 carbine ammo for $239/1000. I noticed it today, and it seems about as good as it gets these days unless you want steel cased.

GlocknSpiehl

05-23-2007, 08:04

CMP just posted that they are SOLD OUT of the carbines. If you have not ordered you are, unfortunately, SOL.

My order was received on 4/30 and they still have not charged my CC yet. :sad:

njl

05-23-2007, 08:16

They estimate that they're sold out of Inlands...i.e. they have enough orders in-hand, including unopened ones, that they're not accepting any more.

They still have thousands of carbines from the less common manufacturers that will go on sale at some later date (September or perhaps later).

GlocknSpiehl

05-25-2007, 17:42

:sad:

Still waiting for my 2nd email. Maybe next week...

njl

05-25-2007, 17:53

Originally posted by GlocknSpiehl
:sad:

Still waiting for my 2nd email. Maybe next week...

I still haven't gotten a first email and probably won't for weeks.

If there's an opposite to this one, that's what I need here:

:banana:

ElevatedThreat

06-05-2007, 19:07

I just got my second email from CMP! One more and it will be time to head over the local FedEx depot! :)

On the down side, my order for mags and such to Fulton Armory was submitted to their website back on May 1, but has not arrived yet, and my emails asking when it might ship have gone unanswered. :sad:

I doubt that my carbine will be much fun as a single-shot....:shocked:

-ET

njl

06-05-2007, 20:47

Originally posted by ElevatedThreat
I just got my second email from CMP! One more and it will be time to head over the local FedEx depot! :)

On the down side, my order for mags and such to Fulton Armory was submitted to their website back on May 1, but has not arrived yet, and my emails asking when it might ship have gone unanswered. :sad:

I doubt that my carbine will be much fun as a single-shot....:shocked:

-ET

That's ok. I got a delivery of "lightly used USGI mags" today and looks like Rosie and friends must have intercepted it and had a stomp the mag party. Words just can't express how utterly destroyed these mags are. I'm going to be on the phone tomorrow to see what the vendor is willing to do...and if I don't like it, the next call is to the credit card co. to do a chargeback.

Steve in PA

06-05-2007, 20:54

Got mine around 2pm today. Only snapped a couple of quick shots before I disassembled it. More will follow, but here's my M1 Carbine

Stock: M2 Pot belly, low wood, looks like walnut, only marked with s/n
Handguard: 4 rivet, darker finish
Barrel: Inland 12-42
Receiver: Inland, s/n 131xxx, deep hole type
Front Band: Type 3 (stamped with "AMCO"
Bolt: Flat
Magazine Catch: "M"
Safety: Flip style
Rear Sight: adjustable/milled, stamped with "PI"
Front Sight: Stamped with "EU"
Operating Slide: Stamped with "PI"
Hammer: Straight type, stamped with "W"
Trigger Housing: Stamped with "Y"

Stock is dry, bore looks like a mirror with excellent lands and grooves.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/pdea7cab9a5310cf5e63271cf76718b0d/e92f1363.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/pd4619c48052ecb2ad58c1a44e1f8bccc/e92f132d.jpg

njl

06-05-2007, 21:25

Look what the postman brought me today:

Uh oh. Looks like something "happened" to my order.

http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/m1cmags/crushedbox.jpg

Ah, well, some 0000 steel wool and CLP and that'll buff right out, right? :rofl:

http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/m1cmags/crushedmags.jpg

I hope my carbine arrives in more serviceable condition.

sdsnet

06-05-2007, 21:28

What do you need to be able to purchase rifles online ? I saw that someone mentioned faxing proof of citizenship but is there anything else that I need to order a rifle online ?

sdsnet

06-05-2007, 21:29

Originally posted by sdsnet
What do you need to be able to purchase rifles online ? I saw that someone mentioned faxing proof of citizenship but is there anything else that I need to order a rifle online ?

Oops, I just read the answer.

Affirmative. The requirements are on the CMP website. Just join a club online, and show some type of firearms training. That is all it takes, oh, and you must be a US CITIZEN to purchase one.

Steve in PA

06-06-2007, 00:09

Originally posted by njl
Look what the postman brought me today:

Uh oh. Looks like something "happened" to my order.

http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/m1cmags/crushedbox.jpg

Ah, well, some 0000 steel wool and CLP and that'll buff right out, right? :rofl:

http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/m1cmags/crushedmags.jpg

I hope my carbine arrives in more serviceable condition.

Dang!! :shocked:

Looks like someone ran over it

jrs93accord

06-09-2007, 14:16

Received 5/31/07 @ 0910 - '44 Inland M1 Carbine

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/jamesrea_2006/007_7-1.jpg

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/jamesrea_2006/001_1-1.jpg

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/jamesrea_2006/003_3-1.jpg

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/jamesrea_2006/004_4-2.jpg

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/jamesrea_2006/002_2-2.jpg

With its big brothers

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/jamesrea_2006/011_11.jpg

ElevatedThreat

06-10-2007, 17:26

Originally posted by jrs93accord
Received 5/31/07 @ 0910 - '44 Inland M1 Carbine

Very nice!

I got my 3rd email from CMP on Saturday, so I'm expecting delivery of my carbine on Monday or Tuesday. I hope mine is as nice as yours.

By the way, my order was opened at CMP on May 1, so that tells you where CMP stands in working off the backlog of carbine orders....

-ET

njl

06-12-2007, 17:42

I just got my first email today. I've got a long wait for my carbine (August?)...but at least now I know they got my order and it got there in plenty of time to make the Inland cutoff.

a better view

06-13-2007, 14:18

I just received my first email today stating that my order had been received and I need to wait until other orders are processed .

They showed my order date at 5/19. The initial cut off posted for carbines was 5/21 but lower on the page it shows carbines sold out as of 5/18.

Looks like I'm one of those guys on the bubble, waiting and hoping.

njl

06-13-2007, 14:30

Originally posted by a better view
I just received my first email today stating that my order had been received and I need to wait until other orders are processed .

They showed my order date at 5/19. The initial cut off posted for carbines was 5/21 but lower on the page it shows carbines sold out as of 5/18.

Where did they say that (order date at 5/19)?

My email was just (most header lines omitted)

From: Gina Johnson
Subject: CARBINE ORDER

Your Carbine Order has been received. There is nothing we will be able to tell you until we input all orders ahead of yours into our system. You will receive a second email from our order processing department letting you know your order has been processed; and a third email from our packaging/shipping dept with a tracking number for your order/orders.

Your customer ID # is -REMOVED-. This is where all of your information is stored. Thank you and have a great day.

I'd kind of like to know when they did receive my order...not that it really matters. I'm sure I'll be waiting until at least late July, maybe August.

a better view

06-13-2007, 15:15

It was in the subject line of the email header.

It just said "order rec 5/19/07"

I suspect they just date stamp them when they come in and open at a later date.

EZFLY80

06-17-2007, 00:17

Got my shipping confirmation today!

a better view

06-19-2007, 09:38

Originally posted by a better view
It was in the subject line of the email header.

It just said "order rec 5/19/07"

I suspect they just date stamp them when they come in and open at a later date.

OOPS!! My bad. I placed a carbine order and then a couple days later I placed a Garand receiver order. My confirmation was for the receiver. I talked to them today and they thought they might get to my carbine order by Friday.

njl

06-19-2007, 09:47

Originally posted by a better view
OOPS!! My bad. I placed a carbine order and then a couple days later I placed a Garand receiver order. My confirmation was for the receiver. I talked to them today and they thought they might get to my carbine order by Friday.

Yeah...I checked the estore yesterday and got all excited for a second when I saw a pending order...and then I remembered I'd just ordered a carbine bolt tool a couple days ago, and that's the order pending in estore. No progress on my carbine order yet other than confirmation of receipt.

On the bright side, I think they're up to shipping 5/2 orders now, and things should speed up quite a bit since they're over the hump of several thousand orders received in the first day.

I'm actually starting to think I could see my carbine by mid July.

Old School

06-20-2007, 16:25

Sent order on 4/30, received confirmation of order receipt on 5/18, received shipment notice last night and FedEx tried to drop off this morning - but nobody was home to sign. Now I'm flying out on business, not returning until Friday....so close....so, so close.