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Kobra
01-12-2007, 19:02
Evening everyone,

Normally I only frequent the Kentucky forum as I am born and raised here but thought everyone on here could provide some insight if possible. My wife just returned from LSU job interview and like it. She hasn't got the job yet but I thought some research would be in order. Sorry if this is too many questions but I have lot on my mind so any and all answers are appreciated. Any comments or pictures of the area in general would be appreciated also.

I currently have CCW license here, how difficult to get a CCW there and any wierd issues to your CCW rules?

I have several vehicles that won't pass smog or noise in the "liberal minded" states. Kentucky is pretty noninvasive on your vehicles. How's down there? How big is NASCAR there?

What's the hunting like in the Baton Rouge area? What's the general outdoor activities most people do?

Any funny gun laws? I have several full capacity handguns, semi auto rifles and shotguns and would like to get a .50 someday.

I visited Houston/Beaumont a few years ago and went out at night looking for gators with a tour guide on airboat, drinking beer, and crossed into Louisana. I love those airboats by the way. The Ohio comes up in the river bottoms and reminds me very much of what everything looked like down there.

How's the manufacturing jobs in engineering down there? I previously worked in aluminum smelting on the carbon side so I have some knowledge of coke refining and alumina refining. I know various refiners are in Lake Charles but I will have to do some research into where all of them are located. Plus I have experience in automotive, military and aerospace manufacturing.

How much time can you reasonably get to Panama City Beach, FL? Family vacations there each summer. Mapquest says 6 hrs.

Basically I assume most things are the same there as the South is generally the same everywhere. Just note, I can easily be a LSU fan when they play UK as I can't stand either one of our overpaid coaches....

Thanks again for your answers.

prezzz
01-12-2007, 21:02
Q- I currently have CCW license here, how difficult to get a CCW there and any wierd issues to your CCW rules?

A- Nothing unusual. Just take the class and that's about it. That's my understanding anyway.

Q- I have several vehicles that won't pass smog or noise in the "liberal minded" states. Kentucky is pretty noninvasive on your vehicles. How's down there? How big is NASCAR there?

A- You have to have a yearly inspection. They hook the machine up to the computer and it does a dianostic check. I think if you vehicle is beyond a certain age you are exempt from the test. NASCAR is fairly big. It's much bigger where I'm originally from though....Georgia.

Q- What's the hunting like in the Baton Rouge area? What's the general outdoor activities most people do?

A- Louisiana is pretty well known for good hunting. North of Baton Rouge is very good hunting. Some of the best in the south. As you can imagine, alot of activities center around LSU sports. Mainly football and baseball. Hunting,fishing golf, are all popular here. you can do pretty much anything you want here.

Q- Any funny gun laws? I have several full capacity handguns, semi auto rifles and shotguns and would like to get a .50 someday.

A- LA. is about as gun friendly as it gets. No problems on anything you've mentioned.

I visited Houston/Beaumont a few years ago and went out at night looking for gators with a tour guide on airboat, drinking beer, and crossed into Louisana. I love those airboats by the way. The Ohio comes up in the river bottoms and reminds me very much of what everything looked like down there.

Q- How's the manufacturing jobs in engineering down there? I previously worked in aluminum smelting on the carbon side so I have some knowledge of coke refining and alumina refining. I know various refiners are in Lake Charles but I will have to do some research into where all of them are located. Plus I have experience in automotive, military and aerospace manufacturing.

A- Can't answer this one to well being that I'm not in that field. I do know that there's a lot of refineries here also.

Q- How much time can you reasonably get to Panama City Beach, FL? Family vacations there each summer. Mapquest says 6 hrs.

A- 6 hrs. is about right. Certainly no more than that and probably less.

LA_357SIG
01-12-2007, 23:47
I live in Louisiana and work out of Paducah, I still CCW while in KY, TN and MS (I-55) under my LA permit. You will find some LEO that might hassle you about non resident CCW laws, but some officers aren't Knowledgeable on EVERY law that thier state has passed.

Effective July 15, 1998, Kentucky recognizes valid carry concealed deadly weapons licenses issued by other states and, subject to the provisions of Kentucky law, a person holding a valid license from another state may carry a concealed deadly weapon in Kentucky.
http://www.kentuckystatepolice.org/conceal.htm#faq (http://)
scroll all the way to the bottom above the map.
As long as your permit is valid, and the state recognizes it, you should be fine. But you will occasionally will run into some "know it all" prick who will give you a hard time.

And for Louisiana here's a PDF http://www.lsp.org/pdf/chFAQ.pdf 2nd page for out of state permits.

Edit to add LSP info

LA_357SIG
01-12-2007, 23:53
Any funny gun laws? I have several full capacity handguns, semi auto rifles and shotguns and would like to get a .50 someday.

Louisiana got an "F" on the Brady Campaign grading system for Gun Control. Welcome To Louisiana.

Seriously, as long as you don't carry a firearm in your hand in the city limits you should be fine. Follow the BATF rules, you can own just about anything you want. State registration isn't required, Firearm sales are same day (as long as you pass felony check) It's wonderful down here.:thumbsup:

Kobra
01-13-2007, 20:01
Well that's good news so far except for the smog checks. I figured most things would be the same.

A realtor took my wife around while she was there and she stated that most neighborhoods had homeowner associations which I don't like. What's everyone's take on their homeowner association if they have one.

Also this woman stated that this one neighborhood was not in the floodplain but a levee was clearly visible and clearly above their location at the time. Up here floodplain is a floodplain until you drop enough earth to raise it, levee or not.

Thanks for the input thus far.

Nurseman
01-13-2007, 21:03
1. most neighborhoods do not have homeowners associations. Some have optional associations but you do not have to join them.

2. do not trust any real estate agent, Baton Rouge has a large amount of corrupt RE agents. In addition they are forbidden by law from telling you if it is a good area or if it has good schools so they are basically useless.

3. I moved from New Jersey to BR and I am glad i took the advice of my company and did not purchase anything right away. I rented for 1 year before purchasing (houses to rent are cheap and plentiful) and then I was able to see what each of the areas was like for myself. BR has about 50 different neighborhoods with different pluses and minuses to each.

4.Do not purchase a home in or near a flood zone - flood insurance is not cheap and it is a waste of money. Plus your resale value is better for out of town buyers if you are not in a flood zone.
Look up flood zones here http://gis.brgov.com/maps/
5. Keep south of Florida Blv. if you purchase in BR the south is the better / safer part of BR.

6. Consider the city of Prarieville south of BR many families like it there. (except the commute is a bear)

Kobra
01-14-2007, 15:32
Thanks for the info nurseman. We will consider all of that information. The realtor thing is interesting as the realtor was my potential wife's boss's spouse.

LSP972
01-14-2007, 16:47
Ditto on the realtor thing; be VERY careful.

There are a ton of former New Orleans-area realtors here who have elected not to return. My oldest daughter was a realtor here before her husband got transferred to Indianapolis; she had a whole raft of horror stories post-Katrina. Not to say that the former N.O. realtors are any more shady than the "home-grown" BR realtors; its a cut-throat business, with a tight market here. There isn't much "desirable" real estate left; white flight, enviro-nazi problems in Livingston, space problems in Ascension, all means that there aren't many places left to develop that are within reasonable driving distance. Katrina accelerated this area's growth by 20 years or more.

I'll leave it at that, as I certainly am not the one to be giving anyone advice about living here (in Louisiana). I despise the place to my very depths, and will be beating feet westward as soon as the wife has her D.R.O.P. secured (mine is almost done; I'm a double-digit midget...:supergrin: )

Good luck.

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Kobra
02-01-2007, 15:05
Well as an update, my wife has been offered the job with her acceptance coming after our trip down there next Friday for me to look around. So consider me a new resident as we have made our minds already and I set my resignation date with my current employer this week.

A few more questions if I may:

How difficult to register short barrel rifles and suppressors? In Kentucky if you wait for the money and paperwork to clear not too difficult. I am itching for both in the next few years if possible.

Also is car window tinting and radar detectors illegal? Neither here but your windows can't be too dark due to the state law but only in certain places to they enforce it so the law is pretty nonexistant here.

Besides the normal restaurants and neighborhoods, any suggestions as to some things I should ask my wife's boss to show us? He is really planning to drive us around in the rural areas as he knows what interests I have and he has arranged some of his hunting/shooting buddies to meet me.

One last thing anyone know if there are any stipulations to moving 15+ guns across 3 state lines and into Louisana?

Thanks again.

Chui
02-12-2007, 15:43
I'm returning home after 17 years and there are some oddities. One must reside in the state for 6 months before applying for a LA License. One is also charged $150 for not being a LA resident for the last year, if my recollection is all right.

One may not enter a restaurant that serves alcoholic beverages. In MI one may enter as long as "51% of the profits do not come from alcohol". In other words, use your OWN DISCRETION.

One may not go onto ANY school campus. In Michigan one may enter the school parking lot (only if you are there to ferry children); however, I can go all over University of Michigan or Michigan State or Wayne State campuses but I cannot enter any buildings. In LA one cannot be within 1,000 feet of a school. The LA Concealed License booklet states that ignorance of the law is no excuse...

Never thought Michigan would be better in ANY respect compared to my home, but that's what we have...

Ben51925
02-12-2007, 16:36
Originally posted by Chui
I'm returning home after 17 years and there are some oddities. One must reside in the state for 6 months before applying for a LA License. One is also charged $150 for not being a LA resident for the last year, if my recollection is all right.


Thats a reason why I got a Flordia non-resident permit which is valid in Louisiana.

Originally posted by Chui

One may not enter a restaurant that serves alcoholic beverages. In MI one may enter as long as "51% of the profits do not come from alcohol". In other words, use your OWN DISCRETION.

Not true. They have to have a class A general liquor licence for you to not be able to carry. One of the requirements for them to have one is to only allow people over 18 enter. A lot of the resturants I've checked at have a Class R (Resturant).
http://www.lsp.org/handguns.html#prohibited



Originally posted by Chui


One may not go onto ANY school campus. In Michigan one may enter the school parking lot (only if you are there to ferry children); however, I can go all over University of Michigan or Michigan State or Wayne State campuses but I cannot enter any buildings. In LA one cannot be within 1,000 feet of a school. The LA Concealed License booklet states that ignorance of the law is no excuse...

Never thought Michigan would be better in ANY respect compared to my home, but that's what we have...



You can be on campus as long as your gun stays in your car.

Chui
02-12-2007, 17:50
"One must reside in the state for 6 months before applying for a LA License. One is also charged $150 for not being a LA resident for the last year, if my recollection is all right."

Originally posted by Ben51925
That's a reason why I got a Flordia non-resident permit which is valid in Louisiana.

One may not enter a restaurant that serves alcoholic beverages. In MI one may enter as long as "51% of the profits do not come from alcohol". In other words, use your OWN DISCRETION.

Originally posted by Ben51925
Not true. They have to have a class A general liquor licence for you to not be able to carry. One of the requirements for them to have one is to only allow people over 18 enter. A lot of the resturants I've checked at have a Class R (Resturant).
http://www.lsp.org/handguns.html#prohibited

That's much better. I'll have to decipher what the differences are and what type of licenses Mike Andersons, Parrain's, et als. have.


"One may not go onto ANY school campus. In Michigan one may enter the school parking lot (only if you are there to ferry children); however, I can go all over University of Michigan or Michigan State or Wayne State campuses but I cannot enter any buildings. In LA one cannot be within 1,000 feet of a school. The LA Concealed License booklet states that ignorance of the law is no excuse..."

Originally posted by Ben51925 You can be on campus as long as your gun stays in your car.

Yes, this makes no sense whatsoever to me. Why would I purposely leave my pistol in my vehicle? And if I jog around the LSU Lakes at night I cannot legally carry because I'm technically in violation of the law. In the Socialist Republik of Michigan they have a better law in this regard. For instance, if I'm driving to CC's and pass thru LSU's campus I cannot legally have it concealed. If I stop to see Mike (the Tiger) or Lacumba (SU's Jaguar mascot) at midnight - when they are both up and active - I cannot carry. Odd that. But, hey, the law is the law.

DJTeancum
02-23-2007, 13:05
Just a few thoughts about LA gun laws:

You must pay $150 for the permit if you haven't lived in the state for 15 years, $100 if you have. You also have to pay for fingerprinting which was about $10.00 last I checked. The LSP only accept money orders or bank checks, no cash, personal checks or credit cards.

LA is technically open carry, but some of the law enforcement here like to make up their own laws, especially in Gonzales, LA where a man was arrested and charged for open carrying.

If you read the law carefully, it seems to say (to me) that you cannot enter a persons private residence while packing without their permission. Not sure if that means you can't enter the house without permission period or if you can't enter while packing without permission to pack in their house.

You can cary anything in your car, anywhere in the state (possibly excluding federal property). This includes self-defense free zones. Even with a permit, I don't leave my gun on my body so that I don't have to inform an officer if I get pulled over. Your car is VERY well protected under LA law, and they have to get a warrent to search it. You can basically have any item in your car that you can have in your house. Just don't give the police permission to search your car for any reason and you will always win.

LSP972
02-24-2007, 08:47
Originally posted by DJTeancum
Just don't give the police permission to search your car for any reason and you will always win.

Ya know, I was going to comment on this blatantly wrong statement; but every time I get involved in these sort of discussions I end up either being called a JBT, or worse. Its like wrestling with a pig; the pig likes it, and I get dirty.

26 days and a wake-up...

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DJTeancum
02-25-2007, 22:52
Originally posted by LSP972
Ya know, I was going to comment on this blatantly wrong statement; but every time I get involved in these sort of discussions I end up either being called a JBT, or worse. Its like wrestling with a pig; the pig likes it, and I get dirty.

26 days and a wake-up...

.

I'm sorry if I have offended you, but as I understand it, LEOs needs permission to search your car/house in Louisiana without a warrant. Ok, I suppose you won't ALWAYS win, since if the LEO really think you have something like a dead body in your car, they can impound it or say they have some credible evidence that you have committed a crime.

I am not supporting illegal activity (unless it is in violation of unconstitutional laws, but that is another argument for another time), I just want to keep people out of jail for petty offenses. For LEO, its just a day's work convicting a college student of drug possesion because some pothead he was bringing home from work had drugs on him. For that college student, any chance at a decent job in the future is shot.

This is why I said that last part about no permission to search, etc...:

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized." (4th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution)

I've had lawyers tell me that its always useful to say these things if detained:

"I do not consent to any searches"
"Am I free to go now?"

and that you should NEVER lie to a LEO, run from a LEO, raise your voice to or touch a LEO, or admit to any crime you may or may not be guilty of to a LEO.

I don't know what a JBT is, but I certainly have lots of respect for the LSP and most other LE. On the federal level....well that's a different story :supergrin:


(edited to remove duplicate text)

LSP972
02-26-2007, 07:27
You are correct in your assumption; a LEO needs permission, probable cause, or a warrant to search.

My point was this; if you have nothing to hide, why not give permission? Not giving permission raises a big flag, and if the LEO is suspicious enough, he can detain you for up until an hour; plenty of time to get a warrant in some jurisdictions. And if he gets that warrant, he can toss your vehicle right down to the frame; as opposed to a quick cursory look-through, which is probably what you'll get if you simply say OK.

You didn't offend me; and I probably reacted a bit too harshly. Its just that these boards are full of so-called "constitutionalists" who are rabidly against ANY sort of LE intrusion into their lives; and I get rather weary of their chest-thumping. Guess I was lumping you into that category; sorry if it ain't so...;)

Since this is a gun forum, I assumed you were talking about carrying a weapon in your vehicle. That is perfectly legal and proper in Louisiana; you cannot get rousted for that unless you're a convicted felon.

As for the unsuspecting college kid giving a pothead a ride... I'll leave that one alone, I think.:rofl:

JBT stands for Jack-Booted Thug; a term originally coined in reference to the ATF and their blatantly UN-constitutional actions of years past. Ruby Ridge and Waco put a stop to most of that sort of thing; but some folks have embraced the term and use it to describe law enforcement in general.

FWIW; after 28 years in the profession, I have no use for most feds either...;)

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Bio Glock
03-02-2007, 21:02
Kobra,

Thank you for starting the thread and all who have responded.

I too have just recieved an offer to transfer to BR as a Federal Employee assigned to the State.

I would welcome any direct correspondance sharing ideas to live.

My assigned duty area/office will be near the Swaggart Center.

Looking for a place that my wife will feel safe, so we can enjoy this 2 year assignment. we enjoy walking, bike riding, and will be looking to go sailing.

Your help is appreciated.

I will be moving from Atlanta GA area.

Mike

DJTeancum
03-02-2007, 23:48
Originally posted by Bio Glock
Kobra,

Thank you for starting the thread and all who have responded.

I too have just recieved an offer to transfer to BR as a Federal Employee assigned to the State.

I would welcome any direct correspondance sharing ideas to live.

My assigned duty area/office will be near the Swaggart Center.

Looking for a place that my wife will feel safe, so we can enjoy this 2 year assignment. we enjoy walking, bike riding, and will be looking to go sailing.

Your help is appreciated.

I will be moving from Atlanta GA area.

Mike

I would recommend not living North of Florida Blvd (Florida St.). Not only is that a fair distance do drive to get to where you work, but your wife will not feel safe there. We live in a nice part of town (South Sherwood Forest by I-12), but I still don't let my mom go to the store at night by herself b/c of groups of "minorities" that wander the streets in some parts of town.

LSP972
03-04-2007, 08:18
Mike, your stated work area is one of several "nice" areas left unsullied in south Baton Rouge. But it won't be for long. Just two miles southwest of there is the infamous GSRI Road area; otherwise known as Dodge City to the Kleinpeter sheriff's deputies, I'm told. And there is some sort of federal program going on around here that is giving low or no-cost house loans to indigenous types. They're spreading like a fungus.

One of those shake'n'bake subdivisions, with 1600-1700 square foot "spec houses", just got planted in my back yard in Zachary. My property value just took another nose-dive. One was put in across LA 64 (less than a mile from me) last year. Two of my colleagues who built there are already looking to get out, due to the sort of neighbors (and their actions) they are seeing more and more of.

My point to all of this is, you won't be able to avoid undesirables around here; there are simply too many of them. Katrina detritus has infected this area, and they're staying. This, along with the miserable climate and even worse infrastructure, is why I am beating feet out of here as soon as the wife can retire.

You have my sympathy; hopefully it is a TDY assignment.

.

Bayoucritter
03-06-2007, 07:47
Check the area across I-10 from Swaggart's and between Airline Hwy. There is an old section and new section - I think it is called Jefferson Terrace.

Kobra
04-18-2007, 21:44
Sorry for being so slow to reply. I checked it awhile back and forgot about it. Well my wife found a temporary place to live and has settled in. You guys and my own research has pretty well answered all my questions. Bio Glock these guys can do a far better job than me but seeing how you are coming from GA I would say your like me and have nothing to worry about as the South is still pretty much the South. My biggest fear was that Tubby would follow me to LSU. So I leave here in a few months with LSU, UK, Louisville and UMass as teams I can pull for and only Minnisota as my only foe.

Good luck Bio Glock on your move also - yours ought to be a little less distance.