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Mr. Big
01-31-2007, 16:27
Any updates?

Thx!

Rigormootis
02-05-2007, 16:49
As I understand it - they are long gone... But, since I missed this boat yet again, if anyone has one they no longer want, please send me an email.
Thanks.
moorecd@hotmail.com

ColoradoGlocker
02-05-2007, 19:56
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Gary1911A1
02-06-2007, 07:16
I certainly think there is a market for them. The question comes down to price and how many people want to pay it. If he could come up with a price people might be willing to pre order with a deposit if they felt it wasn't going to be like the Bren Ten.

Rigormootis
02-06-2007, 15:28
OOps - Sorry guys/Steve. Thanks.

Moondo
02-12-2007, 12:43
I have been trying to get a G20 Longslide for the past year and a half through Lone Wolf. It appears that the cost of machining the parts (in the neighborhood of $15,000 to $20,000) is scaring the distributors and machinists from producing them. I was told by one manufacture, that they would consider production if an order of 50 was placed and prepaid. Maybe we could get a list together from this group and make a proposal.... Moondo

Los Suenos
02-12-2007, 13:05
#1, I'm in.

Moondo
02-12-2007, 13:07
All Right, I guess I'm #2 then.... :thumbsup:

Vulcanese
02-12-2007, 14:49
1) How much per unit are we talking about here?

2) Will the longslide include buried Bo-Mars?

I might be #3 based on the answers to these two questions.

Rigormootis
02-12-2007, 14:50
#3

saspic
02-12-2007, 14:58
I am definitely #4. I was told they would cost around $550 with sights included. I am okay with that, but I don't think they could really go much higher.
That's about the cost of a new GLOCK 20 with frame, barrel, and everything.

Moondo
02-12-2007, 15:17
when I was talking to these companies I was trying to have one single slide made without sight cuts. I believe it will take a list of people that are committed to the project before a company would be willing to give us a price. Although, As stated in a previous post it can't be too much more than the $549.00 that was charged for the batch from Germany. This has to be cheap enough for the consumer as well as profitable for the company willing to take it on. Moondo

Masque
02-12-2007, 15:47
That's silly. If there are enough of us, why wouldn't we order direct from the German manufacturer? The idea of a retailer doing that is that they assume the risk of a large purchase - if we have enough purchases, we don't need that kind of assistance. We save money, they don't have the hassle of having to risk/order/collect/ship/profit, and everybody wins. At least in some way.

If they want to gauge interest and order earlier than we could as a group, then that sounds great too. I'd pay a little more to have one earlier. But the "We have to wait for the retailer to have them made, and we have to have X orders for them to make them" seems a little silly unless they want 5 orders out of a minimum batch of ten, or similar.

In other words: GROUP BUY! :)

Moondo
02-12-2007, 16:21
That's exactly what I'm saying, In order for this to work we will need to take a list of committed people to the manufacturer and say here are at least 50 people that are willing to spend around $500.00 per slide. The manufacturer at that point realizes he has no risk and isn't fronting the $15,000.00 set up costs. *Side note* I believe the German company was contacted by LWD to make another batch of slides including the G20's that are advertised in their catalog and it fell through. Again, I believe if we want to ever see the possibility of seeing longslide 20's is with a group buy.

FlyinBrian
02-12-2007, 18:19
Count me in!

mrgrinch
02-12-2007, 19:15
I'll cough up the cash too.

Mr. Big
02-12-2007, 21:34
I definately want one, but I'd prefer it with the factory sight cut.

DavidinSA
02-12-2007, 22:29
I will buy one.

Maybe we could have a sticky list of those that are serious about buying one.
I would probably prefer the factory sight cuts in the slide but will order either way.
If these were CNC machined, which they will be for cost, then it might be possible to obtain the programming by another machine shop to make them. Then setup costs would be fairly inexpensive.
If we get a large enough list of buyers, we could then start looking into it more.

thoughts?

david

MakeMineA10mm
02-13-2007, 00:15
Well, with the snow storm hitting us tomorrow, I'll try to call Glock, Inc. and talk to a guy I know there to see if there's a snowball's chance in he!! of Glock making them...

ColoradoGlocker
02-13-2007, 01:02
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DavidinSA
02-13-2007, 07:44
ColoradoGlocker,

Do you know if JR is going to make it a dedicated 10mm or a conversion?
He might be able to sell more if it was for the 45 and then we used a conversion barrel for the 10mm.
Like you did with the others.

David

Rigormootis
02-13-2007, 08:22
Based on my phone con with JR 2 days ago, both a G20 and a G21 longslide are planned - with standard sight cuts and standard front serrations. SO, if all goes well with their current manufacturer, those of us who want to make a .45/10mm combo pistol (with a .45/10mm conversion bbl & ejector) will get another chance...and those of use who are looking for a G20 longslide (convertible of course via barrel swap to .40/.357sig/9x23/9x25...) will also get the goods. He mentioned that they are still looking to mid/late in the year though...

Moondo
02-13-2007, 09:20
I have been in contact with Dan at LWD for the past year and a half calling every month or so. I think they are getting the same story that I got when talking to the machinists at Caspian, KKM Precision, Bar-Sto, and S&J Customs. The initial startup costs are at least $15,000.00 Kevin at KKM thought about it a little then said he would not touch a project like this for even $25,000.00! I believe any distributor will have to question whether or not they are willing to place a $15,000.00 chunk of cash down hoping there is going to be a market for longslides. Any way you look at it we have to show somebody there is a market. I believe a sticky is an excellent idea, once we have enough individuals that will commit to buying one we can find a manufacturer that will make them. MakeMinea10mm do you think you would have more power with Glock if you had a list of 50-60 people willing to buy them? Moondo

Mik
02-13-2007, 11:14
i'm definately in for a 20L.

Masque
02-13-2007, 11:46
So - wait. Why is the setup cost so high? It's been set up once before, right? Can't we get them to make -more- of the first batch?

Moondo
02-13-2007, 12:24
Excellent Question, once we have a list of buyers let's call them. I unfortunately do not know the company's name since I was trying to obtain a slide through LWD and they were dealing with them. Can anyone else help with this.... Colorado ??? Moondo

ColoradoGlocker
02-13-2007, 12:49
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MakeMineA10mm
02-13-2007, 13:46
Well, start-up costs for Glock would be minimal in my estimation.

They would simply have to order a longer size blank piece of stock for the longer slide. While I don't know how many operations each machine is set up to do on a slide, nor how many machines a slide must be mounted in to complete all machining operations, in concept, the only modification or programming Glock would have to do is for the extra front 1.5" of slide...

All internal parts and finishing would be what is already used...

I called Glock today and spoke with a couple people. They were not flippant or discouraging of the project and asked me to send in the idea in writing.

SO, I've done just that. My proposal, in order to have the greatest likelihood of production did not ask for anything that Glock does not already do (i.e. no front serations, no Bo-Mar sights, etc.). I just asked them to make a Model 24-style slide for the Model 20, so that the 6" hunting barrel would have a full-length slide. I also pointed out that the reason this would sell well is for both aesthetics and recoil reduction, which with the 10mm's potential recoil, would make a G-20 longslide the most beneficial/useful longslide they could make... I also pointed out that they already make the barrel for the "G-20L" - the 6" Hunting Barrel.

Hopefully, this, along with demonstrating that LWD has already successfully marketed this product and that there is still a large demand for it, will prompt Glock into doing something.

We probably won't hear about it for a few months (time to make a decision, do the coding for the CNC, ordering raw materials, actual production, and then shipment to the US)... I also asked him to let me know if the answer is "no"...



Mik! Good to see you, brother! Been awhile. How are you?

jcook119
02-13-2007, 14:28
I do not currently own any Glock pistols, but if LW or someone will come out with the G20 long slide I will be buying one.

Thanks,
James

MakeMineA10mm
02-13-2007, 16:05
Well, by my count, there are 16 people already "signing up" for one on this thread. Please post below, if you want one, and you haven't already declared that on this thread.

I suggested to Glock to make 500 new pistols (G-20Ls) and 500 slides to sell to people who have already bought the 6" Hunting Barrel or to sell as a package with the 6" Hunting Barrel.

I also asked my contact person to let me know either way. Like I said above, give Glock a few months to do the market and engineering study. I think, depending on their priorities / busy-ness with other projects, we should know something by the summer, so they'd be available for the next hunting season, IF Glock is interested in doing them at all.

Moondo
02-13-2007, 17:07
A big thank-you for checking into it!!!!

bakjr
02-13-2007, 17:17
You can definitely count me in!

DavidinSA
02-13-2007, 17:24
How do we go about making a master list of those that are willing to make a serious commitment to the purchase of a G20L? Sticky on a thread?
Either a full pistol or a slide.

David

Mr. Big
02-13-2007, 19:51
If Glock made them, I'd buy two: a complete gun and a slide.

jersey223
02-13-2007, 20:29
I have been lurking for some time and had to chime in on this thread. The possibility of getting a 20L is absolutely awesome. I currently have the 20 and would love to order a longslide. So, if someone builds it I want it!

+1

FortyCaliber
02-13-2007, 22:04
I'm up for a Longslide in either 20 or 21 on an SF frame. ;)

chief_017
02-13-2007, 23:10
So right now by 'committing' to a G20L, would we be committing to just the slide or the whole pistol, or basically just expressing interest in either and take whatever we can get first? And are we talking about a 20L thats 10mm/.45 convertible or just standard 10mm w/ .40, .357 sig, etc or both or again, whatever we can get? And my last question is can the 10mm/.45 convertible also be converted to shoot .40, .357 sig, etc? I know theres some difference in the breech face I believe but thats about all I know.

As of right now I cant afford it, but I will be able to this summer once school is out and I'm working again, so either way count me in as long as we wont need money until later.

HAVOC
02-13-2007, 23:31
If they have standard sight cuts and either vertical or no forward serrations, I'm in firm for 2. If they come only like the previous G21L slides I only want 1.

MakeMineA10mm
02-14-2007, 01:24
Originally posted by chief_017
So right now by 'committing' to a G20L, would we be committing to just the slide or the whole pistol, or basically just expressing interest in either and take whatever we can get first? And are we talking about a 20L thats 10mm/.45 convertible or just standard 10mm w/ .40, .357 sig, etc or both or again, whatever we can get? And my last question is can the 10mm/.45 convertible also be converted to shoot .40, .357 sig, etc? I know theres some difference in the breech face I believe but thats about all I know.

As of right now I cant afford it, but I will be able to this summer once school is out and I'm working again, so either way count me in as long as we wont need money until later.

Clarification: This is NOT a group buy. (GT has had it's share of problems with those in the past, and I don't want any part of one...)

So, this thread is just to gauge interest, so I can speak semi-intelligently to Glock, Inc.

What I imagine and wrote up was basically a factory G-20 in every way, except the slide would be the appropriate length and weight to accomodate the 6" hunting barrel. The added item is that the bottom front of the slide (that sticks out past the dust-cover) would probably be set-up like a G-24 slide. I also suggested that the engineers would have to ensure the weight of the slide matched the engineering of the recoil impulse and recoil spring of the G-20. (Because they have to ensure a reliable pistol, even for those silly people who would not be shooting Double-Tap loads in it. -- Can't imagine who that would be, but they are out there, somewhere...)

I did it this way for two reasons:
1. Glock (Gaston himself, their lawyers, and their engineers) do not like people buying/using after-market stuff on their pistols. Therefore, I am "selling" this idea to them in a way that will not make them violate this self-imposed restriction. They already make all of the parts themselves, except the slide.

2. Taking #1 into account, Glock doesn't make a 6" 45ACP barrel, so it is a bigger up-hill battle to sell Glock on the idea of making BOTH a G21 long-slide AND a G-21 6" Hunting Barrel. (Therefore, no 45-breech-face slides --> Sorry to those who wanted that.)

In addition, this philosophy is also why I didn't ask for things like front slide serrations, etc. I want to show Glock how EASY it would be for them to make and market a new pistol with a strong niche market (hunting). Didn't want to throw things in there that made it complicated or difficult.

By my count we're at 22, and there isn't even a link to this thread in the Long-Slide forum or General Glocking... That's a good start in a day or two. :thumbsup:

cookand
02-14-2007, 02:01
Add me to the list for a long slide for my G20. That would be my ultimate pistola. I already have the 6" SL.:thumbsup:

epsylum
02-14-2007, 18:44
I would be interested. But if they could also find it in their heart to do a .45 as well, I would be all over that as well.

I will also cast a vote for my brother as he is a longslide and 10mm fan. I KNOW he would want one if Glock offered a factory one.

10mm4ever
02-14-2007, 19:06
I'm in...BUT! I think we should take our group buy on over to Caspian! No one, and I mean no one could make a better LS than Caspian! My guess is that you wouldnt need to spend anywhere near that amount through Caspian.

Photocop
02-14-2007, 22:25
I would love a G20L, not for hunting as I'm not big into that, but for use as a defensive pistol. I actually use a 6" bbl in my home defense G20 and would like to carry one on my person. The only reason I don't is because it looks a little ridiculous with the 1 1/2" of bbl sticking out of the end of the gun. People will think you're insane enough with a long slide, but the exposed barrel looks excessive to most. :-) I would prefer if Glock actually manufactured a long slide G20 for use with the Glock 6" bbl. since I actually prefer the sloppier, stock chambers for more reliable feeding in defensive applications and I have no use for Bomar sights or front serrations. I would have to think that a Glock factory long slide would have sufficient accuracy for hunting applications anyway without the use of a "match grade" barrel. After all, it's still a handgun and you're not going to be taking 200 yrd. shots with it in normal hunting applications.

If there were no other choices, I might be interested in one of the LWD long slides, but I've never liked front serrations and I don't prefer Bomar sights. I could live with the front serrations but mandatory Bomars might be a deal killer for me, especially since the slides are sold at the same price as an entire new gun.

Mr. Big
02-14-2007, 22:38
^^^^^^^I'm with you^^^^^^^^

I have one of the 10mm G21L set-ups, but I'd really prefer to use the factory barrel and factory (or heinie) sights. I'd also like a G20L slide to use with my 6" 9x25 barrel.

Like some of you guys, I just can't understand why Glock doesn't already make a G20L.

bettysnephew
02-14-2007, 22:49
If they make it, I hope it doesn't have a big oval hole in the top of the slide.

Vulcanese
02-15-2007, 08:55
Originally posted by bettysnephew
If they make it, I hope it doesn't have a big oval hole in the top of the slide.

Like the ported guns? I have not seen anyone propose this, but it would certainly be counterproductive to the idea of having a slide with increased weight.

susan28
02-15-2007, 10:53
i'm still on the hook, whatever number that makes me.. i'll take #28 :)

CHRIS 669
02-15-2007, 13:00
Count me in.

mikey357
02-15-2007, 17:50
I'd go for one, too...either as an "Add-on Kit" OR as a "Stand-Alone" gun....mikey357

g20g20
02-16-2007, 00:49
If glock is willing to make a g20L, I'd love to buy it. I already have 6" hunting barrels for both of my g20's. I would buy either just the slide or a new gun. Whatever glock is willing to make.

10mm4ever
02-16-2007, 08:10
BTW, I wrote Amy Sayers, VP @ Caspian, a long e-mail this morning! I also invited her over to the Ten Ring to get a better perspective of just how many of us would jump at the chance for a Caspian made Longslide for the G20/21. No one could make a better longslide! I even started a thread here, in order for Amy to get direct feedback from all of us that would be interested in a Caspian produced longslide. So please, make your voices heard. You can also go to www.caspianarms.com and e-mail her.:thumbsup:

Moondo
02-16-2007, 09:06
Amy, is one of the people I spoke to about making a slide for me. She showed some interest but it was apparent that I was going to need to show her that there was a market. I hope she takes you up on the invitation and looks for herself. Moondo

g20g20
02-16-2007, 16:59
Personally, I'm only interested in a glock made longslide.

HAVOC
02-16-2007, 20:07
If by some miracle BOTH became available, I'd want one of each. Glock made for carry, and aftermarket for pimping out. Cutting in sights or grooves or whatever is a major PITA with Tenifer, and it ruins the rust resistance and toughness of the piece.

If I had to choose one or the other, I'd take the Glock made version.

545Fan
02-16-2007, 20:25
I'm in for one of the G21L slides if they come true. That way, I can just get two barrels and shoot both 10mm and .45 ACP out of it, like I do with the standard length slide and barrels.

Thanks,

545Fan

FortyCaliber
02-16-2007, 20:33
Originally posted by bettysnephew
If they make it, I hope it doesn't have a big oval hole in the top of the slide.

Originally posted by Vulcanese
Like the ported guns? I have not seen anyone propose this, but it would certainly be counterproductive to the idea of having a slide with increased weight.

No, I think he means like the longlide 34 and 35. The top of the slides are relieved to keep the slide mass similar to the 17 and 22. This allows the same recoil spring to be used.

Additional weight can be beneficial, but too much weight can be undesireable. The location / distribution of the slide mass can be just as effective as a pure increase in mass.

InlineSpeeder
02-16-2007, 22:41
If I had to choose I would choose the caspian slide everytime.They use a much higher grade steel and dont need tenifer coating to make up for the softer steel of the glocks before the tenifer coating. And for those who are waiting on glock to produce a long slide 10 mil...you may be in for quite a wait...

Davis
02-17-2007, 11:54
You can add me to the list, put me down for 1 upper/slide
Thanks for the leg work too

Scott

Mr. Big
02-17-2007, 13:49
Originally posted by InlineSpeeder
If I had to choose I would choose the caspian slide everytime.They use a much higher grade steel and dont need tenifer coating to make up for the softer steel of the glocks before the tenifer coating. And for those who are waiting on glock to produce a long slide 10 mil...you may be in for quite a wait... Which alloy does each (Glock & Caspian) use for their slides?

JoeSnuffy
02-18-2007, 21:23
Originally posted by Mr. Big
I definately want one, but I'd prefer it with the factory sight cut.

Plus 1

Given the numbers of folks with G21s...I bet Caspian would be more inclined to go that route

Perhaps a buy could be coordinated with the 21 club members here...

Then Colorado's KKM conversion would be doable for lots of us.

10mm4ever
02-19-2007, 10:47
Ok, here's an update! I received a reply from Gary Smith, sales mgr. at Caspian, this morining. He expressed to me that there seems to be ALOT of interest/requests for a G20/21 longslide, and he assures me that Caspian is "listening". He stated, that if these requests continue, that a Caspian longslide for the 20/21 will most likely be included in their next run of longslides!!! Keep it up! You couldnt find a better slide anywhere at any price, and I'm guessing the slide were dreaming of would most likely be priced @ 300 bucks or so!!!:thumbsup:

Rigormootis
02-19-2007, 16:22
Personally, I'd prefer a G20 longslide (over a 21). That's just me though. I have 2 6" 10mm G20 barrels already and I'd rather not have to get a 21/10mm conversion.

jcook119
02-19-2007, 16:59
Great news!

ColoradoGlocker
02-19-2007, 17:46
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MusingDaddy
02-19-2007, 17:52
I would sell the wife's stamp collection for a Glock 20L.

DavidinSA
02-19-2007, 20:32
Personally, I hope that Glock decides to produce one.
If anyone else decides to produce a slide, I hope it would have a black finish.
I would still buy one if it doesn't, just my preference.
Also, I like the idea of a 45 slide with a 45/10 conversion barrel.
That way I can shoot both rounds.

David

Moondo
02-20-2007, 09:08
I believe that if Caspian decides to make the long slides, they would benefit greatly (profits) in making one for both the 20 and the 21. Moondo

Rigormootis
02-20-2007, 10:34
CG,

Good points. I guess I would rather not have to go with a "special" extractor (even if it has proven reliable for many here) and I would rather not have to buy another barrel on top of getting a longslide. If, of course, that is the only way to go I'll do it...I just would prefer to use the 2 existing barrels I already own. A few years back I decided to consolidate my handgun calibers & reloading components to 9mm, 10mm, .38/.357 mag, and 7.62x25 so a ".45 capable" slide isn't really important to me.

We'll see.
Thanks again.
- C

DavidinSA
02-20-2007, 17:39
Any more word from Glock?
It would be a shame if two companies came out with longslides at the same time.
It would hurt both of them.

David

susan28
02-20-2007, 17:51
just emailed Amy at Caspian and added my name to the "petition" but email got returned? unresolvable address..

MPD142
02-20-2007, 18:27
A factory G20L now that would be sweet and I deffinantly be purchasing one of them bad boys.

Airsekui
02-21-2007, 09:01
FNG here :wavey: I must admit, this forum and Double Tap's offerings is what convinced me to finally getting a 10mm!

I would definitely get a 10mm long slide from Glock only if it doesn’t have the opening atop the slide, as previously mentioned (not good for a field gun). But I’m leaning towards Caspian. I’ve already sent Amy an email on this matter. :)

DavidinSA
02-26-2007, 22:04
Any new info from Glock?
Any new thoughts?

David

schild
03-02-2007, 12:48
I'm thinking about a 20 and a LS would seal the deal, and yes, I would by a Caspian.

mitchmcgee
03-02-2007, 21:00
Just sent email to Amy asking her to add my name to the list of people to be notified when Caspian is accepting orders for the 6" G20 slide.

Cheers,

MakeMineA10mm
03-03-2007, 21:50
I haven't heard back yet from Glock, but, then again, Glock has never been much on discussing their plans or intentions. Once one plants an idea with them, one must be patient and see if it takes hold.

HOWEVER, I will call my contact at Glock in Georgia and see what his thoughts/reactions are.

I know that because engineering this wouldn't be that challenging for Glock, the main question that will be asked is: "How many of these will we realistically sell?" They won't be interested in this project for a one-time sale to a bunch of enthusiasts. To get Glock to make this, it will need to be seen as a viable long-term production item (meaning steady sales over the long-run).

DavidinSA
03-03-2007, 22:16
Realistically, it probably will not happen.
Unless there is some kind of 10mm adoption by an agency, hard to believe that Glock would be interested.
I am curious to see if the G21SF is received well.
If it solves the grip size issue then maybe the 10mm might have a chance of being adopted my some agency out there.


I will still hope for the best though.

David

Mr. Big
03-04-2007, 00:26
Well, they already make the 6" barrel, in order to make it a viable hunting gun. So, they must realize that some folks are buying the G20 with an eye toward getting the 6" barrel and hunting with it.

I don't see why they wouldn't just sell a complete gun, a longslide, to those people. It's not like you lose any sort of functionality. I think the number of people who hunt with a G20 with a 6" barrel is many times larger than the number of people who CCW a G20.

DavidinSA
03-04-2007, 08:43
Good point.
I didn't think about that since I no longer hunt and have never hunted with a pistol larger than a 22LR.
Maybe there is hope.
I think tooling costs would be minimal for them.
Also, if they put it on the new SF frame then maybe it would draw more individuals.
The 10mm is really a great versatile caliber but I can see where many smaller handed individuals would not like the size of the grip in the current configuration.
Maybe this is the approach needed to Glock?
A G20SF Longslide.

Thoughts?
David

susan28
03-04-2007, 08:53
hmmmm SF.. well when it comes to the 10, i like *weight*, which the extra rounds provide, and i also don't hunt and use handguns only for home defense. so that's 2 strikes against the SF for me.

and also you know Glock will have that weight cutout, which also detracts from the extra weight i want a Longslide for in the first place. although the longer barrel gives weight and that cutout does help the balance.

just gimme a G20L with a (black) Caspian or LW slide with a big-dot and that's one heapin' BG-blaster..

DavidinSA
03-04-2007, 09:06
Number of rounds is not affected with the SF frame if I am not mistaken.
But I am with you on the cutout in the slide.
I would prefer not to have it but I can live with it if Glock would produce one.
And like I said, my hope is that more individuals would be willing to purchase a 10mm if the frame size was reduced.
Obviously it is an issue even with the 10mm crowd seeing all the grip reductions being done.
Glock is gambling that it is an issue since they produced the G21SF.
The next easy step from Glock would be a G20SF.
I am just hoping that they find it profitable to produce a Longslide version.
I feel it would benefit them and us.
Their concern right now may be the "Assualt ban" that is coming up again.
If it does get through, then there is no advantage anymore of the larger capacity of the large frames except for law enforcement use.
The 10mm is really an ideal round for enforcement since it can be downloaded or shot hot.
If one could reduce the argument that the grip is too big then maybe some agencies would make the transition and that would benefit all of us.

just my 2 cents
David

susan28
03-04-2007, 09:17
oh, i thought the SF was gonna be a single-stack.. agreed skinnier frame would be good. it would definitely help me, who currently really requires 2 hands to shoot the G20. i can shoot it one-handed but it's not an ideal grip. i'd get one even without the LS in that case. but if i'm gonna shoot a single stack it's gonna be a 1911..

MakeMineA10mm
03-04-2007, 09:29
Well, I think that the easiest thing for Glock to do is actually a G20L, because they make all of the parts already except the slide, and even then, they already have all of the tooling to make the slide (if you combine the G-24 and G-20 machining operations).

I have no objection to an SF version, I just approached it from a least-risk (because the G-20 has been thoroughly tested and improved and is a "mature" product) and easiest-to-make (a.k.a. cheapest financial risk) aspect.

Lastly, I asserted in my letter that the one thing Glock needs to do that is a little uncharacteristic for them is to leave the window cut-out in the top of the slide OUT. I told them that if they need to lighten the slide, they should relieve the inside of the slide walls as was done on the G21, and NOT cut a big hole in the top where dirt can get in. I also asserted that most people who will buy this are using full-power ammunition, not FBI-loads, and lastly, that they would be undermining sales, if they did this. (I didn't say it, but I believe the reason the longslides have as slow a sales as they do is because of that stupid window cut-out...)

I'll call on Monday and see what they think so far.

Davis
03-04-2007, 09:42
I agree on the top cut out. I would have gotten a long slide a long time ago if it didn't have that open area on top

DavidinSA
03-04-2007, 13:09
The SF is shorter front to back on the grip, not side to side. Some individuals that have already purchased say it really does help them with the grip of the larger frames.
My guess is that if you are borderline on the larger frames then you will have the most benefit from the SF frame.

If what I have read from Glock is correct, the only hardware that is different on the SF frame is a redesigned trigger housing to accomadate the smaller backstrap area and the ambidextrous mag release.
So, if that is true, then 10mm mags modified for the ambidextrous release mechanism would be the only thing needed to adapt for a 10mm round.
If that is the case, I see Glock more receptive to producing a G20SF and possibly a G20LSF(longslide).
The only risk is producing new mags for the 10mm with the ambidextrous release. And, if the modification still allows the use of the mags in guns with only the left sided mag release, then there is very little financial risk/cost for Glock to produce a G20SF and then if demand increases, then maybe a G20LSF.
Does that make sense?

thoughts?
David

P.S. Yes, the cutouts have kept me from buying the Glock Longslides also. I have been interested in a G34, if I do get one, then I will be machining a "plug" to fill the hole.

Sean VHA #60013
03-07-2007, 13:04
Put me down for two of them if you are still communicating numbers to Glock. I know several folks locally who would soak up at least two more as well.

mfezi
03-16-2007, 07:37
I would be interested in obtaining a G20L & 6" barrel from Glock; any more news?

saspic
03-16-2007, 13:36
Yes. Caspian said they will do it. But it will take time.
http://glocktalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=669577

g20g20
03-16-2007, 16:50
Personally, I'm only interested in a glock longslide.

Cam Cooke
03-19-2007, 08:50
I'd go with a Caspian LS if Glock doesn't produce one first also I am not interested in a slide with the open window on it either...

I would definately go for a LSF framed G20 & G29.

The only reason I waited until just a couple of years ago to buy a G20 was because of the large palm swell on the grip and I would have also bought a G29 years ago if the palm swell was smaller.

I installed a flat main spring housing onto my Colt Delta Elite which made the grip feel/point so much better.

I can hardly wait the SF series to take off... I'll be buying both as soon as they ae available.

10mm4ever
03-19-2007, 10:58
Trust me when I say that Glock couldnt make a better longslide than Caspian. Caspians are held to true match tolerances, and literelly "hug" the frame rails. The Glock L's are held to the samr tolerances as the rest of their models. Match accuracy and tolerances is the name of the game and you'll get exactly that from Caspian.

Davis
03-19-2007, 11:12
ok , what are we looking at ..cost wise for a caspian long slide for a G20? will it take all the stock internal parts?

I am almost done my AR10 project. Are they making one yet?

molonlabe28
03-20-2007, 12:37
The G20L is a gun to get excited about.

I have a 34 and a 24, but a 10mm longslide, whether it's by Glock or Caspian, would be great.

10mm4ever
03-20-2007, 18:00
Originally posted by Davis
ok , what are we looking at ..cost wise for a caspian long slide for a G20? will it take all the stock internal parts?

I am almost done my AR10 project. Are they making one yet? As far as cost, I'd guess that they shouldnt be much more than the G34/35 slides(300ish). Caspian slides take OEM internals.

Davis
03-20-2007, 18:39
thanks , thats sound like a new project

buckweet
04-07-2007, 21:58
count me in ! i'll buy one !

weet

JWP
04-08-2007, 01:20
i have the barrel/bomars and no slide - i'd buy a slide

nickE10mm
04-08-2007, 12:48
I already have one of the custom G20L setups but I guarantee, if Glock decided to make one, I'd buy one.

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/8900/p1010017resizecrop4hi.jpg

Cam Cooke
04-28-2007, 09:44
I just reread this thread...

I would buy a G20SFLS standard rail in a second...

I would then switch the long slide onto my 3rd gen G20 frame and the standard slide onto the new SF frame...

I would then sell my Colt Delta Elite because it would be obselite to me then...

TurboRocket
05-03-2007, 19:54
I'd be in for either a G20L or G20LSF. I actually would prefer Glock over Caspian so I could put it to dedicated night-stand use without any worries.

InlineSpeeder
05-03-2007, 20:13
Caspian has some of the finest slides available you shouldn’t have to worry about reliability. Caspian also uses a better grade steel than the Glock’s. If I were given a choice I would take a Caspian slide before I would take a Glock slide.

TurboRocket
05-03-2007, 20:29
Originally posted by InlineSpeeder
Caspian has some of the finest slides available you shouldn’t have to worry about reliability. Caspian also uses a better grade steel than the Glock’s. If I were given a choice I would take a Caspian slide before I would take a Glock slide.

Don't get me wrong; I like Caspian. I would just prefer an all-factory gun if it is dedicated to SD. If it were just target/competition, I wouldn't have any worries.

saspic
08-15-2007, 05:49
http://glocktalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=727762
Man, I don't think anybody bothered to point out that the Lone Wolf Distributor GLOCK slides are out! They are, unfortunately, starting with the G22 slide, but their production line is up and running, and there is this from JR:
Originally posted by JR:
FYI: The G20/21 six inch slides will be soon to follow. Expect them by Fall. :hearts: :banana:
I had pretty much given up hope, but it looks like we are back on!:hugs:

BlackBelt
08-15-2007, 07:10
I'll be buying my first one from whichever quality manufacturer makes them.

Budsburgh
08-15-2007, 08:07
Any idea when they will be available for the Glock 20?
Thanks

saspic
08-15-2007, 08:53
Originally posted by JR:
FYI: The G20/21 six inch slides will be soon to follow. Expect them by Fall.
My best educated guess: sometime in the fall.;)
Seriously, I've pushed these guys far enough with the emails and phone calls, so I'm not going to pester them this close (I hope!) to the finish line.

caz223
08-16-2007, 08:19
Man this is good news. Last year they said the same thing, last fall, but it never happened.

I'm ready to go, I even already have the barrels, but waitin' on the slide.

dwebb210
08-17-2007, 13:55
I just called Caspian and inquired about long slides for Glocks.

I was told they don't have any current plans on making them.

(edited to indicate WHO I called)

caz223
08-17-2007, 14:44
Who did you call, caspian, LWD,or glock?

dwebb210
08-17-2007, 14:44
Sorry.

I called Caspian.

alwaysshootin
08-17-2007, 15:03
They should be available by Rocktober!!!!!! Perfect for deer season!

dwebb210
08-17-2007, 16:12
Suppose a person could send one of their stainless slides
someplace to get finished to look like a standard Glock slide?

Nice satin black?

dwebb210
08-17-2007, 16:34
Originally posted by alwaysshootin
They should be available by Rocktober!!!!!! Perfect for deer season!

I'm so confused.

WHO is hoping to have them by October?

LWD?

alwaysshootin
08-17-2007, 17:41
Originally posted by dwebb210
I'm so confused.

WHO is hoping to have them by October?

LWD?

First thing I said "Re: I just talked to LW! " LW is short for Lonewolf! Yes I talked to Don, and he said they should be available by October!

dwebb210
08-18-2007, 15:48
Originally posted by alwaysshootin
First thing I said "Re: I just talked to LW! " LW is short for Lonewolf! Yes I talked to Don, and he said they should be available by October!

Any idea who is going to be making them?

alwaysshootin
08-18-2007, 22:30
I don't know for sure, but I assumed it was made by LW. I thought I heard they were making their own barrels, and thought they had the CNC machinery to make the slides.

saspic
08-19-2007, 14:55
LWD is even making compensators. So far just for the 9mm, but I believe they said a .40 caliber compensator is already in the prototype stage. That would be very interesting on a G20.

Los Suenos
10-29-2007, 19:03
"ROCKTOBER" is about over. Maybe March or August?

mrgrinch
10-29-2007, 21:55
For the past few weeks, LWD has been saying mid december for the 10mm slides.

BRONZ1
10-30-2007, 07:50
I don't even have a G20 YET, but I know I would want a Long Slide for it when I get one.

Very Interested

DavidinSA
10-31-2007, 02:06
I am not too far away from starting on making my own one off 20L slide.
Maybe I will put it on hold for now if someone is actually going to be coming out with one. It would certainly save me a lot of time.
Maybe I will go on with my other plan of a longer than 6" slide.
Current rough calculations show that I can make a slide to fully support a 7.2" barrel and not have to modify the frame.

This is good news.
Keep us posted.
David

Mr. Big
11-01-2007, 05:38
For the past few weeks, LWD has been saying mid december for the 10mm slides.


Where have they been saying this?

Not doubting you, I just would like to keep track of developments first hand.

Thanks!

nickE10mm
11-01-2007, 12:00
Okay, people. The most recent information I've heard is that Lone Wolf will have the G20/21 longslides by December (this year).

Hopefully this happens as we all went through this game last year as well. Fingers crossed.

dwebb210
11-01-2007, 16:06
Where have they been saying this?

Not doubting you, I just would like to keep track of developments first hand.

Thanks!

That would be from the horse's mouth.

JR posted it on 10/12 here: link (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=727762&page=5)

saspic
12-12-2007, 21:34
Well, it's mid December and I got that Lone Wolf Flyer in the mail Tuesday. On page five it advertises their slides, and mentions the G20 long slide. So I emailed and JR responded to "look for it to arrive in January."
Yes, it's another delay, but have you noticed how they keep getting shorter and shorter? This date is just one month away, so I am getting very hopeful...:horsey:

Masque
12-14-2007, 14:12
Did he specify January of 2008?

Are you sure the delay just got shorter? ;)

JR
12-22-2007, 16:50
Just wanted to give you guys a heads up on LWD slide progress. We were supposed to receive our prototype "standard length" G20/21 slides Thursday 12/20. I checked the UPS tracking and find the shipment is delayed until next week. I don’t have them in hand today however they are finally a reality!
FYI: We are producing the standard slides first. I expect the 5.5 and 6 inch slides to follow within 4 weeks….. Just in time for SHOT Show

DaGroaner
12-22-2007, 16:53
Just wanted to give you guys a heads up on LWD slide progress. We were supposed to receive our prototype "standard length" G20/21 slides Thursday 12/20. I checked the UPS tracking and find the shipment is delayed until next week. I don’t have them in hand today however they are finally a reality!
FYI: We are producing the standard slides first. I expect the 5.5 and 6 inch slides to follow within 4 weeks….. Just in time for SHOT Show

Hi JR,

I was wondering if you were going to add an extended and ported barrel for the 6" LS?

REF: http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=650305

JR
12-22-2007, 16:58
No plans for a 7 inch barrel right now. Our focus is on the slides for now. We will most likely offer a threaded barrel once the six inch slides are standardized.

DaGroaner
12-22-2007, 17:03
No plans for a 7 inch barrel right now. Our focus is on the slides for now. We will most likely offer a threaded barrel once the six inch slides are standardized.

That's too bad, I think EFK is going to sell a lot of barrels to go with your slides. But I will be ordering a slide nonetheless and will be grateful to you for making it. I do love my ported LWD barrels, just so you know.

JR
12-22-2007, 17:10
I think you have the wrong idea regarding the EFK 7" barrel. Their barrel is a six inch standard barrel with an extra inch of porting attached to it. It is very similar to our extended 2 port barrels available for most Glock models. The advantage of a threaded barrel is that you could attach a comp to it. The comp is far more effective than 2 or 3 ports.
FYI: We currently produce comps for the 9 and 40. We are working on a 10mm and 45 comp now.

DaGroaner
12-22-2007, 17:16
I think you have the wrong idea regarding the EFK 7" barrel. Their barrel is a six inch standard barrel with an extra inch of porting attached to it. It is very similar to our extended 2 port barrels available for most Glock models. The advantage of a threaded barrel is that you could attach a comp to it. The comp is far more effective than 2 or 3 ports.
FYI: We currently produce comps for the 9 and 40. We are working on a 10mm and 45 comp now.

Well I am a very happy and satisfied LWD customer and will see what barrels and comp's you have available when it's time to place my order. Thanks.

dwebb210
12-22-2007, 22:31
I expect the 5.5 and 6 inch slides to follow within 4 weeks….. Just in time for SHOT Show

The longest 4 weeks of my life.

I want them now! :crying:

M4inCA
12-23-2007, 11:46
Just wanted to give you guys a heads up on LWD slide progress. We were supposed to receive our prototype "standard length" G20/21 slides Thursday 12/20. I checked the UPS tracking and find the shipment is delayed until next week. I don’t have them in hand today however they are finally a reality!
FYI: We are producing the standard slides first. I expect the 5.5 and 6 inch slides to follow within 4 weeks….. Just in time for SHOT Show

JR, I am looking forward to the 20/21 longslide being released. Will you be offering a slide/barrel combo? Also, with the G21 slide, can the G20 barrel be installed?

OH yea, one last Q for you. Do you know if the 6" will fit in the IDPA box? Or will the 5.5 fill that niche...

Thanks and hurry so you can take my money!!!

Happy holidays!

dwebb210
12-23-2007, 16:57
I'm curious to know if the 10mm Long slide will function as reliably
as the standard length slide with the additional mass, even with
a spring change. Or would it actually be better to cut out the
top of the slide like the 17L and the 24.

NWanner
12-23-2007, 21:28
I'd imagine a slightly heavier spring would be needed, but the extra mass would probably keep the muzzle down when firing hotter rounds. I too am wondering if a 10mm conversion barrel will be available for the G21L slide. That would pretty much be the deal breaker for me.

JR
12-24-2007, 16:31
M4inCA: Yes we will offer both the G20 and G21 slides as bare bones build it as you like it or as a complete "Open Class" and "Limited Class" top end. The g20 barrel has a smaller hood than the g21 so they will not interchange between the two. The six inch slide will not fit into "the box". The 5.5 does fit nicely!

Dwebb210: The original G21 six inch slides we offered ran excellent in their full configuration. I have not decided if we will leave them solid or open them up. The open slides will be more reliable with lighter loads

Nwanner: KKM is the only manufacture I am aware of that ever built the G21 10mm conversion barrels. This barrel was a good idea given the fact G20 slides were not readily available. They run about 95% efficient and were the best thing going at the time. Now that LWD has G20 slides on the shelf there is no further need for the conversion barrels.

dwebb210
12-24-2007, 17:11
Dwebb210: The original G21 six inch slides we offered ran excellent in their full configuration.
I have not decided if we will leave them solid or open them up.
The open slides will be more reliable with lighter loads



Thats got to be a tough call to make.

I know some people have stated they didn't care for the look of the
G17L or the G24 because of the open slides.

I would prefer closed, but not at the expense of reliability.

Heck, it might be worth considering it as an option.
Standard version is closed, for use with standard and full power 10mm loads.
Open version for use use with everything, including light loads and .40 S&W conversions.

If closed slides are 100% reliable with full power loads, that is what I want.
I have a G24 if I want to shoot wimpy 10mm rounds.

JR
12-24-2007, 17:35
FYI: I got this in the mail today
<img src="http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/glockm_35/LWD-SLIDE20.jpg">

dwebb210
12-24-2007, 17:37
FYI: I got this in the mail today
<img src="http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/glockm_35/LWD-SLIDE20.jpg">

Is it an illusion, or are the forward cocking serrations at a different
angle than the rear ones?

JR
12-24-2007, 17:40
Illusion!
I have both the g20 & G21 on my desk. They look, feel & shoot SWEET!

dwebb210
12-24-2007, 17:43
Illusion!
I have both the g20 & G21 on my desk. They look, feel & shoot SWEET!

http://home.mchsi.com/%7Ethe_reaper/homer_drool.jpg

http://www.fangamers.net/imagehosting/24847630711d27b2.jpg

JR
12-24-2007, 17:48
Now that is a COOL post! I can not tell you how many times I feel (and look) like that racoon

eddief4
12-24-2007, 21:26
http://www.fangamers.net/imagehosting/24847630711d27b2.jpg


:rofl::rofl:
i LOVE that pic:rofl:

steelvipersedg
12-25-2007, 02:53
I have wanted one of these for so long!

DavidinSA
12-25-2007, 08:36
Leave them solid.
They will work fine.
My .45 Longslide is 100% when shooting .45.
I would suspect that a 10mm Longslide of the same mass would shoot the same or better with 10mm rounds.
(The real problem is the tight chambers of the aftermarket barrels.)
If someone wants to reduce the mass of the slide then let them machine it to their specs.
One could reduce the mass considerably and still have a "solid" slide.
There are many places on the slide to reduce the mass without opening up the internals to the outside world like a G35.

Looking forward to the longslides.
David

JoeSnuffy
12-26-2007, 19:56
If closed slides are 100% reliable with full power loads, that is what I want.
I have a G24 if I want to shoot wimpy 10mm rounds.


DITTO!

nickE10mm
12-26-2007, 20:57
Leave them solid.
They will work fine.
My .45 Longslide is 100% when shooting .45.
I would suspect that a 10mm Longslide of the same mass would shoot the same or better with 10mm rounds.
(The real problem is the tight chambers of the aftermarket barrels.)
If someone wants to reduce the mass of the slide then let them machine it to their specs.
One could reduce the mass considerably and still have a "solid" slide.
There are many places on the slide to reduce the mass without opening up the internals to the outside world like a G35.

Looking forward to the longslides.
David

I'm TOTALLY with David on this one. Leave the slides solid. Assuming they are MADE for 10mm, they will run like champs.

JoeSnuffy
12-26-2007, 22:07
Email received from JR this evening

The only problem I have is that the main shipment of slides has not
arrived. We expect them late next week. All I have is the prototypes

The six inch slides will be available later this month (January). Please
check back in a couple weeks.

JR

Los Suenos
12-26-2007, 22:41
http://home.mchsi.com/%7Ethe_reaper/homer_drool.jpg

http://www.fangamers.net/imagehosting/24847630711d27b2.jpg


That's great :wavey:

steelvipersedg
12-27-2007, 03:01
Ohh I so can't wait!

dwebb210
12-31-2007, 23:02
Leave them solid.
They will work fine.
My .45 Longslide is 100% when shooting .45.


What does your .45 longslide weigh compared to the OEM Glock .45 slide?
How do you know they don't weigh the same?

Is your .45 longslide 100% with all loads? Have you tried light loads?
Are you using a stock recoil spring?

I'm concerned about the difference in weight between the stock G21 slide
and the stock G20 slide, since they share the same recoil spring.
A G21 slide weighs 472 grams, while a G20 slide weighs 492 grams.
(according to my wife's digital kitchen balance)

Obviously there is a reason for this.

Will adding an ounce of steel to the slide by increasing it's length an inch
cause problems? Would it be better to try to keep the weight of the
slide the same?

As already stated, there is plenty of material on the inside surface of the
sides of the slide to shed some weight so the longslide weighs the same
as the stock slide. As can be seen by the pics posted by G20man32904.
(G20 slide on the left, G21 slide on the right)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/g20man/DSC00745.jpg

DavidinSA
01-02-2008, 04:41
I will weigh the slide in a few days for you.
I do not have a G21 slide to compare, but will weigh my G20 slide.
I have only tried 4 or 5 flavors of ammo on the .45.
A couple of Wally World specials and then some DT loads.
They all worked without a single FTF with about 500 rounds.
This is with a KKM .45 barrel.
I was running the stock G20 recoil spring.
When the 10mm Longslides come out, I plan to buy several and experiment with slide weights.
Attaching and removing weight to see how the weight effects cycling and reliability.


David

P.S. I have shot weak .40's in my G20 with the stock slide and never had a FTF.

Mik
01-02-2008, 23:19
ohboyohboyohboy!!! can't wait for this! :wow:

tistick
01-03-2008, 10:23
I've never owned a glock, but would like to piece together a g20l.
Is there a source for the g20 frame or is my only option to buy a complete pistol? Glockmeister told me they don't sell frames.

DaGroaner
01-03-2008, 11:25
I've never owned a glock, but would like to piece together a g20l.
Is there a source for the g20 frame or is my only option to buy a complete pistol? Glockmeister told me they don't sell frames.

I've looked long and hard. You can buy after market stainless, aluminum and titanium frames for other Glock models but I've never been able to find a G20 frame for sale anywhere.

steelvipersedg
01-03-2008, 13:58
It is getting close now!!

dwebb210
01-03-2008, 22:20
Regarding the mass of the slides... I found this interesting.

The G17, G17L, G22, and G24 all use the same recoil spring.
According to the Armorers manual, the mass of the
G17 = 625 grams
G17L = 670 grams.

Even though this is the mass of the entire firearm, the only difference
between the two is in the slide.

A difference of 45 grams, or 1.59 ounces.

HOWEVER, look at the G22 and the G24.
You would assume a similar difference in weight, since the
G24 is basically a G22L.

According to the Armorers manual, the mass of the
G22 = 650 grams
G24 = 757 grams

I'm not sure if that is accurate, because I don't have a G22 to confirm it.

But according to Glock, that is a difference of 107 grams, or 3.77 ounces.

Hoopty
01-04-2008, 03:27
I may have missed this (long thread), but is there a difference in mass of the G20C and G20 slides?

dwebb210
01-04-2008, 07:31
I may have missed this (long thread), but is there a difference in mass of the G20C and G20 slides?

There is a difference of 10 grams in the entire firearm,
which includes the reduced mass of the slide and barrel.
(according to the armorer's manual)

DaGroaner
01-11-2008, 21:27
JR: Is there any chance that you might offer a complete LS top end with TFO's, a threaded barrel and a recoil spring?

JR
01-12-2008, 01:56
You can purchase the slides and put anything you want on them. We sell THOUSANDS of parts! Pick the slide you want…. Pick the parts you want. Tell us if you want it complete or to ship it in a bag and you do it yourself.

Pretty Cool Huh?

steelvipersedg
01-12-2008, 05:22
You can purchase the slides and put anything you want on them. We sell THOUSANDS of parts! Pick the slide you want…. Pick the parts you want. Tell us if you want it complete or to ship it in a bag and you do it yourself.

Pretty Cool Huh?

:wow:More than pretty cool. It is awsome if only more companies would be like LWD.:cool:
THANKS:wavey:

DaGroaner
01-12-2008, 07:55
:wow:More than pretty cool. It is awsome if only more companies would be like LWD.:cool:
THANKS:wavey:

Ditto. You guys are great.

eddief4
01-12-2008, 09:56
Ditto. You guys are great.

their Awesome!!

DavidinSA
01-13-2008, 19:56
http://www.lonewolfdist.com/Products.aspx?CAT=247

Tom Krein
01-15-2008, 16:52
I am so in on this!! HOW COOL! A longslide 10mm Glock.

....are they ready yet??:wavey:

Tom

DaGroaner
01-23-2008, 21:59
Any news?

JR
01-24-2008, 00:31
The G20/21 long slides are due here any day. We will be featuring them at SHOT Show in Las Vegas February 2-5. I expect to have them available to the general masses by the end of the month

DaGroaner
01-24-2008, 08:36
The G20/21 long slides are due here any day. We will be featuring them at SHOT Show in Las Vegas February 2-5. I expect to have them available to the general masses by the end of the month

That is awesome! I have a couple more questions....

Would you recommend painting them with Duracoat to make them black?

Will you have threaded barrels available for them also?

Which recoil spring do you recommend for full-power loads?

JR
01-24-2008, 10:09
We will be offering a black stainless coating that is far superior to Duracoat or Ceracoat. It is similar to what Para is offering today.
Our slides are designed to work with factory recoil springs and/or stainless guide rods & aftermarket springs. This way you can turn your load to the gun!
We currently offer six inch threaded barrels for the 17L,24. We will offer the same for these once they become available (one step at a time)

DaGroaner
01-24-2008, 10:15
We will be offering a black stainless coating that is far superior to Duracoat or Ceracoat. It is similar to what Para is offering today.
Our slides are designed to work with factory recoil springs and/or stainless guide rods & aftermarket springs. This way you can turn your load to the gun!
We currently offer six inch threaded barrels for the 17L,24. We will offer the same for these once they become available (one step at a time)

So will the 6" barrel that you currently offer work for the time being?

nickE10mm
01-24-2008, 11:03
The G20/21 long slides are due here any day. We will be featuring them at SHOT Show in Las Vegas February 2-5. I expect to have them available to the general masses by the end of the month

Wow. Incredible. Lone Wolf is really making me happy.

JR
01-24-2008, 12:02
The 17L and 24 barrels fit their appropriate slides only. They will not fit G20/21 slides.

We do not have six inch threaded barrels for the 20/21 today however WILL offer them in the near future

Tom Krein
01-24-2008, 12:44
WAHOO!!

THANKS for keeping us up to date!

Tom

DaGroaner
01-24-2008, 13:47
Hey JR. Will the 6" 10mm barrel that you currently offer work with the LSs for the time being until the threaded barrels come out?

JR
01-24-2008, 14:38
Yes our standard six inch barrels will work with the long slides

DaGroaner
01-24-2008, 16:07
Yes our standard six inch barrels will work with the long slides

Excellent. Thanks.

garyandtricia
01-28-2008, 19:26
Got this from JR today:

We expect to have them by the end of February. Six inch slides will run $250
JR

Thanks JR

saspic
01-29-2008, 21:29
Thanks for the update GaryandTricia. Now I won't wear out my refresh button hitting it every few minutes checking to see if they've hit the store yet. At least not for another month. Sigh...:crying:

nickn
01-30-2008, 03:08
any pics or a preview? I am interested in a 6" setup :)

saspic
02-16-2008, 06:09
Well, the G34 and G35 slides are out! I thought we were next...:crying: I guess that puts us one step closer?
This is starting to feel like a voyage of the damned.
http://www.lonewolfdist.com/Products.aspx?CAT=247
Just In - M/34 & 35 Slides - $199.95

The wait is over! LWD will be shipping slides for the model 34 & 35 starting Wednesday, February 20. Pre-order online now.

Lone Wolf Distributors custom Glock slides provide the features serious shooters demand. First and foremost LWD slides are designed after the current production 3rd generation Glock original slide, the strongest ever offered. Second, they include the most sought after custom features at no additional charge. These special custom features include front & rear cocking serrations, beveled rails lowered ejection port and bull nose (for custom laser engraving call Dan at 208-437-0612 ext 109). Manufactured from forged 416 stainless and hardened to 42/46 Rockwell. Call for more information. You are purchasing a bare slide only. All internal parts, barrel, sights etc. must be purchase separately.

LWD-SLIDE34. Will easily convert current production G22,24,31,35 FGR frames to fire 9mm.

LWD-SLIDE35. Will easily convert current production G17/17L/34/37 FGR frames to fire 40 S&W and/or 357 Sig.

Mjames
02-16-2008, 15:48
:bump:

JR
02-16-2008, 16:36
Well we hit a couple snags with the 20/21 long slides. We were supposed to have at least 1 for SHOT but it did not arrive so we were stuck showing off our old German model produced by Oberland. Once I returned from SHOT I gave the go-ahead to continue the 34/35 project because we were very close to finish. As you can see they are now available. Our next production will have to be the 17L and 24 simply because it will finish the line completely. Yeah.... this is quite an accomplishment! LWD has produced all the 9/40/357 slides in less than a year. No other company in the history of GLOCK has ever come close.
This current development is not necessarily bad news! Yes it is another delay in the 20/21 L project however..... the tooling that is required to produce the 20/21 L series is also the same tooling required for the 34/35 and 17L/24. I can tell you now the 20/21 will not be available by the end of February but March is looking good.

Suburban
02-17-2008, 00:46
I can tell you now the 20/21 will not be available by the end of February but March is looking good.

:crying:

I was really looking forward to a 20T slide.

Are the complete slides delayed also? The website says, "Please check for availability 2/16/08."

saspic
02-17-2008, 08:24
Oh. My. God.
We are like Charlie Brown running at that dern football over and over and over.
"I promise I won't pull it away this time, Charlie Brown."
"Okay, Lucy. Waauuuggggh!" Crash!

It-It's like the Great Pumpkin all over again.

"I got a GLOCK 34."
"I got a GLOCK 24."
"We got a rock. :okie:
Again."
:sigh:

dwebb210
02-18-2008, 20:52
:impatient:

DaGroaner
02-18-2008, 21:36
Oh. My. God.
We are like Charlie Brown running at that dern football over and over and over.
"I promise I won't pull it away this time, Charlie Brown."
"Okay, Lucy. Waauuuggggh!" Crash!

It-It's like the Great Pumpkin all over again.

"I got a GLOCK 34."
"I got a GLOCK 24."
"We got a rock. :okie:
Again."
:sigh:

Until you've joined the ranks of Saiga fanatics you have no idea how bad it can be. This is a walk in the park in comparison.

DavidinSA
02-19-2008, 16:22
As long as the 20L is still on and will be out in a few months that will be cool.

David

freakshow10mm
02-19-2008, 22:03
Colorado Glocker is over on the 10mmtalk.com forum and he got an email today from JR at LWD. The 6 inch slides will be ready by the end of Frebruary and will cost $250.

http://www.10mmtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=7612

dwebb210
02-19-2008, 22:38
Colorado Glocker is over on the 10mmtalk.com forum and he got an email today from JR at LWD. The 6 inch slides will be ready by the end of Frebruary and will cost $250.

http://www.10mmtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=7612

That post is old, and who knows how much older the email to him was.

Look 6 posts above yours in this thread.
JR said February was not possible.
March looked better.

freakshow10mm
02-19-2008, 22:44
Didn't look. Just saw it and brought it over here.

DavidinSA
02-19-2008, 22:53
I already have some special order barrels coming in from Austria for a project with the 20L slides. Hope they don't drag on forever but I would rather wait a few months than to have them rushed and not produced correctly.

David

Clarkbar
02-19-2008, 23:58
I need to have my Bar-Sto G21L 10mm conversion barrel fitted down into the new G20L slide from LWD, and then have a new Bar-Sto 45 ACP barrel fitted to my Oberland Arms slide.

Then, of course, I am hoping for the G20T slides from LWD!!!! :whistling:

And stainless G21 frames from CCF!!! :whistling:

Glock1911
02-20-2008, 09:08
I'm definitely on line for a complete G20L upper.

Clarkbar
02-20-2008, 09:27
I already have some special order barrels coming in from Austria for a project with the 20L slides. Hope they don't drag on forever but I would rather wait a few months than to have them rushed and not produced correctly.

David,

What's the story with your incoming barrels?

ILikeFtLbs
02-20-2008, 20:06
Sorry LWD, but now I'm losing interest. By the time it comes out, I'll have forgotten to be watching.

DavidinSA
02-27-2008, 21:03
Clarkbar,

I was in the middle of drawings to make my own custom longslide with a long barrel of yet to be determined length.
Then JR said he was coming out with the 20L's so I got to thinking that it would be easier to machine and combine 2 slides from JR than machine my own.
The barrels I have ordered are still in the process of being made from the latest correspondence.
I have them making a 7" and a 10" long barrel.
Looks like a 10" slide is the limit and not have to modify the frame.
I will keep you all posted when it starts to happen.

David

DavidinSA
03-01-2008, 23:16
Just noticed that Lone Wolf has their 34 and 35 slides out.
I know that JR said they already were out but just in case anybody missed his post.
Hopefully that means that the G20L will be out in a month or so.

David

freakshow10mm
03-02-2008, 12:16
End of March.

Quarterbore
03-06-2008, 12:17
My credit card keeps calling to me... It says, "you need a Glock 20 longslide upper...." Please oh please let this happen soon or I am going to wear out this bookmark :crying:

Quarterbore
03-17-2008, 08:53
The worst part is the waiting... I hoped once they released the G19 longslides we would hear something. :dunno:

alwaysshootin
03-17-2008, 16:26
Sorry LWD, but now I'm losing interest. By the time it comes out, I'll have forgotten to be watching.

Not to mention the 20 LS are going to be 50 bucks more than the other slides offered. Nah, my 6 inch barrel works just fine sitting in the standard length slide!

Suburban
03-17-2008, 16:44
[TOM PETTY]The waiting is the hardest part.[/TOM PETTY]

G17 slides still on backorder
G20T slides not out yet
Complete slides were supposed to be available yesterday, after a 1 month set-back

Getting frustrated. :faint:

JR
03-17-2008, 17:37
We received 50 G17 slides Friday, they all sold out by Monday. Good news is that we have more in route now. Expect 17,22 and 19 slides to arrive by Friday

The G20/21 long slides and 17L/24 should arrive around the end of the month.

Complete slides are available (sorta). We have most all the internal parts but running low on barrels (same with the slides if you didn't already notice). I expect we will be back in the flow of things around the end of the month when everything is expected to arrive



Yes the G20/21 long slides will be a little more money than we expected however they are less than 1/2 the price of previously produced slides (Oberland) which sold at $500 to $600. If you took the time to compare our slide to a Caspian which sells at $225 with no extra features and a similar CCF at $250 (they talk about them but I aint seen it) you will see ours is the best deal going.

susan28
03-17-2008, 20:54
28 <~~~~ still in.

just ordered a pair of Hex sights from Goshen, hope these slides don't have sights melted on..

pjanthony
03-20-2008, 15:47
The G20/21 long slides and 17L/24 should arrive around the end of the month.

Complete slides are available (sorta). We have most all the internal parts but running low on barrels (same with the slides if you didn't already notice). I expect we will be back in the flow of things around the end of the month when everything is expected to arrive.


J.R.,

Today, I just bought my new G21SF to use as a frame for buidling a G20L.

A) Is is possible for me to "pre-purchase" / "cash up-front" a LWD G20 long slide, barrel and slide internals ( a complete upper)? I am ready to purchase today and patiently wait for the eventual delivery if this is possible.

B) Also, will it be possible to send in a LWD G20L slide and have you all install one of your new LWD HWS sights?

Thanks for any info and thanks for helping all of us by a part of the fun!

JR
03-20-2008, 16:11
Sorry, I don't presell anything unless it is confirmed shipped (to me). I can assure you the slides are on the machine and we have a pretty good supply of internal parts. I doubt we are going to run out of the first delivery. I have a pretty good supply of six inch G20 barrels in 10,40,357. Temporally out of stock of the six inch G20 9x25.

Sorry, I do not know what the HWS sight is?

pjanthony
03-20-2008, 18:38
Sorry, I don't presell anything unless it is confirmed shipped (to me). I can assure you the slides are on the machine and we have a pretty good supply of internal parts. I doubt we are going to run out of the first delivery. I have a pretty good supply of six inch G20 barrels in 10,40,357. Temporally out of stock of the six inch G20 9x25.

Sorry, I do not know what the HWS sight is?

Thanks for the reassurances on the forthcoming long slide availability.

"HWS" - maybe an incorrect anachronym; I am interested in having LWD install one of your small, slide red-dot sights on a G20 long slide when they are available:

http://www.lonewolfdist.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=4909

Thanks again for the info.

M4inCA
03-30-2008, 10:45
It's now officially the end of march, what's the good word JR?

Waiting patiently for the G21/20 5.5" longslide & barrel

susan28
03-30-2008, 11:18
5.5" ? not 6" ? and what is this "T" stuff about?

Los Suenos
03-30-2008, 17:16
Are these going to have the holes in the top like the 9mm/.40/357sig slides have? I hope not. I would have bought one of your other long slides but you put the damn hole in the top!

JR
03-30-2008, 17:24
Well the official word is that the slides have not shipped yet. The good news is that we have several thousand barrels in rout this week but no slides. I will talk with our machinists later this week and see if we can determine a delivery date.



Our plan is to offer a 5.5 and a 6 inch. When somebody mentions a T slide the most likely are referring to Tactical. The G34/35 are "tactical" models. Lone Wolf will most likely stick with L and XL. I don't want to joust with Glock inc in another legal hearing. (It cost me $25K the last time)

Yes these slides will have the holes in them. The holes are there because it is easiest to remove weight from the top of the slide. Our L/XL slides will weigh the same as a standard slide so you wont have to change your loads.

Los Suenos
03-30-2008, 18:06
Thanks for the quick reply.

Quarterbore
03-31-2008, 12:38
I hope you are stocking up on Glock 20 mags too...

I predict when you finally announce these are available you will have a very busy period in the office.

Note to self need shopping list:
Glock 20 longslide
6-inch 10mm barrel
six glock 20 mags (to start)
Glock 20 recoil spring

Is this everything I should epect to need to have a complete conversion kit for my Glock 21 so I can use her with this new upper or do I need to order all of the slide parts, sights, etc as well?

I would love to see a complete slide option if possible.

Clarkbar
03-31-2008, 19:57
5.5" ? not 6" ? and what is this "T" stuff about?

I designated the "practical/tactical" length of the G20 longslide the G20T!!!!

:tongueout:

ETA: JR SEE MY POST BELOW . . . :crying:

Clarkbar
03-31-2008, 20:00
Yes these slides will have the holes in them. The holes are there because it is easiest to remove weight from the top of the slide. Our L/XL slides will weigh the same as a standard slide so you wont have to change your loads.

WHAT !!??!??!!?!?!????? :wow:

Why are you doing that?!? :crying:

That totally defeats the purpose of getting a G20L . . . :dunno:

Rawhide20
03-31-2008, 20:04
I bet the 5.5" slide for the G20 will be a top seller. The 6" I had just felt too long. The price of these new ones is also attractive. I had about $750 in my Oberland slide and Jarvis barrel. And besides, the 5.5" guns are just more useful. Kinda why I sold my 24 and kept my 35.

So if I already have a 6" LW 10mm barrel, it should fit and function in these new slides, right?

JR, could you comment on the accuracy of these units at 25 and 50 yards (5 shot groups)?

RH

JR
03-31-2008, 20:32
The barrel has more to do with accuracy than the slide. These top ends will shoot for sure.

Clarkbar
03-31-2008, 20:43
The barrel has more to do with accuracy than the slide. These top ends will shoot for sure.

I'm sure they will. However, there will be virtually no recoil reduction compared to a stock G20 with a Glock Factory Hunting Barrel.

I was hoping to convert my Oberland Arms slide back to 45ACP and install the 10mm barrel in one of your slides, but that will give me a VERY soft recoiling 45 and a 10mm with no recoil reduction.

Can you have slides made w/o the lightening?

JR
03-31-2008, 21:12
I disagree. Compare the recoil of a G17 against that of a 34 or 17L. The slides are very close in weight yet the recoil is substantially different. This will also be true with our long slides.

I will have a second run of slides started right after the first is delivered. It will most likely be submitted within a month, so I can gather feed back regarding the initial delivery. Any changes or modifications will be considered at that time. Production of the second run will be approximately 6 to 8 weeks. It will be much faster now because now the learning curve is way behind us.

Rawhide20
03-31-2008, 21:18
The barrel has more to do with accuracy than the slide. These top ends will shoot for sure.

Thank you for the comments.

Don't the individual components function as a team? That is to say accuracy is based on how consistantly the slide and barrel lock up from shot to shot.

So could you be more specific in terms on accuracy?

RH

Bringsteen
04-01-2008, 18:56
My interest in a longslide was that it would make shooting high-power loads easier--on me and on my G20. I can use my 6" barrel with a normal slide and get the accuracy and velocity advantages. If the longslide weighs the same as the regular slide, then the only advantage is the sight radius. That seems to defeat the purpose.

I am still very interested, I just don't know what to do now.

dwebb210
04-01-2008, 19:13
My only objection to the hole in the top of the slide is that the
Tru-Glo TFO front sights that I already purchased will hang over
edge of the hole. And for this build's purpose, that sucks.

susan28
04-01-2008, 20:38
i'm not interested in the LEAST.. i wanted this slide for one thing and one thing only: WEIGHT FOR SOFTER SHOOT AND QUICKER FOLLOW UPS.. i thought, "this'll be great, the weight of a steel gun, the reliability and simplicity of a Glock" .. only to be offered something so *completely* opposite of what this project has been about from the get-go.. and to think i sold my KKM barrel and passed up the Oberland for this.

so are the 5.5's lightened as well, then?

frankly i'm speechless. it still seems like some kinda sick joke..

WAIT A MINUTE!!! IT'S APRIL 1ST!! JR... is this an April Fool's joke?

Clarkbar
04-01-2008, 21:29
frankly i'm speechless. it still seems like some kinda sick joke..

WAIT A MINUTE!!! IT'S APRIL 1ST!! JR... is this an April Fool's joke?

It IS a joke . . . just not the April Fool's kind . . . :rant:

DavidinSA
04-01-2008, 23:16
Easy people, JR had to make some decisions and focus on reliability for all levels of shooters.
Yes, I was hoping for a solid slide and then was going to machine on it myself to optimize the weight along with another project I have in mind.
Still doesn't stop me from my planned purchase but does make me rethink my project design.
If necessary, I can always machine a plug for the opening and press or weld it to the slide if I want to add weight.
Also, maybe JR ran into some cycling issues with the increased slide weight.
Don't know.
My Oberland worked flawless with .45 so I wouldn't think the increased weight would matter too much to the 10mm.
Let's remember that JR has been the only one to take on this project and produce a slide instead of just talking about it.
For that reason alone I will purchase from him based on a principle.
I just hope my 10 inch barrels come in soon for my project.

Thanks JR,

David

susan28
04-02-2008, 09:33
David: i'm sure this - like all LW products - is a fine product - and kudos to JR for giving 10mm shooters more options by making it - but it bears little resemblance, spec-wise, to the project we've all been onboard with since ColoradoGlocker made the gun that started it all, hence the frustration of many here, and the fact that many of us gave up the chance to get the Oberland/KKM combo when it was available based on the promise of this slide eventually materialising is just salt in the wound.

who knows, this slide could very well shoot even better than the Oberland, it just wasn't what we bargained for, is all.

i'll look forward to the reviews - especially from those who currently own the Oberland - but will be abstaining from purchase for now.

eddief4
04-02-2008, 09:54
JR,

you should give the GlockTalk crowd a discount on the slides. cause of all the info were givin you :whistling:








worth a try:supergrin:

steve2870
04-02-2008, 12:57
Ive been following this thread for a long time and just want to thank JR for putting his money on the line to produce this product.

triehl27
04-02-2008, 14:11
I like many am waiting, maybe a little less patiently now. Last I was told was that they would be IN HAND on april 1st, called 4/1 and was told to call back next week. Like many things that take time I will have to wait, as will everyone. I personally have no feeling towards the cut out or not.

Although I did find out that there are 4000 barrels coming with the order, I could not get an answer as to how many slides were in the order jsut that there were plenty coming. Kinda disappointed as I end up feeling like if I want one of the slides I have to stay Jonny on the spot for it. i recently missed a scope deal because they sold out in 6 hours on the HUGE order that was coming and there would be plenty for everyone. Im feeling the same here, This is a HUGE order (with the barrels) but there are ALOT of people viaing for these slides, and I feel if I miss it by a day I may be SOL.

I just want it to get here.

Los Suenos
04-02-2008, 14:57
I'm waiting until the next batch. Hopefully they will be holeless.

I hate ho's, ho's hate me, I hate ho's, ho's hate me... - YYT's

Quarterbore
04-04-2008, 19:26
I hate to admit it but I am not sure I am interested in a stock weight upper either. The reason I am interested is to get a longer slide with better sight radius for hunting and I want to be hunting with heavy 10mm loads.

This slide is not for match shooting or range plinking for me, I want a work gun and like others above I think having a little extra mass would be a good thing.

May I ask if Lonewolf built prototypes both ways and have you done reliablity tests on both? Can you please consider doing so for the next set as shipping a milling step for the top mill should be easy enough to do. If you need a test dummy, I would be glad to test both versions with a variety of ammo and report the results too. I will even return the upper I like least and pay for the other one so you end up with one used test upper :supergrin:

Regardless, I am disapointed as well as I did not expect the holes but I would need to see some data and some reviews before I can deside if this is really bad or not.

DavidinSA
04-05-2008, 03:57
I hope you guys haven't given JR a coronary.

I too was hoping for a slide without the cutout but understand that JR had to make a decision at some point and obviously decided that the weight reduction was important.
Maybe he got talked into it.
Maybe it really made a difference in reliability.
I don't know.
I am still going to purchase several for my project and I am sure as soon as they are out that there will be a flood of range reports.
I am going to start looking at a way to safely and temporarily add weight to the slide to see the effect it has on shooting and reliability.

Hang in there everyone, it will work out.

David

87'vette
04-05-2008, 10:39
I'm getting one! With or without hole, doesn't matter.

Mik
04-05-2008, 13:42
I'm getting one! With or without hole, doesn't matter.

yup, i'm in too. :supergrin:

HAVOC
04-05-2008, 22:36
I hope you guys haven't given JR a coronary.

I too was hoping for a slide without the cutout but understand that JR had to make a decision at some point and obviously decided that the weight reduction was important.
Maybe he got talked into it.
Maybe it really made a difference in reliability.
I don't know.
I am still going to purchase several for my project and I am sure as soon as they are out that there will be a flood of range reports.
I am going to start looking at a way to safely and temporarily add weight to the slide to see the effect it has on shooting and reliability.

Hang in there everyone, it will work out.

David

Well he needs to pay closer attention to his market.

10mm shooters are not your average schmo. Anyone shooting Hydra-Shoks in their custom 6" upper deserves stoppages.

Aside from the weight problem, the cutout is a HUGE, MONSTROUS ****up from a sights standpoint. Even Trij fronts hang over on 17Ls, TFOs? Fuggetabout it.

I was planning on getting 2 or 3 of them, but with the cutout? I may get one, depending on how kludged the front sight mounting turns out to be. If the sights are protected, a cutout slide with a 24C style barrel would be pretty damn cool... otherwise? meh... at best.

Neal
04-08-2008, 17:40
<snip> - but it bears little resemblance, spec-wise, to the project we've all been onboard with since ColoradoGlocker made the gun that started <snip>



susan28, can you explain what you mean by above statement. How is this new slide from Lone Wolf different from the project you refer to, other than maybe the weight reduction cutout?

P220ST
04-10-2008, 12:37
I'll be getting one hole or no hole. Would like a 5.5 inch to mimic my G35. I'll take a 6 inch if thats the only option. I just hope the front cut-out allows "normal" sights to fit. I have no issues with my G35 and Heinie sights.

susan28
04-10-2008, 17:14
susan28, can you explain what you mean by above statement. How is this new slide from Lone Wolf different from the project you refer to, other than maybe the weight reduction cutout?

that's it, the cutout. the weight reduces recoil, and recoil reduction and reduced muzzle flip is what most of us were after, as the velocity can be gained from simply using the longer barrel, as can the recoil reduction from using a longer (hence heavier) barrel.

the longer sight radius is nice for hunters or long-range target shooters, so it's not like the lighter slide is useless - it has many beneifts, including cosmetic - but not the biggie that most of us were hyped about.

it's not so much the end result but the communications issue that broadsided us. like the man said, never assume. *i* sold my kkm barrel and *i* literally hung up the phone with BarSto while in the process of ordering one of the 3 remaining Oberlands in the world based on the posted promise of a "10mm version", and *i* take full responsibility for that. my bad. ::shrugging::

me, i just spent the slide money i've had set aside for the last 2 years on some experimental porting, since sight radius and enhanced accuracy was never my interest anyway, i was only after the softer shot and quicker follow ups. i just figured hey, if some extra velocity comes with that, fine.

of course, even if the porting *does* work as advertised it'd be all the better on a heavy longslide, which would also make up for any velocity loss :) so if JR comes out with them now i might end up spending double :)

bigger AND better always works well :)

Neal
04-10-2008, 17:41
that's it, the cutout. the weight reduces recoil, and recoil reduction and reduced muzzle flip is what most of us were after, as the velocity can be gained from simply using the longer barrel, as can the recoil reduction from using a longer (hence heavier) barrel.

the longer sight radius is nice for hunters or long-range target shooters, so it's not like the lighter slide is useless - it has many beneifts, including cosmetic - but not the biggie that most of us were hyped about.

it's not so much the end result but the communications issue that broadsided us. like the man said, never assume. *i* sold my kkm barrel and *i* literally hung up the phone with BarSto while in the process of ordering one of the 3 remaining Oberlands in the world based on the posted promise of a "10mm version", and *i* take full responsibility for that. my bad. ::shrugging::

me, i just spent the slide money i've had set aside for the last 2 years on some experimental porting, since sight radius and enhanced accuracy was never my interest anyway, i was only after the softer shot and quicker follow ups. i just figured hey, if some extra velocity comes with that, fine.

of course, even if the porting *does* work as advertised it'd be all the better on a heavy longslide, which would also make up for any velocity loss :) so if JR comes out with them now i might end up spending double :)

bigger AND better always works well :)

My take on the cutout is the designer (JR?) has to make the slide work with factory ammo. Not everyone is a handloader or uses Doubletap ammo. If the slide is too heavy to function reliably with standard ammo, Lonewolf will catch hell from those customers. Thanks much for the reply. :)

susan28
04-10-2008, 17:46
my pleasure Neal. the more voices here the better, thanks for weighing in. (no pun intended :rofl:).

Neal
04-10-2008, 20:33
my pleasure Neal. the more voices here the better, thanks for weighing in. (no pun intended :rofl:).


"Weighing in" hardy har har..:supergrin: I have owned a Glock 24 and a 17L, but no longer have them. However, I think a 20 longslide will be a keeper. BTW, who makes a holster for a 6" 20/21? Oh yea, NOBODY! Looks like an open end shoulder rig or belt slide is about it...... I have my credit card ready whenever JR says they have arrived.

dwebb210
04-10-2008, 20:40
"Weighing in" hardy har har..:supergrin: I have owned a Glock 24 and a 17L, but no longer have them. However, I think a 20 longslide will be a keeper. BTW, who makes a holster for a 6" 20/21? Oh yea, NOBODY! Looks like an open end shoulder rig or belt slide is about it...... I have my credit card ready whenever JR says they have arrived.

Comp-Tac C-T.A.C. "slide".

freakshow10mm
04-10-2008, 23:22
Still waiting.

HAVOC
04-10-2008, 23:34
My take on the cutout is the designer (JR?) has to make the slide work with factory ammo. Not everyone is a handloader or uses Doubletap ammo. If the slide is too heavy to function reliably with standard ammo, Lonewolf will catch hell from those customers. Thanks much for the reply. :)

He seemed OK selling the full profile Oberland slides... if creampuff 10mm ammo won't cycle, neither will creampuff 45s...

Neal
04-11-2008, 12:17
Comp-Tac C-T.A.C. "slide".

That's an inside waistband holster! You would carry a 6" Glock 20 or 21 IWB? Holy cow.......:shocked:

dwebb210
04-11-2008, 12:25
That's an inside waistband holster! You would carry a 6" Glock 20 or 21 IWB? Holy cow.......:shocked:

I guess I'm used to carrying things larger than 6" in my pants.

:tongueout:

Rexx
04-11-2008, 13:30
que rimshot! http://www.rolldabeats.com/forum/style_emoticons/rdbv1/rimshot.gif

With the Oberland Arms slide I have, I haven't run into any problems cycling with "creampuff" :rofl: ammo.

saspic
04-11-2008, 14:08
My take on the cutout is the designer (JR?) has to make the slide work with factory ammo. Not everyone is a handloader or uses Doubletap ammo. If the slide is too heavy to function reliably with standard ammo, Lonewolf will catch hell from those customers.<snip> :)
Obviously reliability is the reason, but I doubt many going out of their way to buy a custom 6" slide for their 10mm GLOCK would be shooting creampuff loads. Why bother with a velocity increasing extended slide if you want softer loads? You could do that with a shorter, stock barrel.
And if the low-velocity low-pressure .45 ACP six inch slides were fine with the extra weight, I'm certain any decent 10mm round would cycle the longslide just fine.
Comp-Tac C-T.A.C. "slide".

I use one of these with a G20 with a 6" barrel right now. Of course the barrel sticks way out of the stock slide, but anyway, the holster accomadates it fine. 6" is about my limit on a gun barrel. Any longer and every time I sat down, the muzzle would press into the chair and push the gun up out of the holster!