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mistahglock17
02-11-2007, 23:33
eto na po sila! mga artista na nag nanais na maging pulitiko dahil siguro ma-i-improve pag arte nila sa politics kesa sa harap na kamera.

sabagay, di kumpleto ang circus kapag walang clowns - mga artistang ewan ko kung ano magagawa sa gobyerno maliban sa madadagdagan na naman mga 15-30days govt employees na sasahod ng wala naman ginawa kundi matulog sa senado.

teka... ano ba nagawa ni Richard 'Goma' Gomez sa Sports? di ba isinuka yan dahil sa sobrang yabang!!! :banana:

Circus atmosphere reigns at Comelec on last day of filing
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/nation/view_article.php?article_id=48968

MANILA, Philippines -- Noise, color, and celebrity marked the last day for the filing of the certificates of candidacy for the Senate at the Commission on Elections (Comelec) on Monday, as candidates trooped to Intramuros in Manila with their families and supporters.

Despite an earlier reminder on decorum from Comelec executive director Pio Jose Joson, officials and employees of the poll body crowded around Senator Francis Pangilinan, who was with wife, actress-singer Sharon Cuneta; Senator Ralph Recto, who came with his wife, Lipa Mayor and award-winning actress Vilma Santos, and stepson, actor Luis Manzano; former presidential chief of staff Michael Defensor, who was with his daughter, wife Julie Rose, and Manila Mayor Jose “Lito” Atienza.

Senator Edgardo Angara, Zambales Governor Vicente Magsaysay, and Leyte Governor Jericho Petilla also filed their COCs.

Monday’s early bird was Senator Joker Arroyo, who came alone.

Just before the Comelec receiving team went on a lunch break, Ilocos Sur Governor Luis “Chavit” Singson arrived with Batangas Governor Armando Sanchez and boxing champion Manny Pacquiao to file his Senate bid.

batangueno
02-12-2007, 00:05
Plataporma daw ni Goma is to get at least 1 gold sa Beijing Olympics. :ack:

binoy
02-12-2007, 00:09
Originally posted by batangueno
Plataporma daw ni Goma is to get at least 1 gold sa Beijing Olympics. :ack:

Gagastos sya ng >P100 million para dyan sa plataporma nya? Can someone check the BS meter :shocked: :rofl: :rofl:

charlie-xray
02-12-2007, 00:43
Diba nga nasipa yan sa shooting club ba nya yun or association for being ungentlemanly behaviour, naku pagka naupo yan baka mas lalo pa.

mistahglock17
02-12-2007, 00:45
just my personal comment/observation mga bro. :banana:

Tito Sotto - vice mayor sya that time nung ilabas nya sa presinto si Kempee de Leon dahil nahulihan ng baril. Kempee dropped his tito's name kaya hindi kinasuhan at pinakawalan na lang.

Bong Revilla - daming taga cavite umaangal sa kayabangan at papogi lang sa cavite.

Jinggoy Estrada - ang hari at may ari ng greenhills/san juan area. boy oh boy! parang sya lang ang tao kapag nasa area dun. we were in pizzahut one time then pumasok ang hari. grabe makatingin mga bodyguard at makaporma ang damuho. kala mo kung sino umasta.

Joey Marquez - ang popular na 'Milyong Peso' walis ni Tsong.

Aiko Melendez - sa kakahanap ng fafa, nakipag sapakan sa isang chicks sa Greenbelt. tapos sabi sya daw ang victim. hay naku po!

Dennis Roldan - the famous master-mind sa kidnapping. pero deny naman sya. hay naku, ang batas talaga natin. huli na nakakawala pa.

..kayo na bahala dumagdag baka sabihin nyo inubos ko na :wavey:

Valor1
02-12-2007, 01:23
alipustahin ang mga engot na artista!
kulayan ng bago ang mga hunyango!
iuwi ang mga Viva Hotbabes!
gawing hollywood compound ang Pinas! ubos ang TNT at wannabes!

arzon
02-12-2007, 02:41
Naman talaga... gasgas na linyang yan. :steamed: :50cal:

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/nation/view_article.php?article_id=49001

Pacquiao: ‘Fans mean well but town mates need me’

By Veronica Uy
INQUIRER.net
Last updated 03:55pm (Mla time) 02/12/2007

MANILA, Philippines -- Boxing champion Manny Pacquiao acknowledged the strong sentiment among his fans that he keep out of politics but said his plan to seek election is for his town mates in General Santos City who need his help.

“I am aware of the [fans’] sentiment expressed over the Internet. Maybe they should also go to General Santos City and see how much help the people there need,” Pacquiao said in Filipino.

The boxer accompanied Ilocos Sur Governor Luis “Chavit” Singson file his certificate of candidacy for senator at the Commission on Elections.

Singson said he personally prefers that Pacquiao concentrate on boxing than politics.

However, he said he would support whatever decision the Kamao ng Bayan (People's Fist) makes.

Pacquiao recently took his oath of office as a member of the Liberal Party faction led by Manila Mayor Lito Atienza.

blueeagle
02-12-2007, 03:19
the admin is trying to fill the senate with these less-than- admirable candidates so that if they win and maghasik ng lagim sa senado, the admin will be able to say na buwagin na ang senado dahil 'alang kwenta ito! brilliant!!! :laughabove: :laughabove:

mistahglock17
02-12-2007, 03:20
matutulad si PacMan kay Jawo :supergrin:

sayang si Jawo. idol ko pa naman. sinira ng anak pangalan nya.
tsk tsk tsk... iba talaga kapag nauupo sa gobyerno. kala nila sila na may ari ng Pilipinas:banana:

bagito
02-12-2007, 04:32
iuwi ang mga Viva Hotbabes!
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sama ako dyan :laughabove: :laughabove:

horge
02-12-2007, 05:42
Hi mistahglock! :)
Please check your PMbox.

toxic
02-12-2007, 11:57
kanya nga ba, ayaw ko ng bumoto..

Walther PPK
02-13-2007, 03:40
kanya nga ba, ayaw ko ng bumoto.

Same here. kakawalang gana na, kakawalang pag-asa.

mistahglock17
02-13-2007, 05:21
Originally posted by Walther PPK
Same here. kakawalang gana na, kakawalang pag-asa.

wooo! hold your horses gentlemen!
above are just the preview of nightmares we might have kapag pinayagan nating makaupo mga engot na artistang yan.

kapag di tayo bumoto... parang pinamigay na natin boto natin dahil i guarantee you 100% na mag-a-appear pangalan nyo sa voters list ng mga bomoto kahit di kayo bomoto :animlol:

all i can say is, REVIEW natin accomplishment ng mga artistang naging politiko then from there you/we can decide if we still need this kind of circus in our goverment.

not sure how many are you are in active/retired service but look at the academy (PMA), young and aspiring officers are still hoping that someday, magkaroon ng pagbabago.

...just keep on sharing your observations and ideas. :banana:

bertud ng putik
02-13-2007, 06:17
sangkatutak na pera nanaman ang babaha ngayong eleksyon! yung salitang vote wisely, laos na yan! pare-parehas silang lahat mga TRAPO, talon dito, talon doon sa kabilang partido! cguro panahon na para tayo'y matuto! WAG NA TAYONG BUMOTO! :animlol: :animlol: :animlol: :banana: :banana: :banana:

charlie-xray
02-13-2007, 07:29
Tama si mistah, bumoto pa rin tayo pero sana nga iboto natin yung karapat-dapat. Medyo sang-ayon pa ako sa Artista na nag-pulitiko kasi minsan gumaganda ang takbo at may nagagawang matino.

Pero ang mas takot ay dun sa pulitikong nag-iinarte lang sa Senado or Congresso, andyan sina Miriam na pang "maalala mo kaya".

Sana matuto na ang Pilipino.........sana magising na si Juan na ang boto ay hindi worth 500pesos lamang or isang salop na bigas at ilang sardinas.

At saka sana ito ang maging mga batayan natin pag tayo's bumoto:

1. PLATAPORMA
2. PRINSIPYO
3. TRACK RECORD

AT HUWAG TAYONG PASISILAW SA ARTISTANG DALA NILA SA PANGANGAMPANYA, maliban na lang sa Viva Hotbabes, EB Babes, Sexbomb at Baywalk Bodies hehehe sila na lang iboootooo natin.

Kaiser Soze
02-13-2007, 11:24
It's Manny Pacquiao VS Darlene Custudio for Gen San Rep...hay.

Si Manny boxing idol, but no real experience.

Si Darlene, although medyo cute, wala ding contribution sa Congress. Nakisali lang kela Escudero, galing mag speech (magaling ang speech writer eh :thumbsup: ) pero sa interpolation at questions, parang wala ding alam.

Choose the lesser evil na lang.

Hay.

mistahglock17
02-13-2007, 16:45
Originally posted by Kaiser Soze
It's Manny Pacquiao VS Darlene Custudio for Gen San Rep...hay.
Choose the lesser evil na lang.
nice one KS ! :laughabove: :animlol:

choi_tan2000
02-13-2007, 19:38
i agree with mistah

boto arin tayo ...

but i think thats not enough....

i we can do something on our little way of educating more pinoys. kahit sa mga nkakahalubilo lang ntn at nkakausap diba. i think there's still a hope. we just have to do something.

wag tayo magmukmuk at di nalng kumibo.. its not the fight on polititians its our fight too..

sabi nga nung isa ntn brod dito sa BOG's the only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good man to do nothing.. tama ba hehe

spread the words but.. iwas sa trouble ha .. just share our ideas about this polititians and hope that more people will vote wisely...

benjie abalos..

hehehe jok lang

choi ito hehehe

MRV_G17
02-14-2007, 05:10
Originally posted by choi_tan2000
spread the words but.. iwas sa trouble ha .. just share our ideas about this polititians and hope that more people will vote wisely
OK yan! dapat ganyan nga gawin natin.

eto contribution ko. dito natin malalaman why our politicians invest millions in politics than spending their millions that would create jobs for millions of jobs less filipinos.

Why do they all want to be senator?
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/storypage.aspx?StoryID=66471

By PATRICIA ESTEVES
The Philippine Star

For a job that pays only P35,000 a month, you need about P150 million, by conservative estimates, to campaign for a Senate seat.

Yet celebrities as well as neophyte and seasoned politicians alike are battling for the 12 Senate seats up for grabs in May.

A senator’s monthly take — the Senate president’s P5,000 more than his colleagues’ — doesn’t cover allowances, travel expenses, salaries for staff, purchase of supplies and other maintenance and operating expenses (MOOE).

For 2006, the Senate received P1.336 billion from the 2005 reenacted budget. A total of P526 million has been allocated for the MOOEs of each senator.

At least P54 million of the total went to traveling expenses, P15.236 million to communication expenses, P600,000 to repairs and maintenance, P27.780 million to transportation and delivery expenses, P123.229 million to rent of satellite offices, P18.564 million to utility expenses, P18.564 million to training and scholarship expenses, P14 million to confidential and intelligence and extraordinary and miscellaneous expenses.

A Commission on Audit (COA) report in 2005 put at close to P300 million the total expenses incurred by senators. The expenses were for local and foreign travels, salaries and benefits, rentals, professional and consultancy fees, among others.

A committee chairman is also entitled to a separate salary and the committee he chairs has its own budget.

Senate Minority Leader Aquilino Pimentel Jr. estimates that a Senate committee chairman gets P100,000 in extra allowance.

Based on the 2005 reenacted budget, the congressional commission on agricultural modernization received P21.149 million; the committee on labor and employment, P23.179 million; committee on E- commerce, P1 million; committee on ecological solid waste management, P4.250; joint oversight committee on the Clean Air Act, P4.250 million.

Each senator also gets P200 million in priority development assistance fund or simply, "pork barrel."

Rich man’s game

For re-electionist senator Vicente "Tito" Sotto III and first time politician Sonia Malasarte Roco, running for the Senate is still a rich man’s game.

Sotto and Roco pegged the cost of campaign at P150 million.

Sotto said political ads don’t come cheap and could cost around P60 million. A 30-second commercial, for instance, costs about P1.5 million to 2.5 million.

"At least you need about P100 million. The maximum allowed by COMELEC (Commission on Elections) is P3 per voter. For me, I think I’ll spend about P100 million," Sotto told The STAR.

Campaign funds usually go to media advertisements, research consultancy, public relations, surveys, political rallies including entertainment, transportation, and campaign materials.

Sotto said he decided to run because he wanted to update the laws that he helped craft: the creation of Philippine Drug Enforcement Agency and the Dangerous Drugs Act of 1992.

"It needs updating, it’s been five years since it was passed and I think it needs updating. I feel that I have some unfinished business," Sotto said of his anti-drug measure.

He added he also wants to initiate the creation of more women and child crisis centers in the country. A few years back, Sotto set up a pilot woman and child crisis center in Cebu.

" We saw that it was successful, the crime rate committed against children and women has gone done. With that we can craft a law that will institutionalize women and crisis center all over the country," Sotto said.

Mrs. Roco, widow of former senator Raul Roco, on the other hand, said she doesn’t have P150 million to shell out for the elections and she’ll make do with whatever she has.

She said there were many good candidates but they couldn’t get into the game because they lacked the resources.

"It is still pera (money) politics. The bottomline is, who’s got the money to pay," Roco said.

"The deterrent is not lack of qualification but lack of money. There are good leaders who want to run but they can’t afford," she said.

"Why would the elections cost so much when it is a simple process. You give the people the list of candidates and their qualifications and you let the people choose." Service in mind

For Pimentel, it’s not power and wealth but "vast opportunities for nationwide services" that drive one to aspire for a Senate seat. He said this is the reason why even some billionaires want to run for the Senate.

"A senator has to consider not only the parochial concerns of his region but the welfare of the entire nation. The challenges are limitless," Pimentel said.

"A senator is responding to national issues," he added, "unlike a congressman whose concerns are more or less focused on his/her congressional district."

He said free access to communications is one of the favorite perks enjoyed by senators.

"You have access to free communications like postal service etc… and then you can also have a bigger staff than what is made available to a congressman," Pimentel said.

He also cited the senators’ work-related travel privileges. "We have travel perks. Senators need to meet their constituency requirements all over the land and attend international meetings. I always go to IPU (International Parliamentary Union) meetings with my staff. We spend for the allocation of travel," Pimentel said.

He said pork barrel allocations help the senators fund their various projects, although the release of the funds depends on executive approval.

"We have a CDF (countrywide development fund) only in theory because the release of our CDF is still subject to the whims and caprices of the executive," he said.

"The money is with the executive department, which is quite often selectively releasing the CDF and so it is not fair to make a blanket assertion that we receive this amount of CDF," he said.

The monetary perks go with other privileges like immunity from arrest, while Congress is in session, for crimes punishable with imprisonment of less than six years. It’s a privilege enshrined in the Constitution.

"A long-tradition of law-making body that is practiced all over the world, (is) immunity from arrest. But the immunity applies only to a certain degree of offenses, to shield the lawmaker from harassment by political opponents," Pimentel said.

nrmcolt
02-14-2007, 10:22
Lapit na eleksyon, kaya kuha na ko BODYguard.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v623/nrmcolt/Bodyguard.jpg
Ready to fight yan!Note: da pinger on da trigger!:alex:
:supergrin:


:beer:

choi_tan2000
02-14-2007, 20:24
mrv_g17

nic input sir..

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cznayr
02-14-2007, 21:01
Have you heard about the Ang Kapatiran Party ni Nandy Pacheco, they have four candidates.. Guess what's their platform..

choi_tan2000
02-14-2007, 21:08
yes sir i heard it and i am sad to hear

kasi they are anti gun groups.............



hehehe

mistahglock17
02-14-2007, 23:49
P150 million, by conservative estimates

teka! teka! teka laaaang!!!

invest ka ng P150M (50-50 chance of winning). assuming you won, how would you get the ROI (return of investment) ???

investment = 150M
duration of tenure = ok lets say 5yrs sila mauupo so thats 60months?

150M/60mos = 2.5M per month ang dapat kikitain to break-even.

pano kikita ng 2.5M per month ang isang senador para mabawi (break-even man lang) investment??

tama ba?? pakikwenta lang mga brod. mahina ako sa MAT eh. gred-por lang kasi :animlol: :rofl: :rofl:

choi_tan2000
02-14-2007, 23:57
mistah

i think mrv_g17 datas are those documented.. hehehe

ung un documented marami din.. kasi me mga lobbyist sa congress or senate example me mga bill's na me relation sa negosyo.

ex. tele communication.. (for a senator to pass or endorse a bill-malamamng me comisyon un diba) sample lang un sir ha hehehe

marami pang iba. petrolium, vehicles, minning, marami pang iba.. kaya dun maloaki kick back nila i think......

di naman kasi sila basta magsponsor ng bill kung di sila magkakamerun diba?? or madumi lang isip ko hehe..

but if we look on their investment ????? they need to regain it diba..

cznayr
02-15-2007, 00:33
I'll do the math

CDf allocation per year is 200 Million. Multiply it by six years they are in office. That is 1.2 Billion. Take 20% of it. That would be 240Million in kickbacks on their pork barrel alone.

Another source of income is the intelligence fund. This doesn't get audited. My brother in law who's from COA said a congressman has 100,000 pesos per month. They just sign a certificate that says these funds have been expended. Magkano pa kaya sa Senators.

Who knows what other avenues they use to recoup their funds? If your project is in the jurisdiction of the senator, kahit hinde sourced from their pork barrel ang funding.. kailangan may say din siya, katulad dun sa project that i've been engaged before (an airport development project financed by JBIC) .. gusto nung Senator may siya sa contractor, consultant etc...

wingz
02-15-2007, 00:40
Originally posted by cznayr
Have you heard about the Ang Kapatiran Party ni Nandy Pacheco, they have four candidates.. Guess what's their platform..

Nakuuuupo! Ayan na naman si Nandy "G.U.N.D.I." Pacheco: - Gunowner detraction initiator. :steamed: :steamed: :steamed:

mistahglock17
02-15-2007, 00:59
Originally posted by cznayr
I'll do the math

CDf allocation per year is 200 Million. Multiply it by six years they are in office. That is 1.2 Billion. Take 20% of it. That would be 240Million in kickbacks on their pork barrel alone.

Another source of income is the intelligence fund. This doesn't get audited. My brother in law who's from COA said a congressman has 100,000 pesos per month. They just sign a certificate that says these funds have been expended. Magkano pa kaya sa Senators.

Who knows what other avenues they use to recoup their funds? If your project is in the jurisdiction of the senator, kahit hinde sourced from their pork barrel ang funding.. kailangan may say din siya, katulad dun sa project that i've been engaged before (an airport development project financed by JBIC) .. gusto nung Senator may siya sa contractor, consultant etc...
very well said bro:thumbsup:

Originally posted by choi_tan2000
ex. tele communication.. (for a senator to pass or endorse a bill-malamamng me comisyon un diba) sample lang un sir ha hehehe
700M txt msges/day ang ipinapadala sa pinas pala. baket hindi maibagsak ang presyo ng txt? think about it mga bro... sa mga high volume you buy, the more discount you get. And the less valume you buy, the less discount you get:laughabove:

tama ba ako ako talagang engot lang ako sa MAT :animlol:

choi_tan2000
02-15-2007, 02:48
mistah / cznayr

tama kau sir.. laki nga ng kita .. why bother to spend 150million for the campaign eh 90 of that came from supporters kuno diba? bka nga kumikita pa eh... diba...

lets just vote dun sa me delikadesa nlng kahit konti... kung merun pa..

nakalimutan pala ntn kung may impeachment may kumukita rin pala. hehehe

MRV_G17
02-16-2007, 05:02
Originally posted by choi_tan2000
mistah / cznayr

tama kau sir.. laki nga ng kita .. why bother to spend 150million for the campaign eh 90 of that came from supporters kuno diba? bka nga kumikita pa eh... diba...
im sure merong susuporta sa mga tra-po (traditional politicians) na businessmen/companies lalo na yung nakinabang na at gustong makinabang.

ang tanong eh...
- saan kukuha ng 150M itong mga aspiring na artista - except the rich ones ex: Sotto and Revillas.
- ano kaya maitutulong nila kay Juan dela Cruz na hindi nagawa ng ibang politiko na mas familiary sa batas at syempre dahil sa graduate sila na Law.

im just wondering :shocked:

MRV_G17
02-17-2007, 20:38
i wonder why our Govt failed to help those poor victims of the pre-need education plan? really feel sorry for them kasi pinaghirapan nila yung perang ibinigay nila sa CAP tapos di man lang bigyan pansin ng mga mambabatas natin ng gumawa ng batas (para protektahan si juan dela cruz or para protektahan sarili nilang interest na kumita?).

sa pinas kasi normal ng prinopertahan ng ilang politikos yung interest ng pagkakaperahan kesa sa mamamayan.

Victims of failed pre-need plans form party-list group
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/nation/view_article.php?article_id=50047

antediluvianist
02-17-2007, 22:00
From now on, all candidates must be virgins, and then must be sterilized if they win. Why? That the ABSOLUTELY ONLY WAY to stop these goddam dynasties in politics. They are absolutely ridiculous.

It gets even more ridiculous when it's dynasty na, mga bobong artista pa (like the Revillas).

Kiddo
02-18-2007, 04:20
BOGs, please continue VOTING~!

Like what others have said, if you don't vote, then corrupt politicos will use your vote! At least when you yourself vote, you are the one making the choice and not them!

charlie-xray
02-18-2007, 04:40
It's sad to see all these Trapos still active and looks sincere during the campaign period. Hindi nakakapag-taka bakit halos 80% ng pilipino gusto ng mag-migrate sa ibang bansa at suko na sa kabulukan ng systema ng pinas.

Kailan kaya darating yung araw na ang pagsisilbihan nila eh ang mamayan at hindi ang mayayaman. At darating pa kaya, kami na lang na biktima ng LINTEK NA CAP na yan, wala pa rin kaming justice up to now.

mistahglock17
02-19-2007, 01:31
Originally posted by charlie-xray
Kailan kaya darating yung araw na ang pagsisilbihan nila eh ang mamayan at hindi ang mayayaman. At darating pa kaya, kami na lang na biktima ng LINTEK NA CAP na yan, wala pa rin kaming justice up to now.
my sympathy Sir. di kasi alam ng mga damuhong pulitiko na gusto din natin bigyan magandang education mga anak natin.

"Ang kabataan ang pag-asa ng Bayan" - pano magiging pag-asa ng bayan mga kabataan natin kung di makakatapos ng pag-aaral dahil hindi maibalik ng CARP ang pera ng mga magulang?

of course, education is always FREE at PMA academy.:wavey:

charlie-xray
02-19-2007, 04:28
Oo nga eh, and come to think of it naging mabuting magulang ako kasi wala pa kaming anak 3 yrs ng bayad yung CAP ko, kaya ngayon isang fully paid 5 years at isang 3yrs paid, pero wala na lahat.

Migrate sana kaso parang hindi pa rin ako SUKO sa pinas eh! wala pa ring kasing SARAP ang sariling bansa natin kahit na puro BULOK ang nasa itaas. Kaya sabi ko sa sarili ko, ma-attain ko lang ang financial stability, mapag-tapos ko mga anak ko AYOS na siguro ako nun, tapos pagka retired na eh dapat palagi lang may pera pambili ng ammo at pamalit ng parts pagka masira ang boomer ko.

Simple LIFE.

Originally posted by mistahglock17
my sympathy Sir. di kasi alam ng mga damuhong pulitiko na gusto din natin bigyan magandang education mga anak natin.

"Ang kabataan ang pag-asa ng Bayan" - pano magiging pag-asa ng bayan mga kabataan natin kung di makakatapos ng pag-aaral dahil hindi maibalik ng CARP ang pera ng mga magulang?

of course, education is always FREE at PMA academy.:wavey:

mistahglock17
02-19-2007, 17:01
Originally posted by charlie-xray
Migrate sana kaso parang hindi pa rin ako SUKO sa pinas eh! wala pa ring kasing SARAP ang sariling bansa natin kahit na puro BULOK ang nasa itaas. Kaya sabi ko sa sarili ko, ma-attain ko lang ang financial stability, mapag-tapos ko mga anak ko AYOS na siguro ako nun, tapos pagka retired na eh dapat palagi lang may pera pambili ng ammo at pamalit ng parts pagka masira ang boomer ko.

Simple LIFE.
pre, IMHO, migrating to other country wont do good. other pinoy has sold their all their properties then after some years and endedup spending their hard earned money to buy back properties para makabalik sa pinas.

sabi nga ni Gary V. "BABALIK AT BABALIK KA RIN" :supergrin:

with regards to CAP, who knows... baka sakyan ng ibang politiko yang issue na yan para iboto sila :)

Goodluck bro. pero kapag artista naupo, ala na. baka sabihin pa sa yo na pag-artistahin na lang natin mga anak natin at wag ng mag aral kung walang pang bayad sa tuition fees :animlol: :animlol:

MRV_G17
02-20-2007, 05:53
Originally posted by mistahglock17
pero kapag artista naupo, ala na. baka sabihin pa sa yo na pag-artistahin na lang natin mga anak natin at wag ng mag aral kung walang pang bayad sa tuition fees :animlol: :animlol:
:laughabove: kapag naging artista pwede sundan tapak ni Goma :laughabove:

Richard Gomez named adviser of House committee on drugs
http://showbizandstyle.inquirer.net/breakingnews/breakingnews/view_article.php?article_id=50621

MRV_G17
02-22-2007, 04:28
Originally posted by cznayr
I'll do the math

CDf allocation per year is 200 Million. Multiply it by six years they are in office. That is 1.2 Billion. Take 20% of it. That would be 240Million in kickbacks on their pork barrel alone.

Another source of income is the intelligence fund. This doesn't get audited. My brother in law who's from COA said a congressman has 100,000 pesos per month. They just sign a certificate that says these funds have been expended. Magkano pa kaya sa Senators.

Who knows what other avenues they use to recoup their funds? If your project is in the jurisdiction of the senator, kahit hinde sourced from their pork barrel ang funding.. kailangan may say din siya, katulad dun sa project that i've been engaged before (an airport development project financed by JBIC) .. gusto nung Senator may siya sa contractor, consultant etc...
sapul na sapul mo cznayr. eto at umamin na, na meron nga 'kita' kapag naging senador:banana:
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/storypage.aspx?StoryId=67727
No less than President Arroyo admitted Thursday that lobbyists for major pharmaceutical firms tried to influence her to block proposed legislation revising patent laws that would allow the importation of cheaper medicine in the country.

Mrs. Arroyo told reporters during a roundtable discussion in Malacañang that several lobbyists tried to set up private meetings with her during her trip to Davos, Switzerland last month. She said she turned down the requests since she had already made up her mind to support the bills.

The President's admission came two days after lobby groups tried to block the passage of House Bill 6035 or the Cheaper Medicine Bill during a special session of Congress.

Senate President Manuel Villar admitted that powerful lobby groups, including foreign organizations, sometimes influence lawmakers to support or block pending bills.

"There are Americans. They like to threaten you and because of Filipinos' colonial mentality, many lawmakers are threatened," he told DZMM.

He said the Senate has already banned lobbyists during hearings, especially during budget deliberations.

"There is a need to pass a law against [lobbying in Congress]. Actually, I tried to draft a bill about that but it's too hard to differentiate which acts of lobby groups should be declared illegal," Villar said, noting that some lawmakers are openly bribed by lobby groups.

Last Tuesday lobbyists of the Pharmaceutical and Healthcare Association of the Philippines slipped a note to Makati Rep. Teodoro Locsin, asking the congressman to question the quorum during the plenary session on the Cheaper Medicine Bill at the House of Representatives.

The note, which was written in a one-fourth piece of paper said: "We desperately need someone to question the quorum now. Can you do it? Please confirm with Leo Wassmer." The note also had a cellular phone number written below the paper.

Wassmer was later identified as PHAP executive vice-president and chief executive officer.

The infuriated Locsin showed the letter to other congressmen before they proceeded to the gallery to confront the lobbyists, who they later asked to leave the gallery.

Iloilo Rep. Rolex Suplico identified the lobbyists as lawyer Marilyn Matamis Ocampo, corporate legal counsel of GlaxoSmithKline, and lawyer Faustina Carmen Bautista, legal affairs manager of Pfizer.

He said he is studying filing criminal charges against the two for disrupting legislative proceedings

Pfizer Philippines, meanwhile, denied reports that the company was trying to block the passage of HB 6035.

In a statement, the company said it had only one representative present in the gallery during the special session on the Cheaper Medicine Bill.

"As a leading pharmaceutical company, providing access to innovative medicines to thousands of patients in the Philippines, Pfizer believes it has a responsibility to participate actively in critical deliberations pertaining to healthcare. Any suggestion that the company acted in an untoward manner is simply untrue and contrary to Pfizer values," the company said in a statement.

It added: "Pfizer strongly believes that IP protection is a critical driver for the production of innovative medicines and ultimately the provision of better healthcare for all."

blueeagle
02-24-2007, 18:02
this will result in a tsunami of counterfeit drugs. the most logical way to bring down the price of meds is to encourage and nurture our pharmaceutical industry. the reason why we lag behind our asian neighbors is that we have been too used to importing what we need.:sad:

antediluvianist
02-24-2007, 23:28
"Our" pharmaceutical companies make enormous profits already - look at the list of Philippines' top 1000 corporations and top 1000 taxpayers.

I'm in the healthcare business and boy! don't waste any pity on our pharmaceutical companies.

We are a small country and we do not have the necessary economies of scale for the modern hi-tech antibiotics and chemo etc. drugs. You know how many patients can afford one of the best anti-breast-cancer drugs on the market? 66 per year in the whole of the Philippines, all of them A or A+ economic-level women. Hundreds need it, only 66 can afford it.

In India it sells for 20% the price, and NO, it's NOT fake - they have the economies of scale and a government that is not in the pocket of the international drug companies and the few rich locals who own pharmas/are partners of international drug companies.

Sure, there are fakes all over the world, especially in Africa, but there are also GENUINE LOCALLY_PRODUCED INEXPENSIVE DRUGS, and you just need to go to India and buy the known good brands ("Ranbaxy" etc.) to verify this.

navychief
02-25-2007, 01:26
There's nothing we can do about our politics...nasa culture na natin yan... and this started way back sa panahon ng Kastila. Actually, most countries na under ng Spanish rule, madumi ang politics nila. Even if we don't vote for the dirty politicians, they can still buy votes to win. Sa atin nga lang mas nakakahiya dahil walang alam sa paninilbihan sa bayan ang karamihan sa mga pulitiko. It's "me first" before the Filipino people attitude. It's sad to admit but dyan ko kinahihiya ang karamihan ng mga politicians natin.

MRV_G17
02-25-2007, 02:06
Originally posted by antediluvianist
"Our" pharmaceutical companies make enormous profits already - look at the list of Philippines' top 1000 corporations and top 1000 taxpayers.

I'm in the healthcare business and boy! don't waste any pity on our pharmaceutical companies.

We are a small country and we do not have the necessary economies of scale for the modern hi-tech antibiotics and chemo etc. drugs. You know how many patients can afford one of the best anti-breast-cancer drugs on the market? 66 per year in the whole of the Philippines, all of them A or A+ economic-level women. Hundreds need it, only 66 can afford it.

In India it sells for 20% the price, and NO, it's NOT fake - they have the economies of scale and a government that is not in the pocket of the international drug companies and the few rich locals who own pharmas/are partners of international drug companies.

Sure, there are fakes all over the world, especially in Africa, but there are also GENUINE LOCALLY_PRODUCED INEXPENSIVE DRUGS, and you just need to go to India and buy the known good brands ("Ranbaxy" etc.) to verify this.

I agree with you bro 1001%

Filipinos should now know na dahil sa ilang mga pulitikong ungas ang nakikinabang sa tuwing magtataas ng presyo mga drug companys. wala tayong batas na nagre-regular sa mga drug companies kaya they do jackup their prices... at their own will.

with this new BILL, im sure marami dyan ang gagawa ng paraan para masabing maraming fake ng gamot. yeah right, those are really fake lalo na kung isasabotage nila just to prove to public na totoo nga.

pero kung merong lumabas na fake drug... dapat firing squad yung encharge sa pagche-check ng mga pumapasok na gamot sa Pinas.:rofl:

hhmmm... I would suggest na gawin na lang nating moving COF yung encharge na mag-aaprove ng mga fake na gamot (((i hear some BOGs saying YES!!!!))) :animlol: :animlol: