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charlie-xray
02-26-2007, 08:36
Anybody here have any G17/G23 Horror Stories?

MR_BIG
02-27-2007, 00:04
naku...hindi lang sa g17/23 pati sa 35 ...tsk tsk

Valor1
02-27-2007, 01:35
Di ba meron kang Glocks? Naku, pag nakinig at nagbasa ka pa ng mga horror stories baka mawalan ka pa ng gana sa Glock mo. Hindi mo na yan ma-eenjoy. Itatago mo na lang yan. Tapos ibebenta mo na lang yan. sayang.

usually, ang mga may glock , bibili ng extra barrel made by barsto, kkm, etc. ginagawa yan para magpaputok ng lead bullets.

kung di ka naman makabili ng extra barrel, palagi mo na lang linisin ang barrel after 100-200 rounds para sigurado. that is if gagamit ka ng reloads.

pwede ring puro full metal jacket ang gamitin mo, magastos nga lang.

kung magda-dryfire ka, gumamit ka ng snap caps para sigurado din. whether it is recommended or not na wag gumamit ng snap caps during dryfiring, bumili ka na rin para sigurado. mura lang naman ang mga iyan.

o ayan, magpaputok ka na at mag-enjoy sa glock. kalimutan na yang mga horror stories. kung gusto mo ng horror, manood ka sa darating na eleksyon at talagang may kasama pang dismaya yan

charlie-xray
02-27-2007, 01:56
Thanks Valor1, you have a point hahaha natakot ako roon ah! Sa Mayo talaga ang box-office niyan.

Salamat.

saki1611
02-27-2007, 02:45
any pistols have record of breakage, occurred to over normal usage. most pistols are designed for sidearm or secondary weapon, and designed to a particular load for it to last. it'll serve its purpose depending on how you'll use it. anything that is used beyond its normal requirements are subject to fail, as well as firearms.

tagaykoyan
02-27-2007, 05:30
right before the gunban my friend and i went to armscor marikina for some plinking fun. my friend's brod tagged along, bringing with him his G17. we were firing away reloads (i was using my RIA 1911) when he noticed that one bullet didn't come out of the barrel. it was stuck inside the barrel, and they had to force it out using a screwdriver. sabi ng range officer baka kulang yung pulbura nung reloaded bullet.

anyway, after a few rounds, same thing happened again. they had to extract it out (again) using the trusty screwdriver (again). buti na lang napapansin agad, otherwise pag naiputok yung kasunod na bala lagot ang barrel nya :sad:

glocks are reliable weapons no doubt. but dito sa pinas, sa mahal ng factory ammo, you have to resort to reloads kung gusto mo makarami ng putok. thanks to my trusty Rock .45 i haven't encountered similar problems... actually i haven't experienced any problem at all:thumbsup:

atmarcella
02-27-2007, 08:28
sir,
problema na cguro ng bala yung nangyari sa inyo...hindi baril.

vega
02-27-2007, 08:56
Originally posted by tagaykoyan
(again) using the trusty screwdriver (again).
I hope he didn't scratch the bore.

tagaykoyan
02-27-2007, 19:22
Originally posted by atmarcella
sir,
problema na cguro ng bala yung nangyari sa inyo...hindi baril.

di sakin nagyari yun chief, sa isang kasama namin. definitely its a bullet problem, pero dito nga sa pinas kelangan malalim bulsa mo para makapag-practice ka using factory ammo. and you have to familiarize yourself with your weapon di ba, so thousands of rounds are required.

boni
02-28-2007, 07:44
Originally posted by tagaykoyan
pero dito nga sa pinas kelangan malalim bulsa mo para makapag-practice ka using factory ammo. and you have to familiarize yourself with your weapon di ba, so thousands of rounds are required.
Sir, d ba dito sa pinas medyo dapat may kalaliman din bulsa mo para maka afford ka magkaroon ng baril? hehehe :supergrin: at PTC for that matter. :) and i think dapat to be glock owner prepared ka na rin na hindi pwede mag paputok ng lead sa glock. and hindi naman siguro kailangan na thousands na bala magagamit para lang ma familiarize ka sa baril mo. siguro para manalo ka competition hundreds na bala nagagamit mo sa each course. :)

jimbullet
02-28-2007, 07:47
Anyone selling their glocks due to horror stories can sell them here on this forum at a real discount.....:laughabove:

vega
02-28-2007, 09:10
Originally posted by boni
Sir, d ba dito sa pinas medyo dapat may kalaliman din bulsa mo para maka afford ka magkaroon ng baril? hehehe :supergrin: at PTC for that matter. :) and i think dapat to be glock owner prepared ka na rin na hindi pwede mag paputok ng lead sa glock. and hindi naman siguro kailangan na thousands na bala magagamit para lang ma familiarize ka sa baril mo. siguro para manalo ka competition hundreds na bala nagagamit mo sa each course. :)
Ang mind set sa competiton is to beat your own time and not to beat everyone para manalo. You are just competing with yourself and having fun.

st. matthew
02-28-2007, 17:17
Originally posted by jimbullet
Anyone selling their glocks due to horror stories can sell them here on this forum at a real discount.....:laughabove:

+1

g35 hanap ko
;)

jasonub
02-28-2007, 18:06
i shot about 38000 rounds on my svi for 2 years. on a single pistol. maybe i shot around 100-200000 rounds using different guns for the past 5 yrs or so

tagaykoyan
02-28-2007, 19:49
Originally posted by boni
Sir, d ba dito sa pinas medyo dapat may kalaliman din bulsa mo para maka afford ka magkaroon ng baril? hehehe :supergrin: at PTC for that matter. :) and i think dapat to be glock owner prepared ka na rin na hindi pwede mag paputok ng lead sa glock. and hindi naman siguro kailangan na thousands na bala magagamit para lang ma familiarize ka sa baril mo. siguro para manalo ka competition hundreds na bala nagagamit mo sa each course. :)

lalim ng bulsa is subjective, and PTT lang (500 for 3 months) pwede na.

thats exactly my point, to avoid any horror story don't mix glocks with reloads.

atmarcella
03-01-2007, 05:24
nung stock barrel ko di naman factory load lahat gamit ko, teflon heads lang ok na, di naman grabe lead build up, nagpalit ako ng barsto para maka gamit ng lead at maka mura, i regretted the day i sold my stock barrel, feeling ko mas superior pa stock kesa barsto, yung stock ko hindi namimili ng bala, ang barsto ang sikip ng chamber namimili ng bala.

and regarding round count, there's this guy named chuck taylor who has fired 500k round thru his glock and it still keeps on ticking.

personally the only thing i dislike about glocks is the lanyard compartment, it destroys the grip.

navychief
03-03-2007, 12:00
it's like buying a cadillac tapos leaded fuel ang gamit instead na recommended fuel (unleaded)...di tatagal kakatok ang engine. majority ng LEO sa states glock ang duty side arm nila (some choose the glock for off duty as well) from 9mm to 45 acp. that goes the same sa mga feds dahil glock is a great ccw weapon. i've owned my G23 for 6 months, fired over 1K rounds using winchester factory ammo...not a single misfire. the only time i had a problem was when i bought cheap Wolf rounds (russian made) from a gun show in nevada, 3 out of the 200 i fired were duds. so it's not the glock...it's the ammo. besides, why would you use reloads (or inferior rounds) on your best gun (HD or CC)?

tagaykoyan
03-03-2007, 17:44
Originally posted by navychief
it's like buying a cadillac tapos leaded fuel ang gamit instead na recommended fuel (unleaded)...di tatagal kakatok ang engine. majority ng LEO sa states glock ang duty side arm nila (some choose the glock for off duty as well) from 9mm to 45 acp. that goes the same sa mga feds dahil glock is a great ccw weapon. i've owned my G23 for 6 months, fired over 1K rounds using winchester factory ammo...not a single misfire. the only time i had a problem was when i bought cheap Wolf rounds (russian made) from a gun show in nevada, 3 out of the 200 i fired were duds. so it's not the glock...it's the ammo. besides, why would you use reloads (or inferior rounds) on your best gun (HD or CC)?

yes, i totally agree with the ammo issue. and i agree that glock is a great weapon, totally reliable with the right ammo.
its just that my 1911 gives me the option of using both factory loads and reloads effectively during range sessions.

different strokes for different folks;)

navychief
03-03-2007, 20:17
no doubt the 1911 is a great firearm otherwise, it won't get this far (almost a century na). but to go back to the real issue on this thread, we are taking risks when using reloads from unknown source. i've used factory reloads on my taurus 38 spl (for the reason of saving money...$17 per 100 for reloads against $22 on all new ammo and you won't notice the difference from the factory ammo. i've read on GT that after the 3rd reload, one must not reuse the casing any longer for the tensile strength has diminished. cguro, those that have experienced the horror on their Glock were using over recycled casing coupled with improper powder load....just my 2 cents. by the way, my next gun will be a 1911 45acp to accompany my G23 and Taurus 85 series. no sense going for a 9mm when my 40 has 13+1 :)

Rebel_James
03-03-2007, 20:26
Originally posted by vega
I hope he didn't scratch the bore.

10-4 on that! A wooden dowel rod does the trick every time!

zorkd
03-04-2007, 03:11
so in your opinion, which shop gives the best 9mm fmj reloads for use in glocks? true weight? strong hand? or sa armscor na mismo?

isa lang 9mm ko eh, napapaisip tuloy akong bumili nang cz75 para lahat nang reloads doon, yung mga factory rounds sa glock pero parang di naman necessary, mukhang matibay naman itong glock.

did they ever do the bullet lodged in the chamber then fire another round test on glocks like they did on HK USP in oberndorf germany? tingin ko kakayanin din nang glock barrel yun eh. sa HK testing, the barrel had a noticeable bulge pero accuracy was barely affected daw.

zorkd
03-04-2007, 03:17
siguro ang meron pang horror story ay yung mga bugoy na sumubok gumawa nang kasamaan sa isang taong may kargang glock, natutukan man o natinggaan, sugatan man or dedbol, yung mga yun sigurado may horror story about glocks.

tagaykoyan
03-04-2007, 06:29
Originally posted by navychief
no doubt the 1911 is a great firearm otherwise, it won't get this far (almost a century na). but to go back to the real issue on this thread, we are taking risks when using reloads from unknown source. i've used factory reloads on my taurus 38 spl (for the reason of saving money...$17 per 100 for reloads against $22 on all new ammo and you won't notice the difference from the factory ammo. i've read on GT that after the 3rd reload, one must not reuse the casing any longer for the tensile strength has diminished. cguro, those that have experienced the horror on their Glock were using over recycled casing coupled with improper powder load....just my 2 cents. by the way, my next gun will be a 1911 45acp to accompany my G23 and Taurus 85 series. no sense going for a 9mm when my 40 has 13+1 :)

nice firearm choices chief:thumbsup:. i already have a 1911 and a taurus (the .357 tracker model). glock na lang kulang. next 13th month pay pwede na.

isuzu
03-04-2007, 12:03
My Taurus PT-92 digested both FMJ and reloads (both good reloads and crappy ones), and was more reliable with reloads than my former Glock pistols. That's why it's with my wife now.:)

revo
03-04-2007, 15:17
Originally posted by navychief
i've owned my G23 for 6 months, fired over 1K rounds using winchester factory ammo...not a single misfire. the only time i had a problem was when i bought cheap Wolf rounds (russian made) from a gun show in nevada, 3 out of the 200 i fired were duds. so it's not the glock...it's the ammo. besides, why would you use reloads (or inferior rounds) on your best gun (HD or CC)? based oi

navychief, are you based in San Diego ?

navychief
03-04-2007, 17:18
Originally posted by revo
based oi

navychief, are you based in San Diego ?

Revo,

I lived and was based for a long period in San Diego but my last tour was Fallon, Nevada (where I scattered kilos and kilos of brass...:supergrin:). Now I'm happily retired, soon to settle sa Pinas.

navychief
03-04-2007, 17:20
Originally posted by isuzu
My Taurus PT-92 digested both FMJ and reloads (both good reloads and crappy ones), and was more reliable with reloads than my former Glock pistols. That's why it's with my wife now.:)

I guess glocks are not good on reloads...maybe just PI reloads:supergrin:

batangueno
03-04-2007, 20:27
Originally posted by zorkd
so in your opinion, which shop gives the best 9mm fmj reloads for use in glocks? true weight? strong hand? or sa armscor na mismo?

For me stronghand, they seem to have good quality control. Binabalik nila yung cracked shells, that means they check every case before reloading. Although Taurus, who always competes with his G17 have had no problems with the teflon reloads of True Weight.

charlie-xray
03-05-2007, 00:09
Scratching the bore??? So this possible pala.

Originally posted by vega
I hope he didn't scratch the bore.

atmarcella
03-05-2007, 05:21
no, unless you do it on purpose with a sinsil and hammer, just dont use stainless steel bore brush:thumbsup:

charlie-xray
03-05-2007, 06:02
Right, :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Originally posted by atmarcella
no, unless you do it on purpose with a sinsil and hammer, just dont use stainless steel bore brush:thumbsup: