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atmarcella
03-09-2007, 08:12
a 1.5lb. trigger pull for a glock!

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s237/atmarcella/03092007096.jpg


actually this is not new to me, i knew the secret to the 1.5lb. pull since last year, the real headache was the reset! i could not figure out how to have a reliable reset with a 1.5lb. pull, it was easy w/ a 2+lb. pull but a real headache once i went down. last week in batangas i was averaging 3 malf's bcos of reset problems, another 3 bcos of ftf's, but thats another story altogether. finally after totally destroying 1 connector and nearly destroying a trigger bar... i think i got it!:supergrin: :supergrin: :supergrin:

i tested it kanina and it was flawless.

but i think the real test would be in the heat of battle....... so, i would like to take this opportunity to invite everyone to our scheduled level 3 match this coming march 30, it would be like the batangas level 3 w/c means you can finish it in one day:thumbsup:

hope to see you here....

next stop... stronghand, i heard their lead bullets are smaller than jethro's, i went to final option and delio the gunsmith and i tried their reamer, but it was already reamed, meaning the reamer didnt take any material off, sabi ni delio sayang lang kung pilitin namin. anyways, see you soon.

Kaiser Soze
03-09-2007, 08:30
Whoa! That's something I've never heard of before. Are you going to use it for just competition or for carry as well?

s0nny_g17
03-09-2007, 14:19
pa-share naman po ng 1.5lb trigger pull

ano mga adjustments and modification ginawa ninyo? papicture na rin kung pwede

egoy
03-09-2007, 16:56
sir may cof na ba ang 7 lakes? how many stages? rounds? tnx

jimbullet
03-09-2007, 18:01
How can we get our glocks to do the same????:thumbsup:

atmarcella
03-09-2007, 18:31
Whoa! That's something I've never heard of before. Are you going to use it for just competition or for carry as well?

my gun is for comp and carry, in fact i switched to sevigny carry sights bcos the sights that i was using before, dp adjustable/fo front, was not suitable for carry.....but i never carry chamber loaded, i believe in the "israeli draw".

pa-share naman po ng 1.5lb trigger pull ano mga adjustments and modification ginawa ninyo? papicture na rin kung pwede

i can take you thru it step by step sir, but first i got to know kung ano na nagawa mo sa baril mo:thumbsup:


sir may cof na ba ang 7 lakes? how many stages? rounds? tnx

sir, wala pa, post ko dito as soon as i get it, tnx


How can we get our glocks to do the same????

sir ano na nakalagay or nakalikot nyo sa glock nyo?

HEAVY
03-09-2007, 18:44
sir, yung 19 ko naka 3.5 disconnector lang. ano pa gagawin ko?

atmarcella
03-09-2007, 18:50
next step would be, reduced power striker spring, mariner cups, glockmeister extra power trigger spring....i think the springs you can get at glockmeister and the cups are available here...final option or trust trade:thumbsup:

Kaiser Soze
03-09-2007, 19:02
Thanks for the reply. Good thing you're not going to carry Condition 1, I'd be a bit nervous doing the same with such a light trigger pull.

s0nny_g17
03-10-2007, 21:18
any mods sa triggerbar, striker and striker safety?

atmarcella
03-11-2007, 01:18
re-drilled trigger bar, lightning strike lightened steel striker, and striker safety removed.

horge
03-11-2007, 01:34
Originally posted by atmarcella
...a 1.5lb. trigger pull for a glock!...
...for comp and carry...
...striker safety removed... :whistling:


...I know naman that you'll be extra careful, atmarcella :)

atmarcella
03-11-2007, 01:52
this is the difference between a regular cz75 and the cz75 combat, their competition pistol, this was taken from the cz website:


Micrometric rear sight, trigger overtravel regulation, absence of the firing pin block and other special features predispose this model to be used in target shooting competitions.

if they can do it why cant i do it???????????

atmarcella
03-11-2007, 01:54
also some models of the 1911 that have better crispier trigger pulls dont have a firing pin block, or it has also been removed altogether.

horge
03-11-2007, 03:14
Peace! :)
No one's saying "you can't".
But if you want reasons why I was 'whistling'...


That CZ75 still has a positive manual safety. Ditto the 1911.
Your Glock doesn't, and its striker safety is there for a reason.
I mean...

I wouldn't carry a 1911 chambered, cocked and unlocked,
even with a factory 4.5 pound trigger -much less with a 1.5 pounder.*
If you think you have what it takes to do that safely, 24/7,
in public with lots of bystanders potentially around, then you
possess more confidence than I ever could.

A superlight trigger for comp isn't unusual, but an SD situation
is a totally different barrel of fish:

You won't have the luxury of 180 degrees of relative surety that you
won't hit innocents even with an ND, let alone the advance notice
that you are going to be launching lead that day, nor will you have
to deal with the amped odds of a draw-snag ND from concealment skin,
etc., etc., etc.

Superlight triggers, concealment holsters and SD adrenaline dumps
are just too edgy a recipe for me, especially when I and mine could
be out there, unawares, in the line of fire.

JMHO, YMMV, TANSTAAFL, etc.

Again, peace.
My sincere apologies if I came off a little harsh, 'pare!

:)
horge



EDIT: forgot the footnote below.
*Carrying unchambered is possibly as dangerous, but only to
the one carrying and only in the time of his/her need to be armed.

atmarcella
03-11-2007, 19:07
wala pare i didnt take it that way, i was just showing you the rationale behind why i did what i did. no offense was taken and i hope non was given.

actually, you can have a 1.5lb. glock trigger w/ the stiker safety installed, vanek has done it, i did it before, but, i felt it was still a glock trigger, i.e. long travel.

sabi ko sa sarili ko, gusto ko "hair trigger" talaga, and this is what i came up with.

with regards to carrying "condition 2".

in an SD situation, my humble opinion is, knowing how to shoot is only half the battle won, the other half is knowing how to look for cover. take a look for example what happened to s. parsons, why did he win? the simple answer is he knew how to look for cover then shoot from cover. i feel that when im carrying condition 2 before i draw my gun ill look for cover first then shoot from cover. if i have no choice, then i feel that w/ practice, i can draw and rack the slide as fast as the other person can draw and shoot, thats why i shoot ipsc w/ the same gun that i carry. YMMV peace mr. H:thumbsup:

batangueno
03-11-2007, 21:04
Andrew, with the lighter striker spring and lightened steel striker hindi ka ba naka-experience ng light primer strikes? Sa G17 ko kasi with the lighter striker spring and titanium striker, i experience this with CCI primers. Sa winchester primers walang problema pero yung mga factory defense loads kasi mukhang CCI primers ang gamit.

stanship
03-12-2007, 00:13
Originally posted by atmarcella
...and striker safety removed.

hi andrew,

can i ask, which part of the setup keeps the extractor in place since the striker safety was removed?

thanks,
stan

ps - see you sa san pablo shoot. i already installed the dawson sight i bought from you. :)

atmarcella
03-12-2007, 00:32
Andrew, with the lighter striker spring and lightened steel striker hindi ka ba naka-experience ng light primer strikes? Sa G17 ko kasi with the lighter striker spring and titanium striker, i experience this with CCI primers. Sa winchester primers walang problema pero yung mga factory defense loads kasi mukhang CCI primers ang gamit.

hi paul,
naka experienced ako light primer strike sa stock striker and light striker spring, thats why nag palit ako ng lightened steel, na notice ko so far mas malalim ang tama nya sa primers compared to the stock striker and so far wala pa naman dud ako na experienced, si chris patty nag recommend ng lightened steel i was supposed to go with Ti also pero di daw tumatagal yun. his website is cpwsa.com.

hi andrew,

can i ask, which part of the setup keeps the extractor in place since the striker safety was removed?

thanks,
stan


hi stan,

the thing.....i took a peek at the manual and its called the extractor deppressor plunger, its no. 12 in the drawing in the manual :supergrin: :supergrin:

see you here march 30:thumbsup:

stanship
03-12-2007, 00:48
Originally posted by atmarcella


hi stan,

the thing.....i took a peek at the manual and its called the extractor deppressor plunger, its no. 12 in the drawing in the manual :supergrin: :supergrin:

see you here march 30:thumbsup:

ok andrew see you on march 31, patingin na din ng setup mo at papuputok na din ha?

cheers,
stan

batangueno
03-12-2007, 00:50
Originally posted by atmarcella
hi paul,
naka experienced ako light primer strike sa stock striker and light striker spring, thats why nag palit ako ng lightened steel, na notice ko so far mas malalim ang tama nya sa primers compared to the stock striker and so far wala pa naman dud ako na experienced, si chris patty nag recommend ng lightened steel i was supposed to go with Ti also pero di daw tumatagal yun. his website is cpwsa.com.

Ah mas maganda pala talaga yung lightened steel than titanium striker. Thanks. :)

atmarcella
03-12-2007, 00:58
Originally posted by stanship
ok andrew see you on march 31, patingin na din ng setup mo at papuputok na din ha?

cheers,
stan

sure!!!

Putok-Glock
03-13-2007, 18:59
atma, i plan to see you ang your newfound glk trigger on the 31st in sn pablo.:wavey:

atmarcella
03-14-2007, 19:13
no prob! see you:thumbsup:

atmarcella
03-14-2007, 19:16
Originally posted by batangueno
Ah mas maganda pala talaga yung lightened steel than titanium striker. Thanks. :)

paul,

its also recommended by "Joe D", a respected glocksmith at benos glock forum:thumbsup:


+1 on the lwt steel with the 4# spring. It pops every primer I have tried - Federal, CCI or Winchester.

isuzu
03-14-2007, 20:03
Originally posted by atmarcella
re-drilled trigger bar, lightning strike lightened steel striker, and striker safety removed.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but does the striker safety hold the extractor in place?

stanship
03-14-2007, 20:39
Originally posted by isuzu
Correct me if I'm wrong, but does the striker safety hold the extractor in place?

hi isuzu,

that was i was thinking when i posted my question to andrew above...

andrew's reply is that the extractor is being kept in place by the plunger, which still does not convince me 100%. On 31st I will see his setup and can confirm for my self.

stanship

atmarcella
03-15-2007, 19:41
in fact its the other way around, the striker saftey is being held in place by the extractor:supergrin:

MERCMADE
05-25-2007, 07:52
read this post before I'm sorry if i'm bringing it back but you seem very knowledgeable in this modification. I have a 22c, i have a factory 3.5 connector as my first mod on the gun, recently i bought a wolf competition set with reduced strikr and plunger springs, and an extra power trigger spring.i've done the 25 cent rigger job on it before and i cant complain about the trigger now with the set,Problem is I've only fired it once because of this friggin gun ban and i'm concerned with reliability.baka di pumutok pag kailangan, its my everyday carry gun pa naman.sir atmarcella what do you think about the set up, safe kaya?
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q255/MFTTM/mod.jpg


ps: di ko sinama yung extra power trigger spring , nagkaproblema ako sa reset nung kinabit ko e, ginamit ko ung luma

TIA

atmarcella
05-26-2007, 02:11
walang problema yan, dumaan din ako sa set-up that you have right now and during that time napalaban pa nga si kalokoy...wala naman problema, reliable naman sya. if you want to use the extra power trigger spring reliably you have to use a lone wolff dist. connector, w/ this connector i even use a stronger trigger spring, the glockmeister extra power trigger spring:thumbsup: it will shave a lb. off your trigger pull:supergrin:

oh and btw ang 22 ko carry gun ko din:supergrin: that why reliability is a priority to me:thumbsup:

MERCMADE
05-27-2007, 05:11
many thanks man.so the extra power trigger spring pala lessens trigger pull weight, thanks

hinde na ako magaalala sa set up ko

atmarcella
05-27-2007, 05:15
no worries mate:supergrin: hehe aussie lingo yan hehehe:supergrin: