IronHorseman
03-21-2007, 19:52
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From: jmtomes@(jmtomes) Date: Wed, Mar 21, 2007, 6:29pm To: "Undisclosed-Recipient:;"@webtv.net Subject: Arrogance with a capital A
__Defiant arrogance_or perhaps jackasses would be a good description to paint the attitude the Indiana_State Police has in_dragging their feet in issuing handgun licenses to applicants.
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___ They've been taking 5 months or more to process the license._ It's my understanding that the policy states 60 days to issue or deny a license._ In an age of lightning quick ability to issue a warrant or run a drivers license or make a dynamic entry into a residence, it's mystifying why it would take 5 months to_issue a carry license to a proper citizen .
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___ I'll tell you why it's taking that long._ The ISP is not getting any money from the revenues from the handgun license because when the lifetime license was passed last year it provided that all the money going to the state was to go the general fund.
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___ Three years ago when we first started to change the handgun license the original language allowed for the ISP to get not only the money they had been receiving from the license, but to also get the $10.00 that had been paid to the local agencies.
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___ Being the obstinate agency they were they fought us every step of the way._ That's when we decided to go for the lifetime carry and send the money to the general fund._ If the ISP could have suppressed their "nose in the air" attitude things might have been different.
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___ I had a conversation just awhile ago with Sen. Nugent's assistant about this and the status on SB. 18 and HB. 1739.
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___ He told me that Sen. Nugent and Sen. Paul wrote a letter to Governor Daniels about the ISP delaying the process and this assistant hand delivered the letter last week._ We should expect the Governor to step on the toes of the ISP and hard!
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___ I'm told the ISP's position is that since there is no penalty for them to issue the license in a timely fashion there is no reason for them to do so.
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___ Let me run down the chain of command for those who are a little fuzzy on it._ The ISP answers to the Governor._ The Governor answers to the people and the people are YOU!
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___ You, being the employer needs to make some calls._ The superintendent of the ISP is Paul Whitesell and his number is 317-232-8241._ The Governor's office is 317-232-4567.
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___ I've got a call into the Gov's office and I also talked to our good friend Chris in Lt. Gov. Becky Skillman's office._ He said he was taking this issue across the hall to the Gov.'s office as soon as we got off the phone._ He is on this e-mail list and I am confident Chris will get me some answers.
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___ This is not a request to call, it's a directive._ The time has come for the sleepy citizens to make demands of the people who receive their wages from the taxes that come from our wages.
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___ The belligerence never stops unless WE MAKE IT STOP. That "we" includes all of us and the people we know.
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___ We've got to quit justifying NOT MAKING A CALL OR WRITING A WARNING LETTER to these "public servants" because we have eased our conscience by make believing that nothing we do will have an effect.
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___ That's horse crap and everyone knows it._ I've made some calls today and plan to make more tomorrow._ If we all have to we might make plans to drop in on our employees up at Indy and ask them face to face what the hold up is.
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___ On the two bills I referred to, which eliminates_FFL dealers from sending the Form 4473's to the ISP,_SB.18 is still alive and HB 1739 has passed out of the Senate committee, but because it has language allowing for the ISP to receive money from the lifetime license it has been referred to a budget committee._ I don't think they should get a dime until they can improve their numbers.
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___ Isn't that how it works?_ No work, no pay!_ HB 1739 by the way has been loaded up by the House_with a lot of non gun language._ It has wording addressing everything from_switchblade knives to ephedrine's.
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___ Make your calls and explain this is not acceptable._ Get two people you know real well, set them down and when you get off the phone hand it to them and make them call._ That's right, make them, because believe it or not some folks need supervision and just asking might not quite be enough.
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Jim and Margie
2nd Amendment Patriots
STAY UNITED
www.2ndamendmentpatriots.org
From: jmtomes@(jmtomes) Date: Wed, Mar 21, 2007, 6:29pm To: "Undisclosed-Recipient:;"@webtv.net Subject: Arrogance with a capital A
__Defiant arrogance_or perhaps jackasses would be a good description to paint the attitude the Indiana_State Police has in_dragging their feet in issuing handgun licenses to applicants.
_
___ They've been taking 5 months or more to process the license._ It's my understanding that the policy states 60 days to issue or deny a license._ In an age of lightning quick ability to issue a warrant or run a drivers license or make a dynamic entry into a residence, it's mystifying why it would take 5 months to_issue a carry license to a proper citizen .
_
___ I'll tell you why it's taking that long._ The ISP is not getting any money from the revenues from the handgun license because when the lifetime license was passed last year it provided that all the money going to the state was to go the general fund.
_
___ Three years ago when we first started to change the handgun license the original language allowed for the ISP to get not only the money they had been receiving from the license, but to also get the $10.00 that had been paid to the local agencies.
_
___ Being the obstinate agency they were they fought us every step of the way._ That's when we decided to go for the lifetime carry and send the money to the general fund._ If the ISP could have suppressed their "nose in the air" attitude things might have been different.
_
___ I had a conversation just awhile ago with Sen. Nugent's assistant about this and the status on SB. 18 and HB. 1739.
_
___ He told me that Sen. Nugent and Sen. Paul wrote a letter to Governor Daniels about the ISP delaying the process and this assistant hand delivered the letter last week._ We should expect the Governor to step on the toes of the ISP and hard!
_
___ I'm told the ISP's position is that since there is no penalty for them to issue the license in a timely fashion there is no reason for them to do so.
_
___ Let me run down the chain of command for those who are a little fuzzy on it._ The ISP answers to the Governor._ The Governor answers to the people and the people are YOU!
_
___ You, being the employer needs to make some calls._ The superintendent of the ISP is Paul Whitesell and his number is 317-232-8241._ The Governor's office is 317-232-4567.
_
___ I've got a call into the Gov's office and I also talked to our good friend Chris in Lt. Gov. Becky Skillman's office._ He said he was taking this issue across the hall to the Gov.'s office as soon as we got off the phone._ He is on this e-mail list and I am confident Chris will get me some answers.
_
___ This is not a request to call, it's a directive._ The time has come for the sleepy citizens to make demands of the people who receive their wages from the taxes that come from our wages.
_
___ The belligerence never stops unless WE MAKE IT STOP. That "we" includes all of us and the people we know.
_
___ We've got to quit justifying NOT MAKING A CALL OR WRITING A WARNING LETTER to these "public servants" because we have eased our conscience by make believing that nothing we do will have an effect.
_
___ That's horse crap and everyone knows it._ I've made some calls today and plan to make more tomorrow._ If we all have to we might make plans to drop in on our employees up at Indy and ask them face to face what the hold up is.
_
___ On the two bills I referred to, which eliminates_FFL dealers from sending the Form 4473's to the ISP,_SB.18 is still alive and HB 1739 has passed out of the Senate committee, but because it has language allowing for the ISP to receive money from the lifetime license it has been referred to a budget committee._ I don't think they should get a dime until they can improve their numbers.
_
___ Isn't that how it works?_ No work, no pay!_ HB 1739 by the way has been loaded up by the House_with a lot of non gun language._ It has wording addressing everything from_switchblade knives to ephedrine's.
___
___ Make your calls and explain this is not acceptable._ Get two people you know real well, set them down and when you get off the phone hand it to them and make them call._ That's right, make them, because believe it or not some folks need supervision and just asking might not quite be enough.
_
___
Jim and Margie
2nd Amendment Patriots
STAY UNITED
www.2ndamendmentpatriots.org