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WiskyT
03-24-2007, 21:23
Many people complain that it takes 90 days to get a CCH in Meck Cnty and think this is some kind of anti-gun thing. I don't know much about Sheriff Pendergraff, but that a big agency w/ many responsibilities takes 90 days DOES NOT mean they are anti-gun.

As a retired cop, I know first hand the BS that an agency like that has to deal with. The volume of paperwork they have to fill out for every pee-ant shoplifter that has to go to the hospital for withdrawl symptoms alone would make most of us jump out a window.

Sheriff Pendergraff goes against the political poopstorm in deporting illegal aliens. He does not have to do this. He catches alot of grief for doing this. Keep this in mind bfeore you complain about him. Illegal aliens kill people every week around here and he is constantly on the radio here promoting his cooperation with DHS to get them out of here.

If you have been unfairly turned down, that is one thing. If it takes the 90 days that is allowed, and you get the permit you are entitled to, maybe you should give a little slack to a guy that is doing the right thing regarding illegals.

FWIW, I don't live in Mecklenburg, but I call 'em the way I see 'em.

BigWaylon
03-25-2007, 13:30
I don't have a problem with the 90-day turnaround...

I will say that Pendergraff talks out both sides of his mouth...very "supportive" when running for election, and has since gone against most of the points he stood for in regards to gun laws...

there aren't a lot of gun owners in his camp...but the 90-day wait is rarely the reason for that...

...and I am a Meck Co resident, who will be applying for his CCW permit after taking the class next Sunday...

Greg

USMC Ryfleman
03-25-2007, 13:42
If he isnt an anti, why wont the prick sign off on class 3's? :wavey:

WiskyT
03-25-2007, 16:00
Originally posted by usmcGlock0311
If he isnt an anti, why wont the prick sign off on class 3's? :wavey:

Because maybe he has other things to do, like be one of only a few public officials in the entire country who is trying to get criminal illegal aliens deported. It may just be that devoting department resources so that you and ten other people who want a 17" barreled shotgun or a supressor can get them just isn't high on his list of things to do.

He probably does nothing to save the whales either, but that doesn't mean he's anti-whale. He may be anti, I don't know enough about him. All I'm saying is that if we take a dump on everybody who does big things right and one little thing wrong, we risk losing their support.

I posted this because it seems like every week somebody is carping about having to wait 90 days, when the law allows for it. I mean carry open if you can't wait, or apply sooner. If he was really looking to stick it to people, he could hold it up more than 90 days. Nobody in Raliegh is going to take time out of their day to stop him. I've seen it first hand in NJ where I used to live. Permit to purchase a handgun taking 8 months. And this was for a Firfighter who just had his background check done by the SAME agency for his hiring. He called the NJSP Firearms unit and everything. The fat crooked chief in that town just didn't want to stop eating long enough to sign the damn thing.

Cannibal Roses
03-25-2007, 16:18
If it truly takes all 90 days to process, prepare and mail the permits, there isn't a problem with it taking that long. However, if the permits are purposely held till the last minute for no reason other than to make people wait, there's a problem. Of course, nobody knows this for sure but the people in the office in charge of the mailings, so blaming the Sheriff is kind of presumptious.

I think all the *****ing comes from people simply being anxious. It's hard to wait an hour in line at Carowinds to ride Top Gun. It's even harder to wait 90 days to carry a weapon that you're excited about! Still, I'm glad I live in Gaston County!

USMC Ryfleman
03-25-2007, 16:45
Originally posted by WiskyT
Because maybe he has other things to do, like be one of only a few public officials in the entire country who is trying to get criminal illegal aliens deported. It may just be that devoting department resources so that you and ten other people who want a 17" barreled shotgun or a supressor can get them just isn't high on his list of things to do.

He probably does nothing to save the whales either, but that doesn't mean he's anti-whale. He may be anti, I don't know enough about him. All I'm saying is that if we take a dump on everybody who does big things right and one little thing wrong, we risk losing their support.

I posted this because it seems like every week somebody is carping about having to wait 90 days, when the law allows for it. I mean carry open if you can't wait, or apply sooner. If he was really looking to stick it to people, he could hold it up more than 90 days. Nobody in Raliegh is going to take time out of their day to stop him. I've seen it first hand in NJ where I used to live.
Permit to purchase a handgun taking 8 months. And this was for a Firfighter who just had his background check done by the SAME agency for his hiring. He called the NJSP Firearms unit and everything. The fat crooked chief in that town just didn't want to stop eating long enough to sign the damn thing.



Better things to do like get illegals deported? Yeah right, come take a ride down Central Ave, South Blvd, Eastway. Yeah he is sure doing a good job! :upeyes:

He is an anti prick no matter how you try to sugar coat it!


ETA- The sheriffs office claims they will notify you by mail when your CCW is set to expire within 90 days. NO ONE I have ever spoke to has EVER got that letter including myself. Guess what? If you go in for a renewal 89 days before your CCW expires, you get to take the class again and go thru the whole BS process again! When I got my RENEWAL it took 89 days.

And before you say "he is too busy tending to more important matters" , Thats why we as taxpayers provide him with $100,000+ salary a year, so he can provide these services WE pay for. He has absolutely no reason not to sign off on class 3.

WiskyT
03-25-2007, 17:08
usmcGlock0311: You make my point for me. You are now carping that illegal aliens on the corner are the fault of the Sheriff? He is deporting CRIMINAL illegals who are taken to the Meck jail. Again priorities. He's deporting the guy with his 6 DWI, not the guy hanging out looking to paint some houses. You've got Sheriff Joe Arpiao, Pendergraff, and a couple others in this country doing that and that's it. Let's bad mouth the guy becuase he doesn't get as excited about issuing you a class111 that you don't need him for anyway. Add a little tinfoil to your hat as I think it has some thin spots...

...And look out! Sheriff pendergraff is coming to take your guns away.

BTW, do you have any idea how much crap has to be done to house ONE prisoner? Feed them, protect them, transport them to court, transport them to the hospital everytime they get bored, then you have to do reports on all the above. I've filled out a form stating "Sleeping" regarding a prisoner's condition...every fifteen minutes, for six hours, untill relieved by another cop who had to do the same thing just because the guy said he was depressed! Then the Sheriff's Department has all the personel matters for it's employees, court orders, protecting the courts, sex offender registry, victim/witness notification, and all of that has to be documented. And I wasn't even in a SD, that's just what I know of from being a cop.

And if he doesn't want to drop everything so you can get paperwork required by a Federal Agency, not him, then he's a prick:thumbsup:

USMC Ryfleman
03-25-2007, 17:26
I have had to watch detainees in that same capacity but in a military setting, thats why he has CO's. Maybe some other Meklenburg residents will chime in about this issue since you dont live here and dont know much about him. :upeyes:

You must be his drinking buddy.

BigWaylon
03-25-2007, 19:48
Originally posted by WiskyT
usmcGlock0311: You make my point for me. You are now carping that illegal aliens on the corner are the fault of the Sheriff? He is deporting CRIMINAL illegals who are taken to the Meck jail. Again priorities. He's deporting the guy with his 6 DWI, not the guy hanging out looking to paint some houses.

you actually hit on one of the big complaints around here...

why are we waiting til #6? AFTER they've killed innocent people by driving the wrong way on the interstate?

I'd rather have an "anti" if I knew they were "anti" from day one...to run for office stating one set of agendas, then flip-flop once you get in, is what ticks me off...

Greg

USMC Ryfleman
03-26-2007, 14:50
Last I heard, if you were here illegally, you are a criminal! Put that in your pipe and smoke it! :rofl:

Dont have time for trolls!

USMC out!

spoonhatchcrap
03-26-2007, 15:04
i live in meck and you can be damn sure i wont be voting for pendergraph next time around...

reed2u
04-14-2007, 18:13
Not worried about the 90 day wait. In fact, I recieved mine well before the 90 day period. That's minor stuff IMHO - However being an ex deputy I see the law as it's written. Sheriff Pendergraf'sf only fault as I see it is not deporting them BEFORE 6+ DUI's. When it comes to drinking and driving there's a track record with these folks. It's a problem that burns me up. That may not be the PC thing to say, but I dont believe in that either. I've worked the jail out in southern california and can recognize a pattern when I see it.

If you're an illegal alien - then in my book you're just plain that, "illegal" - no matter what race. Deport the SOB—and let someone else paint the house.

scnative
04-16-2007, 06:25
If you're an illegal alien - then in my book you're just plain that, "illegal" - no matter what race. Deport the SOB—and let someone else paint the house. [/B]

If we deport all the illegals, there wouldn't be anybody to mow the grass, blow the leaves, put up drywall, paint the house....this place would be a mess! :supergrin:

jlpayne86
04-18-2007, 11:32
I USED TO Live in meck co. and since moved to lincoln county, seems alot better, but Pendergraph is still a prick!!! He is very much anit-gun as far as I can tell. And when I was a bail bondsman he basically put us out of business letting all the illegals and those that shouldnt be out on their own with just a signature and then wonders why there are so many unserved warrants in MEck co! Yes Pendergraph is a problem.

RoyRNC
04-18-2007, 19:54
Originally posted by WiskyT
BTW, do you have any idea how much crap has to be done to house ONE prisoner? Feed them, protect them, transport them to court, transport them to the hospital everytime they get bored, then you have to do reports on all the above. I've filled out a form stating "Sleeping" regarding a prisoner's condition...every fifteen minutes, for six hours, untill relieved by another cop who had to do the same thing just because the guy said he was depressed! Then the Sheriff's Department has all the personel matters for it's employees, court orders, protecting the courts, sex offender registry, victim/witness notification, and all of that has to be documented. And I wasn't even in a SD, that's just what I know of from being a cop.

And if he doesn't want to drop everything so you can get paperwork required by a Federal Agency, not him, then he's a prick:thumbsup:

I had no idea that Pendegraph does all these things himself? No wonder he does not have any time to listed to his constituents.

All joking aside, it is his responsibility to hire the right personnel and to staff each dept with compitent employees to do all these things you mention. His role is administrative. I assure you he is not personally checking the beds of each inmate or escorting each illegal back across the border. He is a poor manager pure and simple. He is an elected official who got in over his head. I've seen many incompetent managers and he shares all the same characteristics. He does not listen but rather does what he wants to do and not what he is asked to do by those people he serves. Excuse me for actually demanding/expecting competence from my elected officials.

Just my 2 cents on the matter.

DrMarc
04-20-2007, 11:11
RoyRNC,

You make some excellent points.

Well said!