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G17GUY
04-08-2007, 20:11
http://www.gs2ac.com/flyers/PAPoliceGunInfoCollection.pdf

FThorn
04-09-2007, 11:46
Palo Alto....INDIANA?? :)

HK45Mark23
04-09-2007, 11:57
I have sent this information to the 2nd Amendment Patriots.

Bump

R. Emmelman
04-09-2007, 12:46
Originally posted by FThorn
Palo Alto....INDIANA?? :)
Palo Alto today, Indianapolis tomorrow!

Just wait, it's coming...

Fisher 21
04-09-2007, 19:01
San Francisco according to the area code.

SURPRISE, SURPRISE, SURPRISE (in my best Gomer Pyle voice)

R. Emmelman
04-09-2007, 19:05
It is you duty as a citizen to report on your neighbors... Oh, wait, that was the USSR... Never mind... :supergrin:

Sh33pDog
04-09-2007, 19:31
This sucks....it really does! But while we are all worried about whats happening in Palo Alto we are getting kicked around in our own state!

News article: http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070409/LOCAL18/704090408

Thread:
http://www.glocktalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=683187

We need to clean up our own house first!

Sh33pdog out!

Fisher 21
04-10-2007, 05:51
"Other gun enthusiasts, however, supported the idea.

Don Davis, the largest gun dealer in Indiana, said he saw no problem with extending the city prohibition. Davis said it was a desire to fire a gun in a safe place that prompted him to build the first firing range in a retail gun store three decades ago.

"We have to start somewhere, because we're having all kinds of problems with people shooting people," Davis said. "On New Year's Eve, you don't want a hail of bullets falling on your loved ones."


Dear Lord,
Please shut this man up

Amen

Fisher 21
04-10-2007, 06:02
Top Ten U.S. Gun Dealers
In 2003, the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) released data about guns traced to crimes from 1989 through 1996. (This is the most current information available on this subject at the moment.) The data showed that many of the guns traced to crimes were sold by the same gun dealers. Below is a list of ten of the dealers who have sold thousands of guns that were later used to commit crimes.

6) Don's Guns & Galleries Inc., Indianapolis, IN
From 1989 through 1996, this dealer sold 398 guns traced to crime; 311 of those guns had a "short time to crime" as defined by ATF. The guns were involved in at least 7 homicides, 12 assaults, 2 robberies, and 370 additional gun crimes. The dealer also sold at least 2012 handguns in multiple sales.

Numerous gun traffickers have "straw purchased" dozens of guns from Don's Guns in recent years. For example, between October 2001 and January 2002, Etely Diamond used two straw purchasers to buy 25 handguns from Don's Guns and then resold them on the streets of Chicago.

Another trafficker, Jerome Steele, used straw buyers to obtain 12 and 9 guns on two different occasions in 2002 from Don's Guns and then resold them illegally in Chicago. A third trafficker, Willie Soward, also used straw buyers to obtain guns from Don's Guns for resale in Chicago.

MikeG23
04-12-2007, 02:42
How on earth could the ATF release this data showing that they know full well the problem that exist and then continue to allow it to happen?

Itís a sad thing to say, because of the horrendous things that have came from it, but perhaps allowing these types of dealer to continue operating suites an agenda?

FThorn
04-12-2007, 03:32
Originally posted by MikeG23
How on earth could the ATF release this data showing that they know full well the problem that exist and then continue to allow it to happen?

Itís a sad thing to say, because of the horrendous things that have came from it, but perhaps allowing these types of dealer to continue operating suites an agenda?

Don's argument is his store shows up on top because he fills out all the paperwork and is 'above board'. Other stores/guys would be selling this stuff out the back door, in dishonest deals, and thus do not show up on any reports since they are illegal.

epsylum
04-12-2007, 15:27
Originally posted by Fisher 21
Numerous gun traffickers have "straw purchased" dozens of guns from Don's Guns in recent years. For example, between October 2001 and January 2002, Etely Diamond used two straw purchasers to buy 25 handguns from Don's Guns and then resold them on the streets of Chicago.

Another trafficker, Jerome Steele, used straw buyers to obtain 12 and 9 guns on two different occasions in 2002 from Don's Guns and then resold them illegally in Chicago. A third trafficker, Willie Soward, also used straw buyers to obtain guns from Don's Guns for resale in Chicago.

Knowing the prices Don charges, I wonder how much they were going for in Chicago? That $700 used Glock just became a $1000 used Glock. :shocked:

skydelta34
04-12-2007, 16:33
http://www.wthr.com/Global/story.asp?S=6297587&nav=menu188_2_6


Police launch effort against illegal guns

March 29, 2007 04:56 PM EDT

Indianapolis - Law enforcement officials announced a community initiative to get illegal guns off the streets.

Marion County has seen a succession of violent crimes since the start of the year, including a rash of carjackings in January and two separate murder cases of women with their young children present.

Police are looking to the public for help in catching several suspects in unsolved crimes. Now they want help in keeping unregistered guns off the streets.

Sheriff Frank Anderson and Chief Michael Spears joined community leaders to announce "Operation Saturday Night Special." They spoke about the program at the Englewood Christian Church on Rural Street Thursday morning.

Marion County Sheriff Frank Anderson talks about fighting crime and on Thursday he put his money where his mouth is. Anderson presented Crime Stoppers of central Indiana with a $100,000 check. The money comes from the jail commissary when inmates by snacks and supplies.

Crime Stoppers will use the money to pay tips to people who help police find illegal guns. Anonymous callers can earn $500 every time they help officers retrieve a gun that leads to an arrest. The gun tip money couldn't come at a better time.

"We rely on the community to make these tips, though. It's up to the individuals in the community to call our number," said John Apolzan, Crime Stoppers.

In 2006, instead of selling illegal guns confiscated from suspects, Sheriff Anderson ordered the guns destroyed. The guns are disabled by a property room supervisor using a vice pressure machine.

"I refuse to put another gun back on the street. Perhaps there is no way to tell how many lives we have saved by doing that," said Anderson.

Now anyone can pocket $500 with just an anonymous phone call and, police say, possibly save a life at the same time.

"We would like to try to proactively, preventably be in front of the crime and keep them from occuring," said Chief Spears.

The chief talked about lives torn apart by gun violence, saying that someone's momentary lapse of judgment or anger can turn into a lifetime of despair for families. Indianapolis saw one such apparent example of that when a teenager shot a family friend to death over a van repair bill earlier this week.

Call 262-TIPS to receive a cash reward for reporting an illegal gun.

HK45Mark23
04-12-2007, 17:55
Originally posted by skydelta34
http://www.wthr.com/Global/story.asp?S=6297587&nav=menu188_2_6
Anonymous callers can earn $500 every time they help officers retrieve a gun that leads to an arrest.


How can you collect the money if youíre anonymous?