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Hailstorm
04-23-2007, 09:32
Stopped by to check on some stuff. They had two no weapons stickers on the doors. All I can say is, guess who didn't buy anything from them today;)

We ought to make a list of stores that don't support our rights.

darkside852003
04-23-2007, 09:43
The Warren store at 12 Mile and Van Dyke has the same.

DennisH
04-23-2007, 13:31
When I see a "No Weapons" sign, I just ignore it. If they for some reason could see that I was carrying and asked me to leave, I would. But since I've never been ID'd as carrying by anyone, I just don't let it bother me. I follow the "don't ask, don't tell" rule here. You aren't breaking a law, per se, rather, it's the preference of the store owner. What they don't know won't hurt them. Whether I BUY from them is another matter. All a function of just how much I really need the item I went there for and how easy/hard it would be to get it elsewhere. :patriot: :patriot:

ZIPGRAVER
04-27-2007, 08:19
Originally posted by DennisH
When I see a "No Weapons" sign, I just ignore it. If they for some reason could see that I was carrying and asked me to leave, I would. But since I've never been ID'd as carrying by anyone, I just don't let it bother me. I follow the "don't ask, don't tell" rule here. You aren't breaking a law, per se, rather, it's the preference of the store owner. What they don't know won't hurt them. Whether I BUY from them is another matter. All a function of just how much I really need the item I went there for and how easy/hard it would be to get it elsewhere. :patriot: :patriot:

You could be in trouble there Dennis. If they know or even suspect you are carrying they can call the police and you'd be arrested for TRESPASSING, a minor misdemeanor, but enough to lose your CCW.

1-2man
04-27-2007, 08:31
I can honestly say I've never seen one of these signs. I'm going to have to start looking for them. (Probably because all I do is work, eat and sleep and never go anywhere!):D

Timotheous46
04-27-2007, 10:04
You could always do what I did for one retailer. I had to purchase a bunch of video equipment (3 TV’s, vcrs and a couple of video cameras. When I went to his store I saw one of the “no weapons” signs and just went some where else. The next store I went to had no such signs and I purchased the equipment I needed and some other stuff. The next day I called the manager and suggested that the sign be amended to say no ILLEGAL weapons. That way they would have some protection against lawyers if some nut case did some shooting. Then … I let him know that the sign cost him my business and faxed him a copy of the invoice from the store that I had made a rather large purchase. The next week the sign was gone.

They may not care about our rights, but they care about lost business.

Tim

Hailstorm
04-28-2007, 16:58
they cannot arrest you right off for having a CCW in a store or place with a sign. They have to ask you to leave. If you don't. then they have you for tresspassing.

Errick
04-28-2007, 19:49
Originally posted by Hailstorm
Stopped by to check on some stuff. They had two no weapons stickers on the doors. All I can say is, guess who didn't buy anything from them today;)

We ought to make a list of stores that don't support our rights.

http://www.mcrgo.org/mcrgo/

See "places to avoid"

Their list is growing all the time, BTW I listed Value City Novi with them as they are posted too.

I no longer do business with them.


Certain businesses in Michigan have posted "No-Guns" signs indicating that persons lawfully licensed to carry concealed firearms are not welcome on their property. Although most businesses in Michigan have chosen not to post discriminatory signs against concealed pistol license holders, some have, and are listed below:

This policy of denying Michigan's most upstanding and law abiding men and women the right to resist a criminal attack while shopping or doing business does not create a safe environment, as only law-abiding citizens will obey their signs. "No-Guns" signs simply mean that criminals have a lot less to worry about and may even be emboldened to commit criminal acts in these so-called "gun free environments".

When you see a "No-Guns" signs on a retail store, restaurant, bank, credit union or taxpayer funded business, please let us know so we can warn others to shop or go elsewhere while armed.


Attention business owners & managers: If your business is no longer posted or you feel your listing was presented in error, please email: Webmaster@mcrgo.org.
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Name (click to sort) City County Type Business Address
AllTel Big Rapids Mecosta Retail 840 S State Street
American Red Cross Svc Ctr Livonia Wayne Service 36650 5 Mile Rd
BCN-Health Central East Lansing Ingham Service 1525 W. Lake Lansing Rd
Bennigan's Restaurant Big Rapids Mecosta Restaurant 1005 Perry
Borgess Fitness Center Kalamazoo Kalamazoo Service 3025 Gull Road
Brandon Township Library Ortonville Oakland Library 304 South St
Business City County Type Address
Capital Community CU Greenville Montcalm CreditUnion 212 West Gibson Drive
Cellular One Petoskey Emmet Retail 1151 US 31 N.
Cellular One East Tawas Iosco Retail 200 W Bay St # 3
Cellular One Cadillac Wexford Retail 811 N. Mitchell
Church's Chicken Detroit Wayne Restaurant 16100 Livernois Ave
Consumers Concrete Corp Lansing Ingham Service 1367 Lake Lansing Rd
Dist Health Dept #2 West Branch Ogemaw Service 630 Progress St
Family Health Care Baldwin Newaygo Service 11 N. Maple
Ferguson Enterprises Jackson Jackson Distributor 730 E. Mansion St
Ferguson Enterprises Saginaw Saginaw Distributor 3944 Fortune Blvd
Fifth Third Bank Monroe Monroe Bank 453 S. Monroe St
Financial Plus Credit Union Flint Genesee CreditUnion G-3381 Van Slyke Road
Firestone Tire Center Bay City Bay Retail 416 Washington Ave
Flint Area School Emp. C.U. Flint Genesee CreditUnion 4411 Calkins Road
Frenchtown Square Mall Monroe Monroe Retail 2121 N Monroe St
Gibraltar Trade Center Taylor Wayne Retail 15525 Racho Rd
Good Shepard Credit Union Lincoln Park Wayne CreditUnion 4111 Fort Street
Goodyear Auto Service Ctr Fort Gratiot Twp St. Clair Retail 4655 24th Avenue
Goodyear/Gemini Tire Ann Arbor Washtenaw Retail 2260 W Stadium Blvd
GrayBar Electric Lansing Ingham Retail 401 Elm St
GrayBar Electric Flint Genesee Retail 2424 Kansas Ave
Jared Galleria of Jewelry Grandville Kent Retail 3610 Rivertown Pkwy SW
Jared Galleria of Jewelry Novi Oakland Retail 27795 Novi Rd.
Jared Galleria of Jewelry Madison Heights Macomb Retail 451 W. 14 Mile Rd
Jared Galleria of Jewelry Auburn Hills Oakland Retail 3960 Baldwin Rd.
Jared Galleria of Jewelry Utica Macomb Retail 45011 Park Ave
Kalsee Credit Union Portage Kalamazoo CreditUnion 7966 Lovers Lane
Kalsee Credit Union Kalamazoo Kalamazoo CreditUnion 2501 Millcork St
Kalsee Credit Union Kalamazoo Kalamazoo CreditUnion 316 W Mosel Ave
Leppinks Food Howard Montcalm Retail 730 W Shaw St
Leppinks Food Belding Ionia Retail 301 West Main
Meridian Mall Okemos Ingham Retail 1982 W.Grand River
Michigan Kenworth Grand Rapids Kent Service 7393 Expressway Ct SW
Michigan Kenworth Grand Rapids Kent Retail US 131 Exit 75
Midland Sport & Spine Midland Midland Service 424 W Wackerly St
NuUnion Credit Union Mount Pleasant Isabella CreditUnion 1011 N. Harris Street
NuUnion Credit Union Okemos Ingham CreditUnion 1821 Newman Rd
NuUnion Credit Union Lansing Ingham CreditUnion 501 S Capitol Ave
NuUnion Credit Union Hastings Barry CreditUnion 202 E. State St
Ogemaw County Fair West Branch Ogemaw Fairground 2300 Rifle River Trail
Oscoda Health Park Oscoda Iosco Service 5939 Huron Road
Preferred Federal Greenville Montcalm CreditUnion 534 N. Lafayette
Progressive Insur Svc Ctr Sterling Heights Macomb Service 40770 Mound Road
Renaissance Festival Holly Oakland Fairground 12600 Dixie Highway
Star Theater Grand Rapids Kent MovieTheater 3000 Alpine NW
Star Theater Holland Ottawa MovieTheater 12270 James St
Sunrise Family Credit Union Standish Arenac CreditUnion 3887 S. Huron Rd
Sunrise Family CU Bay City Bay CreditUnion 404 S Euclid
Taystee Bread Outlet Flint Genesee Retail 1356 W. Hill Rd
Touchstone Innovare Grand Rapids Kent Service 201 Sheldon Ave SE
Tuesday Morning Grand Rapids Kent Retail 3343 Alpine Ave NW
Tuesday Morning Clawson Oakland Retail 1159 Fourteen Mile Rd
Tuesday Morning Kentwood Kent Retail 3534 Lake Eastbrook Blvd
United Financial Credit Union Bridgeport Saginaw CreditUnion 5658 Dixie Hwy
United Financial Credit Union Saginaw Saginaw CreditUnion 4685 State St
Value City Furniture Flint Genesee Retail 4901 Fenton Road
Value City Furniture Taylor Wayne Retail 23859 Eureka Road
Value City Furniture Novi Oakland Retail 43610 W Oaks Dr
Value City Furniture Saginaw Saginaw Retail 3878 Bay
Value City Furniture Lansing Ingham Retail 800 S Waverly Road
Value City Furniture Warren Macomb Retail 29134 Van Dyke Ave
Valvoline Instant Oil Change Livonia Wayne Service 31151 Five Mile Rd
Wayne Westland Federal Westland Wayne CreditUnion 500 South Wayne Road

(Click on column headers to sort) last update: apr 18, 2007

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Hailstorm
04-29-2007, 11:13
*Gibraltar Trade Center Taylor*

Ok, how do you do gunshows if you can't have guns? Just show pictures?