Best combination of parts for lightest trigger pull

[slate mike]

Best connector and spring combo for lightest trigger pull(been shooting 1911's for a long time but have 3 Glocks now and want the best trigger pull)Thanx!

[ecmills]

Give Vanek Custom $130 and be done with it. It'll be lighter, about as cheap, and certainly faster than trying out connector A, Spring B, and whatchamacalit C.

I stuck a Vanek in my 34 and let 3 or 4 people shoot it at our last IDPA event. 2 of them have now bought Vanek kits. :supergrin:

2 pound trigger, even shorter reset, and a very crisp break. It's also 100% reliable.

[GlockWORX]

The GlockWORX trigger kit is the fastest and best performing kit on the market. it costs $119.99 and will give your trigger a lighter pull(between 2-3.5lb adjustable with springs included in the kit), with virtually no pre-travel, completely adjustable over travel, extremely crisp smooth breath, and make the pull of the trigger (http://www.glockworx.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=46&category_id=1&manufacturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=33) as close as it can possilby to the smoothness of a 1911. :thumbsup:

[Pierre!]

Well, I did a TriggerKit.com kit without the connector, then dropped in a LoneWolf *NextGen* 3.5Lb connector.

Works sweet for me... works best on those days when I can actually *shoot* (grin)

HTH - Oh - trigger cost installed with shipping is under $100...

[Judgemax]

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[RRTX2007]

Yeah, no one can sue you for putting 10,000 rds. thru your handgun and polishing the trigger connects w/o knowing it, right? ;)

[glockophilic]

Hmmmm how about $12.50 and some 400 grit sand paper? Get a 3.5lb connector for about $10 at midwayusa or brownells . Get a Glockmeister reduced power trigger spring for $2.50. Just polish the connector a little and install and you should be at an actual 3.5lb break (normally 3.5lb connector + reguler spring = 4lb break) and a less then 3lb pull. That is the cheap option.

[AJSully421]

i have done most of the above to my g17... it is very nice, and i really wouldn't like to go lighter. get a lighter striker spring, 3.5 connector and polish the heck out of every contact point... i've spent maybe 2-3 hours with a dremel on mine, and all will be well.

[GlockWORX]

The diffference between these bargain store trigger jobs and a trigger kit are the smoothness of the trigger pull and the reduction of pre travel and over travel. there is no bargain trigger kit that can eliminate pre travel nor will they give you the crisp solid feel of a complete kit. They will however save you a little $

:banana:

[Judgemax]

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[sidewinder6]

Originally posted by RRTX2007
Yeah, no one can sue you for putting 10,000 rds. thru your handgun and polishing the trigger connects w/o knowing it, right? ;)

That depends on who owns the gun, eg.. a police department or whether your a citizen. Having come from the LE community but am now out of that biz, I would be proud to explain that I have a well maintained firearm that I shoot regularly in a competitive sport. One has nothing to do with the other unless the fact of a defensive shooting were in dispute or it was a ND/AD.

Now to my question for the folks here, anyone have comparison information between the Vanek Custom and Glockworx kits??? I might want to cut down on the number of swingers that are low left in my groups :shocked:

[GlockWORX]

Originally posted by Judgemax
Glockworx,
Have you ever seen a skeletonized/fluted firing pin? I'm just wondering if this friend bought it or designed it himself.

i have not personally seen a skeletonized firing pin. there is a good chance he designed it himslef. what is he hoping to accomplish by using it? a lighter strkier?

[GlockWORX]

Originally posted by sidewinder6
Now to my question for the folks here, anyone have comparison information between the Vanek Custom and Glockworx kits??? I might want to cut down on the number of swingers that are low left in my groups :shocked:

There have been some comparisons made on this thread (http://glocktalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=666326&perpage=25&highlight=GlockWORX&pagenumber=4).

[Judgemax]

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[sidewinder6]

Originally posted by GlockWORX
There have been some comparisons made on this thread (http://glocktalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=666326&perpage=25&highlight=GlockWORX&pagenumber=4).

OK, I ordered one.

[GlockWORX]

Originally posted by Judgemax
Yes, and with a lighter fp spring (along with everything above) make for a very light trigger pull. DEFINITELY A RANGE/COMPETITION GUN ONLY.

in our company pistols we just use our trigger kit (http://www.glockworx.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=46&category_id=1&manufacturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=33), titanium strikers and wolff reduced power striker spring. this combination seems to provide the lightest, smoothest trigger pull with the least travel out there.

[Judgemax]

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[GlockWORX]

Originally posted by Judgemax
Thanks for the info GW. Do you have a moe detailed px showing how the pre and over travel system works?

I tried the Ghost Rocket connecter and a good polishing job in my G-23 and was very impressed for a while. After a couple thousand rounds I determined that limiting overtravel didn't allow the firing pin safety actuator to lift the firing pin safety plunger high enough to prevent the firing pin from peening the hell out of the safety plunger. I got a couple of light strikes with no bang and went back to stock -- no more peening -- no more light primer strikes -- back to 100% reliability.

However I am curious to see how you guys work your "majic".
P.S. What do you sell your titanium striker for??

we dont have a more detailed pic but basically we do custom work to the trigger bar and to the ejector housing to reduce or eliminate the travel. the work we do to the ejector housing allows you to adjust hte amount of over travel yourself using a simple allen wrench which we include in the kit. as for the titanium striker, we sell those for $99.99 but they are currently on back order and should be in stock within a few days.

[Judgemax]

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[GlockWORX]

Our trigger kit is only $119.99 not $199.99 :supergrin:

[GlockWORX]

Originally posted by sidewinder6
OK, I ordered one.
:thumbsup:
shipped today

[sidewinder6]

Originally posted by GlockWORX
:thumbsup:
shipped today

Yup. And Received today. Thanks for the great turn around. I will work on this tonite. I look forward to shootin gthe new trigger.

[GlockWORX]

Originally posted by sidewinder6
Yup. And Received today. Thanks for the great turn around. I will work on this tonite. I look forward to shootin gthe new trigger.

please feel free to leave feedback as we are ALWAYS looking to improve our porducts.

:supergrin: ENJOY!!!

[Judgemax]

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[GlockWORX]

Originally posted by Judgemax
Please remember to let me know when you have a titanium striker available.

We'll let you know the moment they arrive

[MizuUsagi]

Had some doubts about this product, but would have to say, it is definitely worth it. Reduced pretravel and the pull is very smooth. This is in G35 w/ reduced striker spring and LWD 3.5 connector. Any way to add just a bit of crispness to this setup?

[Judgemax]

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[sidewinder6]

Originally posted by Judgemax
GlockWORX,
Sorry, I couldn't bear to wait to get your striker (from Lightning Strike?) so I called Lightning Strike directly and they said it would take a couple/few weeks to get, and then ship, their new batch of strikers, I called Brownells - out of stock, then Lone Wolf - also out of stock.
I found one at Lou's Gun Shop in Hialeah, FL and bought theirs. Now I hope I get your parts arrive soon - at $15 shipping I hope it was sent overnight.
If your III kit works as advertised, I can see more orders in my crystal ball.
Thanks again :teddy:

Lou's is a great store in a lousy location. They have some great people there to help you also. It is amazing to see the amount of business going on there. +1 on the store.

I am shooting my new Glockworx trigger today. The install went well and feels much better.

[GlockWORX]

Glad to hear the install went well. Enjoy! Please feel free to leave us any feedback, as we are always aiming to improve our products.

[sidewinder6]

Originally posted by GlockWORX
Glad to hear the install went well. Enjoy! Please feel free to leave us any feedback, as we are always aiming to improve our products.

Wow. I was very happy with my new trigger. I put 500 rounds through my G34 and my shot groups were half the size they were before the change at 25 yds. I was able to hold a group consistantly the size of my fist. And I fired the weapon without any lube today.

I have to teach myself to adapt to the trigger reset as I had one fast shot before my sights were back on the target but I am very happy with the way the gun is shooting.

BTW- I used the lite 2.5 spring. Very crisp and smooth.

Thanks.

[Judgemax]

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[GlockWORX]

Originally posted by Judgemax
YEEHAW! Received less than a week from telephone order, and already installed GlockWORX' III Trigger Set with Lightning Strikes' titanium firing pin in G-17.

SHORTSTROKE. Beautiful finish on all parts. Feels great in dry fire. We'll see............

nice to hear that you are pleased with your impressions thus far. please feel free to give us feedback once you have shot with our kit. ENJOY!!!:thumbsup:

[D4RWlN]

I wish I would have seen this thread earlier so I could have said something to help.

I bought a glockworx stgIII trigger set about a month ago. GlorkWorx is a friendly company with an awesome product.

Before I had an oem 3.5 connector, glockmiester trigger spring, and did .25 trigger job.

I believe my old trigger had probably close to the same trigger pull as my glorkworx but it was nowhere near as smoothe and crisp. Plus the over travel stop is awesome. The Glockworx trigger also pulls the slack out of the first pull and maintains use of the trigger safety. This thing is amazing and I'd recommend it to anyone. Everyone who's shot my g31 after this trigger have been amazed by how nice it is.

Glockworx,
Glad to see they went with your trigger and are happy(I doubt anyone could be unhappy with it)

[nanotech9]

am i the only one thats made my own connector? from scratch? as in from flat spring steel?


geez guys its not that hard.

50% less travel overall, including reduction in pre and over travel, quicker sharper and sooner trigger bar drop (from the custom connector), and somewhere around 3.5lbs, smooth as glass, no stacking, quick reset. About .5 - 1lb heavier than the Vanek in my buddies G35 but just as clean and shorter.

oh yeah - and all the original safeties are in place, functional, and no damage to any.


The only reason mine has a heavier pull is because i left the reduced power striker spring a little longer than the one in my buddies G35. His is cut down more than mine is... But my striker slides off the trigger bar sooner than his does so i dont want to reduce th power much more. Its 100% reliable right now over about 2000 rounds. I dont want to risk reliability for .5 or 1lb reduction in trigger weight.

plus, its still not to light of a trigger to carry. At least i dont feel so. I trust my work.

[J.P.]

Originally posted by nanotech9
am i the only one thats made my own connector? from scratch? as in from flat spring steel?


geez guys its not that hard.

50% less travel overall, including reduction in pre and over travel, quicker sharper and sooner trigger bar drop (from the custom connector), and somewhere around 3.5lbs, smooth as glass, no stacking, quick reset. About .5 - 1lb heavier than the Vanek in my buddies G35 but just as clean and shorter.

oh yeah - and all the original safeties are in place, functional, and no damage to any.


The only reason mine has a heavier pull is because i left the reduced power striker spring a little longer than the one in my buddies G35. His is cut down more than mine is... But my striker slides off the trigger bar sooner than his does so i dont want to reduce th power much more. Its 100% reliable right now over about 2000 rounds. I dont want to risk reliability for .5 or 1lb reduction in trigger weight.

plus, its still not to light of a trigger to carry. At least i dont feel so. I trust my work.

So...uh...when do I get a sample to review?

[Judgemax]

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[40 Lefty]

In answer to a question far above in this post, the skeletonized/fluted firing pin is documented in the article "Dremeling the Glock" about Dale Rhea and his Glock modifications. This is available at: http://www.sportshooter.com/gssf/dalerhea_dremeling.asp

I have done two of these firing pins for friend's pistols and have had good results. I don't like all of the plating dust in the air, as some unknown powdered metal is not too good in the lungs.

The weight reduction is around the 25-33% level (Per reloading scale).

The last trigger job I did had all Glock parts except for the Wolff competition spring pack, a skeletonized/fluted firing pin and heavy grinding and polishing via Duck of Death method on all contacting trigger surfaces. It was one of the best triggers I have done. Total parts cost $9.00 +Shiping.

The learning curve to get to this point included a number of scrap parts and a dozen or more full competition trigger jobs with about $100 in new parts for each pistol!

Research, plan, buy parts and practice.

Also, I personally like the Steel Lightning Strike Firing Pin.... Lighter, but still made from steel. Has the TN coating just like the Titanium part but less expensive.

Re Triggers: Take the number of parts in a Glock to the second power (Squared) and this will equal 1/10 of the opinions on trigger jobs.

[GlockWORX]

In response to the trigger spring. Whenever we have the wolff xp springs in stock we usually supply every kit with one as an alternative, the problem we found with the competition kit and the xp spring long term (on some guns) is too weak of a trigger return and after a couple thousand rounds it would even get stuck. So we opted for reliablitity and after putting it on the lyman digital trigger pull gauge and watching the difference from about 1lb 13oz to a solid 2-2lb 2 oz we decided to put the stock spring in the kit but give the option for the wolf spring. We are currently in development on our own trigger spring which should eliminate that issue and give an even smoother trigger pull with a faster reset.

As for the connector we tried various connectors from the ghost rocket to the normal ghost and on. The ghost rocket was winning the race until about 3k rounds through it on two different guns when the bar started slipping of the tab completely and the trigger wasnt engaging. As for the standard 3.5 vs the one we are currently using it just came down to the accessability of the product, the stock connectors are harder to find in quanity and from a performance perspective showed little difference. If you just make sure that the connector has a little grease or oil on it then it should be as smooth as a stock polished connector if not smoother. If anyone has any other options that might be better then please feel free to let us know and we will test it out. If the performance proves to be better and more reliable then what we are currently running then we will gladly implement the new changes and replace everyones old connectors. I hope that answers your questions...
Thanks
GlockWORX

[Judgemax]

:supergrin:

[GlockWORX]

Thanks for the nice words Max... Yeah the wolf xp trigger spring does stand for extra power but the way that the spring works is basically in reverse so an extra power trigger spring will give you a little smoother pull and reset is actually a little slower as to a stock spring which is a little longer and has less tension. Thats why we like to include both springs (as long as we have the wolff ones in stock we run out like crazy). Once our trigger spring is finished and we run 10k rounds through it then it will really be optimal and we will be sending one out to everyone that bought a kit so they can test them as well. As for the connectors we will most likely make our own once we are done with our new aluminum trigger setup.

[Judgemax]

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[Banger 19]

- I bought one of the trigger bars w/ the built in pre-travel for 80 bucks and just got it today. The site says " custom aluminum trigger with polished aluminum trigger bar" well mine came with a plastic serrated trigger. Is this right? Should'nt the trigger be aluminum?

[GlockWORX]

the aluminum tirgger and bar description was a typo on our website. we apologize for the error on our part and will happily give you a refund if you are unsatisfied with the product and wish to return it. The aluminum trigger and bar are currently undergoing development and will not be available for at least a couple more months as we are changing the geometric operation of the trigger.

[Judgemax]

:)

[GlockWORX]

we have yet to try that. we will be ordering and testing the NY #1 spring in our kits this week. stay tuned for our results.:banana:

[Judgemax]

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[GlockWORX]

The trigger spring hole on the trigger bar is positioned in a place that allows for a much lighter and smoother pull. We are currently in development of SF model trigger kits. They do differ from the other models because of the different size of the grip. As for our findings with the various trigger springs, we will post them all once our testing is done...

[GlockWORX]

We tested the NY1 with and without the metal coil. We found that boths way have drastically increased the weight of the trigger pull. Our average pull with out the coil was 4lb 5oz. Keep in mind this was installed on one of our Level 3 competition trigger kits (http://www.glockworx.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=46&category_id=1&manufacturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=33) that averaged 1lb 15oz using a stock Glock trigger spring. The reset was also extremely weak without the metal coil. With the metal coil in the NY1 we experience a very heavy trigger pull. significantly heavier than the stock Glock trigger setup. Still keep in mind this was all done with ourLevel 3 competition trigger kit. (http://www.glockworx.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=46&category_id=1&manufacturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=33) We have yet to do any experimenting on coil cutting and will post our experience as soon as we do.

Note: we have tested wolff trigger springs and found them to have a weak reset to when paired with reduced power firing pin springs. that is why our competition kits come with stock trigger springs.:banana:

[Judgemax]

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