Ordered a TP45

[ipscshooter]

I have been looking at the P45 and then found they had a new version. The TP45. I don't get it, but the new gun is cheaper than the one that's been around for a few years. I ordered the TP45 through my dealer. It's due tomorrow. I'll let you all know what I think when I wring it out.

[cbecker33]

Very nice! I'm anxious to see what you think.

-Chris

[ipscshooter]

I was hoping someone would pop up with there comments if they had one. Maybe no one has one yet. Guess I should have also ask that in my post. ;)

If UPS comes through, it should be here today. Maybe I can find the time to get out this weekend. I'll let you know how it shoots and handles.

[cbecker33]

Originally posted by ipscshooter
I was hoping someone would pop up with there comments if they had one. Maybe no one has one yet. Guess I should have also ask that in my post. ;)

If UPS comes through, it should be here today. Maybe I can find the time to get out this weekend. I'll let you know how it shoots and handles.

:thumbsup: My P45 is a fun to shoot...so take plenty of ammo.

-Chris

[VictorLouis]

First new gun I've bought in YEARS. I got on-line today and made sure I didn't get taken too bad, and I didn't. :)

I'm really enamored with the fact that it's just NOT that much larger than my TP9. The worst of it is in the butt; but, one-inch more in height really isn't a big deal.

I won't get to wring it out until Monday, and I'll chime in on it once more afterward.

[cbecker33]

Originally posted by VictorLouis

I'm really enamored with the fact that it's just NOT that much larger than my TP9. The worst of it is in the butt; but, one-inch more in height really isn't a big deal.



You could always cut it down and use a 6rnd mag from the P45.

-Chris

[VictorLouis]

That was my intent from the start. But, first I will carry it and shoot it that way for awhile, assuming it's otherwise good-to-go.

[ipscshooter]

ITS HERE!!!!....TP4543NOVAK.

My dealer called yesterday afternoon and I went over later and picked it up. Nice to have an FFL holder 1/2 mile from your house.

And now.........to end the suspense. For me and you, but mostly me. I was going to wait until the weekend or maybe next week, but I couldn't stand it. I took it to the range this morning after taking it apart and lubing it generously.

Flawless performance with PMC, Magtech, and Speer Lawman. Didn't like my reloads so much, so I ended up buying the Magtech at the range. I got about 100 rounds of my reloads through the gun , but pretty often one wouldn't chamber. I got disgusted and went and bought the Magtech. I was pretty sure it WAS NOT the gun, because I ran some PMC though it before I tried my reloads. Must be a tight chamber. I rechecked my reloads when I got home and the ones that wouldn't chamber drop into a guage. No reloads in the Kahr unless I set up may Case Pro for 45 instead of .40.

Back to the TP45. It shoots well. The sights were dead on. Takes some getting used to the trigger. No fast splits with this gun. The reset is pretty far out there compared to a Glock. But it fairly light and smooth both ways.

I had no problem with sharp checkering or getting bit by the slide stop. Occasionally you slam a mag in and the slide would go into battery,like a Glock. Depends on how hard you slam.

Ergonomically the grip is fantastic, Fits like a non OJ glove. The grip is about 7/8" longer than a G36. About the same as G17 grip. My little finger is about 3/16-1/4" above the bottom of the grip, but in the rear my hand is below the grip slightly. I think I can live with it for CCW.

The mag is so close to a 1911 it's funny. It's a little longer than a Wilson 8 rounder. Bet you all can see what's coming. Maybe 8-9 rounds. The pad doesn't stick out too far. Less than 1/4".

The gun has a short trigger reach, especially all the way back. Some may find they have to adjust how they normally place their trigger finger.

All together a very nice gun. Well made. Quality looks.

One little nit pick. I use a very high grip, thumbs forward. I rubbed a very small blister near the top thumb joint. Of course, in the normal scheme of things I won't be putting 350 rounds through the gun in one sitting. So no big deal.

That's about all I got. It gets cleaned tomorrow or the next and then I'll start carrying it.

[cbecker33]

Originally posted by ipscshooter
ITS HERE!!!!....TP4543NOVAK.

The mag is so close to a 1911 it's funny. It's a little longer than a Wilson 8 rounder. Bet you all can see what's coming. Maybe 8-9 rounds. The pad doesn't stick out too far. Less than 1/4".



I had the same thought with my P45....there has to be a way to cram one more round in it...so close!


Glad to hear you like it...if you detail strip it, I'd like to hear if you have the same troubles as I am having.


-Chris

[ipscshooter]

Thanks for the reminder.

I had one hell of a time getting the slide stop out. I hope it gets easier with time. What a PIA.

[Banger 19]

Hey ipscshooter

Could you post some pictures of the TP45? I am thinking of buying one and the only picture I can find is the one on the kahr website.
If you will, can you take a pic of your hand gripping the gun? just want to get an idea of the grip length. I was thinking if I didnt like the long grip I could have it chopped down to make it a tp45 covert. Cool.
:supergrin:

[firecop019]

Theres an article on it in the Guns & Weapons for Law Enforcement magazine if you want to see some more pics.

[ipscshooter]

Originally posted by Banger 19


Could you post some pictures of the TP45?

I was thinking if I didnt like the long grip I could have it chopped down to make it a tp45 covert. Cool.
:supergrin:

I'd like to help, but since I installed VISTA my digital camera doesn't work. Love that Bill Gates. :steamed:

The best I can do is give you some measurements. Also, re-read my post on the grip.

I measured it against a G17 and the grip is longer than the G17.

I will give you 2 measurements for each gun.

Kahr......TOP OF SLIDE TO BOTTOM EDGE OF GRIP IN FRONT = 5.25"
TOP OF SLIDE TO BOTTOM EDGE OF GRIP IN BACK = 5.075

GLOCK17...TOP OF SLIDE TO BOTTOM EDGE OF GRIP IN FRONT = 4.90
TOP OF SLIDE TO BOTTOM EDGE OF GRIP IN BACK = 4.90

You can see if the gun is parallel to the ground the Kahr grip angles a little, where the Glock is pretty much straight across.

I also had the concerns about concealment, but I came to the conclusion you did about "chopping" although I would be very surprised if Kahr doesn't come out with a covert version. I'm going to give it a chance 1st. Maybe try out a few holsters before I chop it.

I have to be honest. I carried it last night and I had to shift my holster around to about 2:30-3:00 to hide the butt. The holster I was using was a straight drop. By the time I got home I had shifted the holster into a more of FBI tilt and it was pretty good. Not ideal for that particular holster, but FBI cant may be the way to go with this piece as it is.

I tried a different holster when I got home that seemed better. A Galco USA tuck-able (I DON'T TUCK)but the gun rides low. I will try that next time. Whether anyone is successful hiding one of these things is really going to depend a lot on their build and what holster they chose...you know all the usual.

BTW, in one of my previous posts I had said the slide stop was a ***** to get out. The witness lines on the frame and slide aren't right, so the semi circle on the stop didn't match the slide. The 1st time I had it apart I just kind of moved the slide slightly back and forth until it lined up. Not a big deal once you realize it. You just look.

They need to have a bit more slop in the slide cut. The mark on the frame is kind of fat and depending which side of fat you line it up on it may be right or not. I guess they should be used as REFERENCE ONLY and not taken as exact. I predict a lot of folks who aren't too gun savvy are going to be calling Kahr. My P9 Covert is perfect. Line up the lines and pops right out. Once you over come the groove that the spring rides in.

John Browning don't have no stinkin lines on a 1911.:rofl:

[Banger 19]

Originally posted by ipscshooter
I'd like to help, but since I installed VISTA my digital camera doesn't work. Love that Bill Gates. :steamed:

The best I can do is give you some measurements. Also, re-read my post on the grip.

I measured it against a G17 and the grip is longer than the G17.

I will give you 2 measurements for each gun.

Kahr......TOP OF SLIDE TO BOTTOM EDGE OF GRIP IN FRONT = 5.25"
TOP OF SLIDE TO BOTTOM EDGE OF GRIP IN BACK = 5.075

GLOCK17...TOP OF SLIDE TO BOTTOM EDGE OF GRIP IN FRONT = 4.90
TOP OF SLIDE TO BOTTOM EDGE OF GRIP IN BACK = 4.90

You can see if the gun is parallel to the ground the Kahr grip angles a little, where the Glock is pretty much straight across.

I also had the concerns about concealment, but I came to the conclusion you did about "chopping" although I would be very surprised if Kahr doesn't come out with a covert version. I'm going to give it a chance 1st. Maybe try out a few holsters before I chop it.

I have to be honest. I carried it last night and I had to shift my holster around to about 2:30-3:00 to hide the butt. The holster I was using was a straight drop. By the time I got home I had shifted the holster into a more of FBI tilt and it was pretty good. Not ideal for that particular holster, but FBI cant may be the way to go with this piece as it is.

I tried a different holster when I got home that seemed better. A Galco USA tuck-able (I DON'T TUCK)but the gun rides low. I will try that next time. Whether anyone is successful hiding one of these things is really going to depend a lot on their build and what holster they chose...you know all the usual.

BTW, in one of my previous posts I had said the slide stop was a ***** to get out. The witness lines on the frame and slide aren't right, so the semi circle on the stop didn't match the slide. The 1st time I had it apart I just kind of moved the slide slightly back and forth until it lined up. Not a big deal once you realize it. You just look.

They need to have a bit more slop in the slide cut. The mark on the frame is kind of fat and depending which side of fat you line it up on it may be right or not. I guess they should be used as REFERENCE ONLY and not taken as exact. I predict a lot of folks who aren't too gun savvy are going to be calling Kahr. My P9 Covert is perfect. Line up the lines and pops right out. Once you over come the groove that the spring rides in.

John Browning don't have no stinkin lines on a 1911.:rofl:


Where you measuring from top of slide to bottom of magazine base pad on the kahr? glock too?

[ipscshooter]

Originally posted by Banger 19
Where you measuring from top of slide to bottom of magazine base pad on the kahr? glock too?

Re-read my post....

Kahr......TOP OF SLIDE TO [B]BOTTOM EDGE OF GRIP IN FRONT[B] = 5.25"
TOP OF SLIDE TO [B]BOTTOM EDGE OF GRIP IN BACK[B] = 5.075

GLOCK17...TOP OF SLIDE TO [B] BOTTOM EDGE OF GRIP IN FRONT[B] = 4.90
TOP OF SLIDE TO [B]BOTTOM EDGE OF GRIP IN BACK[B] = 4.90

EDIT....BOLD DIDN'T WORK.

TOP of slide....not to top of sights.

To the GRIP...NO magazine inserted.

[VictorLouis]

I went through a 100rd box of Win/USA ball, and I felt it getting a bit sluggish. No malfs, just a notable tendency in the slide return to not be as brisk. So, I went ahead and cleaned out all of the sludge. (Kahr heavily lubes the new guns, and I had not pre-cleaned it before my range trip.)

I also though the slide-stop was exceptionally FIRM. I lined-up the slide cut with the nub on the slide-stop, and let me tel you....there is NO slop here. You must line it up perfectly. I used the tongue of the mag baseplate to nudge it out past the tension of the spring leg where it rests in the groove on the pin. Then, I was able to JUST get hold of it and pull out with my thumb and index finger. It's FAR easier on the PM9!

Once cleaned, I lubed it sparingly with my Outer's Moly-grease, and it was cycling briskly once more. Speaking of PM9, I fired it repeatedly along side the new .45 in slow-fire, and double-taps. I had hoped for the recoil and muzzle flip to be similar. Recoil was fine. However, the muzzle flip on the .45 was more pronounced. I'd equate it closer to a LW Commander in feel vs. a G36.

After some more ball, I finished off with a few mags of the Win/USA JHP. It was hitting POA/POI for me at the 15yd. line. I was able to bench 5rds into 3.5" with the best three in 2". That's without a rest mind you, just elbows propped on the table. I ran a group of SilverTip through it also, and they printed to the right for me. Plus, I didn't note any lesser recoil benefit. So, I cleaned it once more and loaded-up with the 230gr fodder.

I carried it the remainder of yesterday and this morning. I can't see the butt printing when I check in the mirror. Plus, my inner forearm rests right against it when I'm standing normally. At least at this point, I'm probably going to leave it unchopped.

[ipscshooter]

Originally posted by VictorLouis
I lined-up the slide cut with the nub on the slide-stop, and let me tel you....there is NO slop here. You must line it up perfectly. ... It's FAR easier on the PM9!

I carried it the remainder of yesterday and this morning. I can't see the butt printing when I check in the mirror. Plus, my inner forearm rests right against it when I'm standing normally. At least at this point, I'm probably going to leave it unchopped.

Sounds like all went well.

My P9 Covert isn't as tough to get out either. Maybe in time.

What holster are you using? I'm using a GALCO USA IWB that was bought for my 36. The Kahr seems to fit pretty good.

[ipscshooter]

Originally posted by ipscshooter
Didn't like my reloads so much, ..Must be a tight chamber. I rechecked my reloads when I got home and the ones that wouldn't chamber drop into a guage.


Feel a bit funny quoting myself, but here goes.

It WAS my reloads. I load 45's a little long and the Kahr chamber is not cut real deep, so the bullet hangs up on the head spacing shoulder just before the rifling starts. Guess Kahr chambers them on the short side. Like I said worked fine with factory.

[vikz]

here is my tp45 4" and target at 15 yds using cci blazers..i have 200rds so far she is only 2days old and 200rds no hiccups..I have put a rubber grip yesterday .
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o175/vikz07/kahr005.jpg

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o175/vikz07/kahr001.jpg

[VictorLouis]

Originally posted by ipscshooter
What holster are you using?

This one (https://www.pagerpal.com/pant.asp). It hides the butt well enough just forward of the hip bone. Better if you decide to use your spare mag in the built-in pocket{I don't}. It's awkward there, but it works.

[ipscshooter]

Originally posted by VictorLouis
This one (https://www.pagerpal.com/pant.asp). It hides the butt well enough just forward of the hip bone. Better if you decide to use your spare mag in the built-in pocket{I don't}. It's awkward there, but it works.

I have 3 of those. One for my Colt Pony, one for P9 Covert, and a larger one that I forgot what it fits. Never thought of it for the P45. Maybe.....? ;)

[vikz]

went to the range and added more rounds to my tp45 this time i used JHP by hornandy and federal , this gun eat every thing and then i did another 50 rds of cci blazer i have 1 failure to eject the brass which i think is my fault but after ejecting it release the slide everything was fine again..here some pics , this target is using the JHP..

[vikz]

one more pic..all shot at 15yds weaver stances..cleaned her up now she can be my ccw permantly..reliable with jhp..accurate enough for me..

[ipscshooter]

Originally posted by vikz
went to the range and added more rounds to my tp45 this time i used JHP by hornandy and federal ,

Good deal. Seems a winner.

I bet your left handed. Me too. ;) :supergrin: :thumbsup:

[vikz]

Actually i am right handed i am not sure why i keep shooting that way, i do thesame thing with my 1911s sometimes..