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MileGlock
05-03-2007, 20:34
I dont think anyone who has guns checks on a daily basis to make sure that it (a gun) is there, said Jozwiak, whose office is in charge of issuing gun permits.


I think that this Sheriff is an irresponsible fool. I am opposed to the "one handgun-a-month rule", but being against a requirement to report a gun lost or stolen just doesn't make sense. If someone broke into my house, tampered with my safe, and stole several guns, I think I would know that it happened. This rule is propsosed to help us keep our right, not to restrict it.

Unless I am the only one who would miss one of my guns!!

This is not big brother knocking on the door...hell, I have my guns on my homeowners insurance policy, so I am sure going to report them if they are lost so I can get the money back to replace the gun!!

dirksterG30
05-04-2007, 04:07
Originally posted by MileGlock
I dont think anyone who has guns checks on a daily basis to make sure that it (a gun) is there, said Jozwiak, whose office is in charge of issuing gun permits.


I think that this Sheriff is an irresponsible fool. I am opposed to the "one handgun-a-month rule", but being against a requirement to report a gun lost or stolen just doesn't make sense. If someone broke into my house, tampered with my safe, and stole several guns, I think I would know that it happened. This rule is propsosed to help us keep our right, not to restrict it.

Unless I am the only one who would miss one of my guns!!

This is not big brother knocking on the door...hell, I have my guns on my homeowners insurance policy, so I am sure going to report them if they are lost so I can get the money back to replace the gun!!

A law that makes it a crime to not report a gun stolen or lost is ridiculous. Essentially, it makes the victim of a crime a criminal. Any responsible gun owner is going to report a theft or loss, so why do we need a law mandating this?

There's no reason for something like this, other than to harass law-abiding citizens.

Blitzer
05-04-2007, 06:57
Originally posted by MileGlock
I dont think anyone who has guns checks on a daily basis to make sure that it (a gun) is there, said Jozwiak, whose office is in charge of issuing gun permits.


I think that this Sheriff is an irresponsible fool. I am opposed to the "one handgun-a-month rule", but being against a requirement to report a gun lost or stolen just doesn't make sense. If someone broke into my house, tampered with my safe, and stole several guns, I think I would know that it happened. This rule is propsosed to help us keep our right, not to restrict it.

Unless I am the only one who would miss one of my guns!!

This is not big brother knocking on the door...hell, I have my guns on my homeowners insurance policy, so I am sure going to report them if they are lost so I can get the money back to replace the gun!!

Would you care to provide the entire article and/or link to said article for us to evaluate and discuss intelligently? ;)

MileGlock
05-04-2007, 21:58
Here is the link... http://www.readingeagle.com/article.aspx?id=26350

I would think that a person would want to report their gun stolen or lost in case it would be then used by the thief in the commission of a crime.

I for one would want a record of that fact to protect me from becoming a suspect in that crime.

I was also pointing out the flawed logic used by this sheriff...

"Jozwiak said such a law would punish honest, law-abiding gun owners who didnt realize that their guns were missing.

I dont think anyone who has guns checks on a daily basis to make sure that it (a gun) is there, said Jozwiak, whose office is in charge of issuing gun permits."

Unless you have hundreds of guns keeping tabs shouldn't be that hard... I spent too much money to let some fool run off with my guns!

I guess I can just see both sides. I wouldn't want my gun stolen, then used 3 weeks later to kill someone.

PennGlock
05-05-2007, 16:03
I can't tell if this is ignorance or just some advanced form of trolling.

Yes, the guy who lives in apartment with 1 or 2 handguns and carries every day is probably going to immediately notice if one of his guns goes missing. I grew up in a house with over 200 long guns, in safes, cabinets, and displays all over the house. To think people with large collections are going to take inventory of them every 30 days is absurd.

MileGlock
05-05-2007, 22:52
Wow, there are really some blind people on this site. I am not for restricting rights, but I am also not blind to logical reasoning. The slogans "no guns" and "from my cold, dead hand" are political extremes, and neither will get us anywhere on controlling the real problem, crime. Do you really think politicians care much beyond the lobbying money they get from the NRA or anti groups... these groups are the problem, and no real political change is going to come from either side. It is going to come from reasonable people making rational arguments... not groups of people that are just talking OVER one another!!

And another thing, if you are going to PM me and lecture me on the constitution you are barking up the wrong tree. It is kind of a hobby of mine.
Also, don't use lame analogies to prove your point... I am not a 2nd grader.

Additionally, attacking people who are on your side is a poor strategy to gaining allies. And I STILL maintain the fact that if you don't know if your house was broken into, how the hell are you going to defend it. If I had over 200 guns I would have a security system, and after the breach in that system was recorded, I would catalog my stuff to see what was missing. Not that hard of a thing to do, and a little pro-active thinking isn't always a bad thing... why is everyone afraid of a little extra effort on their part to ensure that their firearms are secure?

Well, I have said my piece, and people will probably be mad at me, but that just proves my point that on gun control, it is easier to talk over each other than to actually enact real change.

Edit: Most of my comments were directed toward a few who didn't want to engage in civil conversation.
Most of the people I see posting on this site are good people. Just to clarify.

Rylos1
05-06-2007, 14:16
I tend to see it differently than you, but we are each entitled to our opinion, which is what makes it a good conversation. I agree with you that if someone broke into my house, I would probably know it and catalog my weapons to know if any are missing. But, I don't agree with the government making it a law that I could go to jail if I didn't notice that one was missing. I wouldn't miss one, but jail time for not noticing? We don't need any more gun laws, period. What's next? Just my 2 cents.

MileGlock
05-06-2007, 14:50
I agree that we don't need more laws... and I certainly think that jail time is an excessive punishment. The main point I was trying to make was that keeping tabs on your weapons is a prudent thing to do. I certainly don't want a weapon of mine to fall into the wrong hands.

Rylos1
05-06-2007, 15:11
Then we are in total agreement!;)

Suburban
05-06-2007, 21:27
I'm with Jozwiak on opposing both laws. If somebody managed to pick the lock on my rifle locker, and then closed the door, I might not notice for weeks. If somebody picked the lock on Dad's gunlocker at Mom's house, and closed the door, it could be months before one of us notices that something's missing. I guess the odds are long, but it's possible.

As has been said, we don't need any more friggin' gun laws, particularly ones that really only apply to the law-abiding.

G10mm
05-19-2007, 16:39
Originally posted by Suburban
I'm with Jozwiak on opposing both laws. If somebody managed to pick the lock on my rifle locker, and then closed the door, I might not notice for weeks. If somebody picked the lock on Dad's gunlocker at Mom's house, and closed the door, it could be months before one of us notices that something's missing. I guess the odds are long, but it's possible.

As has been said, we don't need any more friggin' gun laws, particularly ones that really only apply to the law-abiding.
Couldn't have said it better my self . I know of one story were an kid took his dad's old shotgun and sold it. This gun wasn't shot in years and in the back of the closet with others .and the door to the closet had a lock on it . Dad didn't now the gun was missing until he went to oil it. And then he reported missing and that's when they found out were the gun came from and that it was used in a crime.You can't watch them all the and if there in a volt are you going to do invintory 4 or 5 time a day . I think not

Blitzer
05-19-2007, 22:12
Let us agree to disagree. In doing so may we all come to a conclusion that many things are deeply flawed in today's world and legislating them is not a valid answer. We are seeing deep spiritual and moral decay and it's long term out come.

Socialism dictates the state knows what is best for the masses and the individual and will intact or dictate, laws, rules, and even morals to that effect. I do not hold to the Communist/Socialist mind set.

Maybe I do use simple and trite home brew colloquialisms to describe my feelings. If I were to elaborate, in depth, my truest feeling would take volumes to accomplish and bore nearly everyone with the outcome.

:supergrin: :thumbsup: ;)