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Minuteman
06-14-2007, 18:58
Tommy Taylor busted as fake Ranger by real Rangers. Fake medals and service.

http://www.armyranger.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=34962

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The case of Tommy Taylor, Police Officer and small business owner in Weatherford Texas, is one that is particularly hard to digest. Not only was Tommy posing as a Ranger, he was profiting from it.

A Ranger serving as Federal Law Enforcement officer with the Border Patrol brought Tommy to our attention. Upon determining that Tommy never served a day in a Ranger unit, we then proceeded to verify that he had never graduated from Ranger School either. At this point our investigation really got underway.


This is the initial information posted on Tommy’s website that raised a red flag:

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h127/Minuteman_photos/screen01.jpg



http://www.weatherforddemocrat.com/archivesearch/local_story_145181943.html

Officer accused of misrepresentation retires from WPD

Christina Childs
cchilds@weatherforddemocrat.com

After 10 years of service with the Weatherford Police Department, officer Tommy Taylor announced his plans to retire.

Recently, Taylor has been surrounded by a whirlwind of controversy stemming from allegations of misrepresentation.

Taylor was accused of claiming a false service record and military awards on his Texas Tactical Web site by a group of former Army Rangers some months ago.

The Rangers sought disciplinary action and possible charges in accordance with the Stolen Valor Act of 2005.

After formal complaints were filed with the Weatherford Police Department, an internal investigation ensued. However, before Weatherford Police Chief Jerry Blaisdell rendered a final decision, Taylor submitted his retirement letter.

“Retirement was solely his decision,” Blaisdell said. “He was still in the appeal process when he turned in his retirement letter.

“When we have to do these type of reviews, no one looks forward to them, our goal is to be fair and objective with the process. His choosing to retire is his personal choice.”

Taylor, who owns the Weatherford-based Texas Tactical, said he plans to use his retirement to further other ventures.

“We got everything cleared up,” Taylor said. “I decided on retirement for two reason, one, to further my business, and two, having had to prove a lot of things, you start getting your priorities straight on what direction to take in life.”

Taylor added he plans to leave the force in November. He will be using the remainder of his vacation time between then and now, and will not return to the force on active duty before his set retirement date.

Taylor, who was vested through the Texas Municipal Retirement Service, will collect a pension after his departure from the law enforcement.

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thertel
06-14-2007, 20:05
Wow thats about 30 minutes north of me, Glad I never spent any money with that guy...i think the correct term is Piece of !@#$

hydrashok407
06-19-2007, 23:53
I'm afraid I'm the "piece of ****" to which the article is referring.

I'm not a special operations soldier or any of that other super high speed low drag stuff. I'm a computer programmer and web developer who went to work for Mr. Taylor. Before I started working for Mr. Taylor full-time in February, I re-developed the website for the business.

With various conversations I've had with Mr. Taylor, I reworded the bio that was on his website. I've been in his office where he has numerous military and civilian certificates hanging on his wall. With the impressive display, I thought his online bio was quite "inadequate", and still do.

I "beefed" up his bio a bit. I even wrote the email the Rangers have posted on their forums. I could go on and on about how I didn't (and to a great degree still don't) understand all the symantecs of who or what a "ranger" is or isn't.

I will give the simple facts about what happened.

I created a "demo" website that was not available on the web. I showed the erroneous bio to Mr. Taylor. Mr. Taylor specifically told me he was not a ranger or purple heart recipient. I made changes to his bio. The correct bio went up on the web. I made another change to that page when I added LTG Pitman's (Ret.) bio. I uploaded the entire page, which overwrote the corrected bio approved by him. Approximately two to three weeks later, I received a phone call from a ranger. When he asked me about his purple heart, I looked on the website and realized I had the wrong bio up. I corrected it in less than half an hour. All of this happened weeks before the first story was printed.

Reporting on this story by the democrat has been "loose" at best. Without going into too much detail (because believe me, there are a LOT of details), you can just start by figuring out that in all of the stories where my name was mentioned, it was incorrectly listed as "Jerry Gibson". For a story about claims on a website, my name is on at least two of those pages. I spelled out my name to the reporter, but even if I didn't, just how much "investigating" do you think she did for accuracy??

I will say, with a clear conscience, that if Mr. Taylor was guilty of even some of the things which he was accused, I would not only still be working for him, I would have probably beat him with a 2X4 or something and THEN walked out.

I'm still remorseful for posting Mr. Taylor's incorrect bio. I have attempted to publicly post my apology at www.armyranger.com but was never granted "posting" priviliges.

While not verbatum, this is, in general, the statement I gave to the reporter. In the first story it was never quoted, it was simply reduced to "Gibson confirmed Taylor’s claims of clerical errors."

Minuteman
06-20-2007, 00:35
Originally posted by hydrashok407
I'm afraid I'm the "piece of ****" to which the article is referring.

I'm not a special operations soldier or any of that other super high speed low drag stuff. I'm a computer programmer and web developer who went to work for Mr. Taylor. Before I started working for Mr. Taylor full-time in February, I re-developed the website for the business.

With various conversations I've had with Mr. Taylor, I reworded the bio that was on his website. I've been in his office where he has numerous military and civilian certificates hanging on his wall. With the impressive display, I thought his online bio was quite "inadequate", and still do.

I "beefed" up his bio a bit. I even wrote the email the Rangers have posted on their forums. I could go on and on about how I didn't (and to a great degree still don't) understand all the symantecs of who or what a "ranger" is or isn't.

I will give the simple facts about what happened.

I created a "demo" website that was not available on the web. I showed the erroneous bio to Mr. Taylor. Mr. Taylor specifically told me he was not a ranger or purple heart recipient. I made changes to his bio. The correct bio went up on the web. I made another change to that page when I added LTG Pitman's (Ret.) bio. I uploaded the entire page, which overwrote the corrected bio approved by him. Approximately two to three weeks later, I received a phone call from a ranger. When he asked me about his purple heart, I looked on the website and realized I had the wrong bio up. I corrected it in less than half an hour. All of this happened weeks before the first story was printed.

Reporting on this story by the democrat has been "loose" at best. Without going into too much detail (because believe me, there are a LOT of details), you can just start by figuring out that in all of the stories where my name was mentioned, it was incorrectly listed as "Jerry Gibson". For a story about claims on a website, my name is on at least two of those pages. I spelled out my name to the reporter, but even if I didn't, just how much "investigating" do you think she did for accuracy??

I will say, with a clear conscience, that if Mr. Taylor was guilty of even some of the things which he was accused, I would not only still be working for him, I would have probably beat him with a 2X4 or something and THEN walked out.

I'm still remorseful for posting Mr. Taylor's incorrect bio. I have attempted to publicly post my apology at www.armyranger.com but was never granted "posting" priviliges.

While not verbatum, this is, in general, the statement I gave to the reporter. In the first story it was never quoted, it was simply reduced to "Gibson confirmed Taylor’s claims of clerical errors."


You can try to blame the democrat but the army ranger trophy hunt room did the original investigation and it does not jive with your story...

As you can see, in the second screensave, Tommy even has the audacity to claim a Purple Heart (for wounds in combat). He also claims he was given an honorary lifetime membership to the United Nations Command Security Force. Apparently, they have no reservations about bestowing this honor on an E-4 with 4 years in the US Army. These two profile descriptions make it really difficult to believe Tommy’s assertions that the above bio was a typographical error on the part of his Operations Manager (as Tommy claimed). It should be noted that the first bio was written and posted on his website prior to the Operations Manager working for Texas Tactical. And apparently Tommy doesn’t proofread his own bio that’s going on his business website for accuracy. And apparently he fails to do this not only once, but twice. And then he leaves it up for several years. By claiming the valor earned by members of the 75th Ranger Regiment, he enriched himself at the expense of others -- the men who actually earned the honor and glory..

Following is correspondence that took place between Tommy and actual Rangers. In this particular case, Tommy claims to be a “Tab bearer, not a wearer”, which means he doesn’t just wear the Ranger tab on his uniform, but actually lives it. He also tells us that he graduated from Ranger School class #8713, which in fact, never existed:



Lucy... u' got sum splainin' to do...

http://www.worth1000.com/entries/231500/231785EKMJ_w.jpg

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Minuteman
06-20-2007, 01:41
Hello?

Fire and forget Fred?

You lose even more credibility by making claims that don't fit the current facts then running away.

The con continues...

???

(we will even debate you in stereo threads if you like)


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Minuteman
06-20-2007, 03:59
He also tells us that he graduated from Ranger School class #8713

"Lucy... U' got sum splainin' to do..."


"Ewwwwwwwwwwwwww!"


http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u22/xMooneyxOnex/I%20Love%20Lucy/lucy1.jpg

Minuteman
06-20-2007, 07:37
"He also tells us that he graduated from Ranger School class #8713"



???

hydrashok407
06-20-2007, 10:28
Originally posted by Minuteman
(we will even debate you in stereo threads if you like)


I didn't come here for a debate. I gave a brief explanation of the facts, and I apologized.

Again, I am sorry for the actual, or perceived, dishonor for all current and former rangers. I'm the one who sent that email, and I'm the one who posted that stuff to the website. I'm sorry I did it.

My credibility was shot down the moment I admitted my mistake. It would've been so much easier on me to take the easy way out and leave Tommy to be destroyed by you guys. What stopped me? Integrity. I know what I did, and I know what happened. While MY image greatly matters to me, it does not mean more to me than doing the right thing.

So, with my credibility shot to hell, I will still publicly and privately offer up my apology.

Minuteman
06-20-2007, 10:53
Originally posted by hydrashok407

my mistake

You mistakenly left it up for years?

Who LIED?
Who invented the class number?

Are you tommy? How do we know you are not a fictional character created to take the blame?
You say you were incorrectly called "Jerry Gibson", if that's wrong, then what is right? Who are YOU?
If your story is true, why didn't tommy fire you. Keeping you on makes it seem like all lies.
Still smells like more con artist B.S.


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Minuteman
06-20-2007, 11:06
More...

-Why does tommy wear a ranger tab on his hat in the photo?
-You claim you don't know what rangers are but someone in your company wrote...
"Tommy claims to be a “Tab bearer, not a wearer”, which means he doesn’t just wear the Ranger tab on his uniform, but actually lives it"?

-Why do people claim tommy told them stories of serving overseas as a ranger?

All of these combined with your anonymous posts here and all the previous evidence of lies adds up to a pile of lies.
Your company has made some outrageous claims of honors not won. Not once, but many times.
"My secretary made a "mistake" doesn't change that one bit. It sounds like more con artist bull.

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PhuzzyGnu
06-20-2007, 11:13
http://gallery.armyranger.com/albums/TomTaylor/photo01.jpg

It's all a mistake. A misunderstanding.

Yeah right. Why's he wearing the hat?

-p.

Minuteman
06-20-2007, 12:02
BTW,

Tommy is also listed as a poser at http://www.pownetwork.org/

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Minuteman
06-20-2007, 18:08
:bump:

Minuteman
06-20-2007, 18:11
Originally posted by hydrashok407
I didn't come here for a debate. I gave a brief explanation of the facts, and I apologized.

Again, I am sorry for the actual, or perceived, dishonor for all current and former rangers. I'm the one who sent that email, and I'm the one who posted that stuff to the website. I'm sorry I did it.

My credibility was shot down the moment I admitted my mistake. It would've been so much easier on me to take the easy way out and leave Tommy to be destroyed by you guys. What stopped me? Integrity. I know what I did, and I know what happened. While MY image greatly matters to me, it does not mean more to me than doing the right thing.

So, with my credibility shot to hell, I will still publicly and privately offer up my apology.

Minuteman
06-22-2007, 00:19
Originally posted by PhuzzyGnu
http://gallery.armyranger.com/albums/TomTaylor/photo01.jpg

It's all a mistake. A misunderstanding.

Yeah right. Why's he wearing the hat?

-p.


http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w263/pinkfloydfreak88/owned.jpg

PeterJasonMN
07-01-2007, 02:44
"Operation GOLDEN RETRIEVER"??????

Blitzer
07-01-2007, 05:01
Originally posted by Minuteman
You mistakenly left it up for years?

Who LIED?
Who invented the class number?

Are you tommy? How do we know you are not a fictional character created to take the blame?
You say you were incorrectly called "Jerry Gibson", if that's wrong, then what is right? Who are YOU?
If your story is true, why didn't tommy fire you. Keeping you on makes it seem like all lies.
Still smells like more con artist B.S.


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My thoughts exactly! :thumbsup:

hydrashok407
07-02-2007, 15:04
Are you tommy? How do we know you are not a fictional character created to take the blame?No, I'm not Tommy. I'm not a fictional character that registered here in May 2002.
You say you were incorrectly called "Jerry Gibson", if that's wrong, then what is right? Who are YOU?I'm sorry, I thought I already posted who I was. I'm Jerry Goodson. It's on the company website. Who are YOU? Are you a ranger?If your story is true, why didn't tommy fire you. Keeping you on makes it seem like all lies. Not only did Tommy not fire me, he also did not accept my resignation. So, what if he'd fired me? "Oh, he just used him as a scape goat." And if I'd quit? Tommy would STILL be uncredible and I'd be jobless.

In ANY case, the mistake was still made, and my quitting or getting fired wouldn't have changed that.

The "many claims of honor" were only two: "Airborne Ranger" and "Purple Heart". They were on the web for 2-3 weeks. When they were brought to our attention, I IMMEDIATELY removed them.

I read in another post where a speaker is commonly "introduced as something much more than he is." That's what I did... I introduced Tommy as something more than he is. I'm sorry.

...I wished I'd put that in my own bio, at least y'alls efforts would be focused more accurately. Of course, I didn't INTENTIONALLY put that up about Tommy, so it'd have not happened with my own... I know my history better than I knew Tommy's when I wrote that.

ranger88
07-07-2007, 19:06
Well, as a guy who did graduate from Ranger School and is registered on armyranger.com - I say "Bull@*#+" You can make all of the excuses that you like for this poser, but it was his business that you were promoting and it was his responsibility to proofread what you were posting online. Weak. Just plain weak.

chadb1019
07-12-2007, 21:07
whoop that mo-fo's (*&^%

RebelCavMedic
07-13-2007, 22:13
Well all I have to say is a picture is worth a thousand words. And there it is in color and twice. A cap with a Ranger tab. That makes me think that his apparent press secretary is not well informed..

Minuteman
07-14-2007, 13:56
Originally posted by hydrashok407
No, I'm not Tommy. I'm not a fictional character that registered here in May 2002.
I'm sorry, I thought I already posted who I was. I'm Jerry Goodson. It's on the company website. Who are YOU? Are you a ranger? Not only did Tommy not fire me, he also did not accept my resignation. So, what if he'd fired me? "Oh, he just used him as a scape goat." And if I'd quit? Tommy would STILL be uncredible and I'd be jobless.

In ANY case, the mistake was still made, and my quitting or getting fired wouldn't have changed that.

The "many claims of honor" were only two: "Airborne Ranger" and "Purple Heart". They were on the web for 2-3 weeks. When they were brought to our attention, I IMMEDIATELY removed them.

I read in another post where a speaker is commonly "introduced as something much more than he is." That's what I did... I introduced Tommy as something more than he is. I'm sorry.

...I wished I'd put that in my own bio, at least y'alls efforts would be focused more accurately. Of course, I didn't INTENTIONALLY put that up about Tommy, so it'd have not happened with my own... I know my history better than I knew Tommy's when I wrote that.


I think it's pretty disgusting that you come here to continue your con on us. No one is buying what your selling. Your a con man.

You still claim a "mistake". Rangers say the website and tommy have made ranger claims before you were hired. You don't address that.
Tommy has been photo'ed in a ranger hat. Others have claimed Tommy told them of overseas service and Ranger lies.
You told rangers tommy was a ranger and a fake class number.
Read the title of this thread. It's three stolen honors, not counting the UN officer lies, that's just stupid.

Your new excuses sound like your newest lies cooked up in your office to dismiss this as a non-issue. No one is buying it. I have yet to read where you or tommy has admitting to LYING and INVENTING FALSE histories and fake class numbers, not once but repeatedly to many people over a period of years in person and on two different web pages. Not just on a "mistaken" web page for a few weeks.

Your con men and liars. You kept claiming ranger lies even after you got busted. Now your spinning a new tale to cover your ass. Not buying it for a second.

Rangers website says Tommy has been claiming to be a ranger for years. I believe them, not you.

Quit your con job. It's disgracefull and disrespectfull of those who did serve and earn those honors.

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Glockdude1
07-14-2007, 14:03
http://bestsmileys.com/dead/2.gif

Minuteman
07-14-2007, 14:08
"As you can see, in the second screensave, Tommy even has the audacity to claim a Purple Heart (for wounds in combat). He also claims he was given an honorary lifetime membership to the United Nations Command Security Force. Apparently, they have no reservations about bestowing this honor on an E-4 with 4 years in the US Army. These two profile descriptions make it really difficult to believe Tommy’s assertions that the above bio was a typographical error on the part of his Operations Manager (as Tommy claimed). It should be noted that the first bio was written and posted on his website prior to the Operations Manager working for Texas Tactical. And apparently Tommy doesn’t proofread his own bio that’s going on his business website for accuracy. And apparently he fails to do this not only once, but twice. And then he leaves it up for several years. By claiming the valor earned by members of the 75th Ranger Regiment, he enriched himself at the expense of others -- the men who actually earned the honor and glory..

Following is correspondence that took place between Tommy and actual Rangers. In this particular case, Tommy claims to be a “Tab bearer, not a wearer”, which means he doesn’t just wear the Ranger tab on his uniform, but actually lives it. He also tells us that he graduated from Ranger School class #8713, which in fact, never existed:
"

http://www.armyranger.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=34962

Minuteman
07-15-2007, 16:13
Tommy Taylor fake ranger and con man.

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f345/SunBurnedPenguin/MY%20ICONS/DT-ConManVariation.jpg

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Minuteman
07-16-2007, 13:43
Char·la·tan (shärl-tn)
n.

A person fraudulently claiming knowledge and skills not possessed.

A flamboyant deceiver; one who attracts customers with tricks

A person who makes elaborate, fraudulent, and often voluble claims to skill or knowledge; a quack or fraud.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=charlatan

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Minuteman
07-24-2007, 15:12
:tongueout:

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