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Hey guys I have a few questions about some G19 mods. This will be a conceal carry self defense weapon/range target gun. I was wondering what you guys think about the following mods and the reasons why I am getting them:
1. Lone Wolf standard sized barrel (I saw one in person and love the way it works, also understand it is equally reliable to the glock barrel and just as if not more accurate. Also will be using the glock barrel for my lead reloads)
2. Seattle slug ( Confirmed by someone who OWNS one on this board it does help with balance and what not, also helps with reloading)
3. TruGlo TFO front and rear sights (pretty good from what every one tells me and also helps my whole cross eye dominant situation)
4. Stainless Steel guide rod and recoil spring, would like a one piece unit (I understand many say this is useless but all that aside if one was to purchase and use one a carry gun I want a one piece, extremely reliable one)
I need some recommendations on the SS guide rod and opinions on the other pieces I plan on installing. I have already spent money on training and ammo. All thats left now is a few extra magazines which will be on order with these and a good IWB holster for CCW and also a decent open carry holster and belt for the range and hiking.
GlocksterJeff
06-18-2007, 03:44
In numerical order:
1. Lone wolf makes a fine barrel. Use it for your lead reloads, not the factory barrel. Use whichever you like on the range, but do keep the stock barrel for CCW use. It is by far the most reliable choice.
2. Seattle Slugs are fine products - on a competition gun. (Should have made that clearer in my previous post - my mistake; I'm sorry.) If you ever need to rip out a jammed in place magazine while your life depends on it, you will need access to that hole in the back of the grip. Otherwise, there is no room for your thumb on the grasping ridge at the back of the magazine. By the way, that brass slug weighs 3-3.5 ounces. This is too much weight towards the rear of the short barreled G19. Besides, the less weight dragging down your belt the better. If you want a heavy carry gun, perhaps get something with a steel frame. The beauty of Glocks for CCW is their light weight.
3. The TFO is a good sight choice.
4. Most all captured stainless steel guide rods work ok. I would recommend using the stock weight spring (18#). Personally, I have never had a problem with the stock plastic rod. However, some folks have broken theirs by not inserting them into the correct notch of the barrel during assembly.
You can use Glock pistols for either serious self defense or for target shooting games. Many of the aftermarket bells and whistles are great fun and can give a competitive advantage on the range. The thing is, leave them there. Save until you can afford a second Glock, then load it up with all the shiny doodads. Keep your CCW gun as stock as you can.
Don At PC
06-18-2007, 06:44
GlocksterJeff is providing you with some good advice. Other than sights that work best for you a total STOCK 19 would be the optimum for defesce. Some of the others Might????? help in competition shooting but in most cases NOT. The ONLY Glock that I have modified (other than sights) is my Unlimited Competition Glock. I have used the Seattle Slug and although it has its niche in some areas it is a waiste on this size of gun. I do use a Tungsten or SS guide rod and different weight spring but ONLY in my Unlimited Competition Glock. The stock plastic guide rod and recoil spring assembly has produced zero problems in my other Glocks. Altogether well over 100,000 rounds so don't get caught up in the "This is a cool mod syndrome". But then again it's your money and your gun so spend it like you want. I am only telling you like it is because I have been there and done that but it's your choice.
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anyplainjoe
06-18-2007, 14:08
For a carry gun, I'd only upgrade the sights. Keep everything else stock on the street.
Lone Wolf barrels are real good, but for the street I'd keep everything stock. Most gunfights are with 15 feet, so any slight benefit of more accuracy won't be realized.
I suggest very few changes. I've owned a G19 since December 1996 and have over 60,000 rounds on it through practice and IDPA, USPSA and GSSf Competition. It is stock, and has been stock since day one, except for:
1. Ameriglo Combat Sights
2. Smooth G17 trigger
3. Factory 3.5# connector
4. Decal Grip, sandpaper finish.
Invest the rest of your money in practice ammo, a decent belt, a couple of decent holsters and a magazine carrier. If money is no object, a pair of premium electronic hearing protection, like Pro Ears, is great for home defense as well as the range.
Glockwork Orange
06-18-2007, 16:21
Aside from some night sights, keep it stock bro! You'll have an easier time legally if, God forbid, you have to use it in a self defense scenario...All my firearms are stock, except for nightsights...
Thanks for the advice guys. I have to ask about two mods now.
1. The grip- I have seen pics of glocks that have a really gritty grip that looks almost like a finish on the grip area.
2. Truglo TFO sights- I like these but I have heard the front sight can sometimes come loose and spin around. Any one know how to avoid this ? Also is the glock 17 Truglo TFO sights on LWD's site the correct parts for the Glock 19 ?
Thanks for all the helpful advice. I have decided not to go with the seattle slug or an after market rod/spring set. Thanks.
TheStreetKing
06-18-2007, 20:14
Originally posted by og556
Hey guys I have a few questions about some G19 mods. This will be a conceal carry self defense weapon/range target gun. I was wondering what you guys think about the following mods and the reasons why I am getting them:
1. Lone Wolf standard sized barrel (I saw one in person and love the way it works, also understand it is equally reliable to the glock barrel and just as if not more accurate. Also will be using the glock barrel for my lead reloads)
2. Seattle slug ( Confirmed by someone who OWNS one on this board it does help with balance and what not, also helps with reloading)
3. TruGlo TFO front and rear sights (pretty good from what every one tells me and also helps my whole cross eye dominant situation)
4. Stainless Steel guide rod and recoil spring, would like a one piece unit (I understand many say this is useless but all that aside if one was to purchase and use one a carry gun I want a one piece, extremely reliable one)
I need some recommendations on the SS guide rod and opinions on the other pieces I plan on installing. I have already spent money on training and ammo. All thats left now is a few extra magazines which will be on order with these and a good IWB holster for CCW and also a decent open carry holster and belt for the range and hiking.
1: Whats the point of an aftermarket barrel, Other than to shoot lead loads. A aftermarket barrel on a carry gun is pointless to me.
2: Never saw the need for one, I like the open backstrap because it helps me strip stubborn mags easier.
3:Night Sights are a must for a Carry Gun, Considering the chances of you getting Mugged,Carjacked,Assaulted at night is higher than during the day, Criminals love the cover of dark for their dirty work!
4: If the stainless guide rods were soo reliable and the stock plastic guide rods were not, Then how comes every officers duty weapon is stock except for maybe the sights. There's probably 70% of the U.S LEO Agencies that use stock Glocks just fine. Then you have to add in the fact of how much more likely a cop is going to be in a shootout compared to you? Stock is absolutely perfect and 100% Reliable! Save your money dude, And buy more ammo!
About ther barrel... well how would a Lone Wolf standard size barrel hurt the performance of the gun ? I plan on running a couple thousand more rounds through this barrel just to see if it can hold up. I understand any other internal mods would really not help all that much and I plan on keeping all other internals stock now.
GlocksterJeff
06-18-2007, 22:54
As far as I know, every aftermarket barrel maker uses a tighter chamber than that of the factory barrel. There are lots of reasons given: increased accuracy, less working of the brass for reloading, increased chamber support... All are good reasons in themselves, however the end result is a barrel that is not as reliable. Your Glock is famous for it's ability to work under adverse conditions - a lot of this reputation is due to the loosely chambered factory barrel.
Thanks for that explanation that makes sense.
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