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Bitmap
06-24-2007, 22:47
I was with my dad loading up the truck to go do some shooting this weekend. When I picked up a target holder I saw a little critter on the holder that made me suspicious but I couldn't shake him off so I finished loading and we went. When we started unloading at the range I saw the little bastard again and we took some closeups of him to try and identify for sure. When we finished taking pics I tried to smash the little monster but he ran and jumped off the tailgate and disappeared in the grass so this little murderer is still out there somewhere. What really bothers me is that this is the second one of these I've seen this spring.

I normally like spiders and think they are kind of neat to watch, but a brown recluse is no joking matter.

Pics of the monster in my target holder. I played with the contrast to bring out some of the details better.


http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q241/Bitmaps_photos/recluse/spider-1.jpg

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q241/Bitmaps_photos/recluse/spider-2.jpg

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q241/Bitmaps_photos/recluse/spider-3.jpg

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q241/Bitmaps_photos/recluse/spider-4.jpg

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q241/Bitmaps_photos/recluse/spider-5.jpg

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q241/Bitmaps_photos/recluse/spider-6.jpg

I compared the little spider I saw with pics from this website. (http://dermatology.cdlib.org/DOJvol5num2/special/recluse.html)

Here are a few pics of confirmed recluses for comparison.

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q241/Bitmaps_photos/recluse/recluse3.jpg

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q241/Bitmaps_photos/recluse/recluse2.jpg

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q241/Bitmaps_photos/recluse/recluse1.jpg

It looks to me like the spider I found has 3 pairs of eyes and it's got those long things near it's mouth.

I'm convinced that was a brown recluse.

I'm also convinced I don't have nearly enough bug poison around my house.

JohnKSa
06-24-2007, 23:01
Your identification is correct.

Brown recluses tend to "play dead" when first discovered but are very fast when the finally decide to move--even when their complement of legs is reduced. ;) Still, they'll always try to get away if they can (as opposed to bite.)

The brown recluse bite is very rarely fatal--the problem with these bites is that they are often not treated properly and can lead to bad infections and a large amount of tissue necrosis. If you get bitten, don't panic. Kill the spider (try not to damage it excessively--it needs to be identifiable) and put it in a baggie to take with you to the hospital to prove what bit you. Don't rush or get careless, there's not a big hurry. The "venom" isn't a poison in the conventional sense, but rather a very effective digestive enzyme.

sdsnet
06-24-2007, 23:37
My stepson was bitten by one on the finger and got a real nasty infection from it. Now about every six months he gets an infection somewhere on his body that is so bad he has to go have it lanced and drained at the ER. The docs say he has some sort of blood infection but they can't be for sure. They treat him with strong antibiotics each time it happens. They are some very nasty critters.

Keoking
06-30-2007, 09:15
At the range I frequent there are always butterflies floating around and landing on the targets. I feel bad about it, but I can't help myself from blasting them out of existence with my G21L. I wait until they close their wings, so at least I am sporting about it.

You're probably saying that butterflies aren't as dangerous as the brown recluse spider, but I don't know a whole lot about these butterflies, so I'm just being careful.

Braden
07-05-2007, 14:32
Originally posted by Bitmap
...and it's got those long things near it's mouth.

If I'm not mistaken, those are FANGS.

The "fiddle" on the back is a dead giveaway for the Brown Recluse. Nasty little spiders. Do a Google search for "brown recluse bite" and you'll see just what kind of damage they can do if not treated properly. Just be ready for some pretty GRAPHIC pictures.

http://www.brown-recluse.com/images/br7mid.jpg

JohnKSa
07-08-2007, 20:19
The things near the mouth are pedipalps, they are an aid in eating and used by the male spider during mating.

BattletweeteR
08-04-2007, 10:45
i have killed those types of spiders quite a few times, never realized that those where the brown recluse spiders.

know what to look for now.

Braden
08-10-2007, 21:16
Not to be confused with the Wolf Spider...which is pretty scary looking but beneficial to have around.

http://www.timart.be/Npaginas/foto/wolf_spider.jpg

http://www.hr-rna.com/RNA/images/Spiders/Garage%20Wolf%20rez.jpg

txgho1911
08-23-2007, 17:46
Found some Texas specific info here.
http://members.tripod.com/~LouCaru/index-13.html
And the most verbose description of what is in that stuff is here.
http://www.o-wm.com/article/3823
The venom of the brown recluse spider is a complex substance. Various purification techniques have identified subcomponents, including proteases, alkaline phosphatase activity, lipase activity, sphingomyelinase-D, hyaluronidase activity, and others.10 Sphingomyelinase-D has been identified as the primary toxin affecting the endothelial cells, red blood cells, and platelets. The pathological sequence includes the aggregation of platelets, endothelial swelling, and destruction; these events plug capillaries with white cells, which, in turn, causes ischemia and necrosis. Therefore, the most convincing subcomponent of the brown recluse Spiderís venom associated with necrosis of the fat and skin appears to be sphingomyelinase-D.11

I understand the area affected is more severe when circulation is inhibited and less severe if you treat with heat and blood thinners and there is an article somewhere calling for a cardiac treating nitroglycerin pill wet andpasted around the affected area. All this to maintain blood circulation to reduce the mass of tissue that dies.
I see the treatment of ice pack mentioned many times and others that discourage this.