H & K P7PSP ????? Good investment?

[moreammoplz]

I have been thinking of picking up a P7 since I have always wanted a squeeze cocker HK. But why is there a big price difference with the different models? I see there are several shops offering P7's for around $700 - $800 and then I see the P7M13 for around $1,800??

Would you expect a grade B at $700 to double in value in say 5 years or so?


This is the one I was looking to get since I can go to the shop and look at one.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/50093 (http://)

[romperstomper]

No, I would not expect a PSP to double in value in 5 years.

In fact, PSPs might actually drop in value if every few years HK makes a production run of M8s and imports police trade ins.

Guns are a poor investment. Buy one only if you want to shoot/carry one.

[UrbanCowboy]

Originally posted by romperstomper
No, I would not expect a PSP to double in value in 5 years.

In fact, PSPs might actually drop in value if every few years HK makes a production run of M8s and imports police trade ins.

Guns are a poor investment. Buy one only if you want to shoot/carry one. I doubt that H&K will make the P7M8 again since they made the last 500 numbered with a Certificate of Authenticity saying that those would be the last 500 manufactured.

[duncan]

The P7 is a great gun.

Buy a PSP and carry and shoot.

Buy the P7M10 or P7M13 as a safe gun.

But I shoot my PSPs.

[blueiron]

The P7/PSP is a nice pistol that until recently, had more value than now. Prices dropped since the German government sold off a number of them and they were imported. They aren't really an investment.

The P7M10 is a rarity and I didn't like it one bit. The upengineered slide made it awkward and it lost the aesthetics and handling of the original. An unfired one is worth money, IF never shot.

The P7M13 is a bit difficult to find. The increased width of the twin stack magazine detracts from the handling of the original, but it does offer more rounds. If you like Para Ordnance double stack M1911s, you'll love this one.

Overall and for my money, the original is the best.

[Thick45]

Personally, mine is to SHOOT, and I'm hoping to acquire another one.....also as a shooter. That's not to say that they won't appreciate over the next few years, but if you wish to purchase a firearm as an investment, there are other options.

If I were out to buy a gun as an investment, then I would be thinking in terms of Colt Single Actions, Lugers, Smith & Wesson Number 3s, etc.....

I DO want a Luger, but I want one to shoot.....so the amount I would pay for it would be limited, or preferably, I would do a trade, and I would get something where the historical value has been diminished somewhat....usually mixed numbers, refinish, etc.

As an investment, I would want something unaltered with original finish....

[Tony_aaa]

Originally posted by UrbanCowboy
I doubt that H&K will make the P7M8 again since they made the last 500 numbered with a Certificate of Authenticity saying that those would be the last 500 manufactured.

HK has released P7s with serial #s higher than the "last 500." So much for those being the last ones. I'm a little pissed as I bought one of those "last 500" ones myself.

http://www.parkcitiestactical.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=10;t=011895;p=1

[dusty78]

$700 for a grade b? i got an unfired grade A from cdnn for $686 shipped. Its by far my most accurate and well made gun.

[taxmann2]

CDNN now has grade b guns at 599.

[UrbanCowboy]

Originally posted by Tony_aaa
HK has released P7s with serial #s higher than the "last 500." So much for those being the last ones. I'm a little pissed as I bought one of those "last 500" ones myself.

http://www.parkcitiestactical.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=10;t=011895;p=1 I read about the latest ones that weremade after I posted and I am more than a little pissed about it. :steamed:

[TRMN8R]

Well, the bottom line is, if you ever wanted a P7, now is the time to buy one, as the trade-ins are still relatively easy to come by, and OnPoint just got in about 1,200 more grade B's. Many have complained about the price in the past for these amazing pieces of engineering, but the time's right for a killer deal. Although far from common, I've a seen a couple of grade C's that were in even better condition than the grade B's I've picked up, and every single grade A I've come across was in practically NIB condition. For die-hard P7 afficianados (even if you don't actually own one), this in-rush of PSP's was a deal of a lifetime.

As to the OP's original question, P7's in general aren't a "bad" investment, but certainly not a 401K plan, either. Unfortunately, those days are long gone.

However, if you're ever fortunate enough to come across a "good" (or better yet, "great") deal on a KH (1997) P7/PSP, a factory nickeled M8/M13, a NIB blued M10, or an honest-to-God no bull***** holy grail original PSP, then you can look forward to some true investment potential.

Just my .02, TRM