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Just got a new G36. Had the Glockmeister put SS guide rod, and extended slide stop lever on it (not sure if this is the source of problem or not).
Right out of the gate, having two different problems:
(1) slide locking back with rounds still in the magazine
Initially thought I might be hitting the extended slide stop with my thumb, but have isolated and eliminated this possibility by completely moving my thumb while shooting. Slide will sometimes also not release (with no mag) even when I pull back and release slide. Have had GM look at it again, but problem still there.
(2) Gun also not ejecting spent brass from time to time. This seems unrelated to #1 above. Not limp-wristing, and have never had that problem before.
Any troubleshooting inputs appreciated.
I have no expertise, but all I keep hearing is "keep it stock!"
Originally posted by rd4man
I have no expertise, but all I keep hearing is "keep it stock!"
words of wisdom
krankher
07-04-2007, 14:08
I'm no expert either, but in my reading on the 36 I've seen several posts with the same issues after installing extended slide stop. Problem fixed by removing it.
If it were mine, I would take it back to stock and start there.
ipscshooter
07-04-2007, 17:44
If the extended slide stop/release is aftermarket that may be your answer.
Ejection could be the spring on the guide rod. Too strong or possibly too weak. My guess is too strong. It may get better as the spring settles in, but in my mind it would be marginal, at best for reliability.
Make the gun stock again and see if the problems persist. Then if you wish add the parts back one at a time to see what's causing the problem.
My advice, especially if the gun is for carry. Leave it stock. Mine is, and works flawlessly.
The only time a Glock has ever let me down was after I screwed with it.;)
denfoote
07-04-2007, 18:49
The only time a Glock has ever let me down was after I screwed with it.
These are words of wisdom!!
The G36, even more so than the other Glocks, is sensitive to timing!!
The stock springs have been weighted to achieve optimal timing.
I read somewhere that the original problems the G36 was having were releated to spring timing!!!
Take it back to stock!!!
denfoote
07-04-2007, 18:49
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Many thanks for the inputs. Seems to be a clear consensus. I generally do not modify my guns (Glocks or otherwise) other than NS, grips, etc. But in this case I got comfortable given that they were pretty basic mods, and the GM has a good reputation for knowing what he's doing and claims to use only genuine Glock parts.
BACK TO STOCK SHE GOES. Thanks again for the feedback.
ipscshooter
07-05-2007, 17:24
I thought about my earlier post and perhaps I was a bit flippant on the slide stop issue. Sorry.
I am amazed GM wasn't willing or able to suggest going back to stock. Of course, he sold you the parts.
On further thought. Part of the problem with the slide stop could be ammo related.
It could be the ogive of the bullet hitting the stop and forcing it up. If you load up a mag and then rack one into the chamber, then remove the mag you will see that the next cartridge had moved forward somewhat. This is common and is due to friction with the round that was stripped by the pick up rail. Sometimes if the round is loaded long or the bullet shape is just right it can hit the stop. If you do the above and then clear the chamber and remove the top end you will be able to insert the mag and watch the interaction with the stop. It may hit or come very close. It may even do this with the stock stop.
There are several options for fixing this. The 1st choice would be to change ammo. Another is load up the mags and let them sit or load and unload many times (shooting or otherwise) to loosen the mag spring a bit. Lastly, carefully modify the stop to remove the corner that is hitting the round. There may be more, but none comes to mind right now.
Good luck. :thumbsup:
IPSC--
No apologies necessary-- appreciate the thoughtful inputs. And to make sure I don't unfairly tag GM, he did adjust the slide stop lever when I took it back. And while he didn't suggest going back to stock then, he certainly said to bring her back if that didn't fix it. I'm optimistic he'll do the right thing if/when it comes to it. In the meantime, I've put the stock guide rod back in, and plan to try it out at the range today. Thanks again for the help.
Originally posted by JCA
Many thanks for the inputs. Seems to be a clear consensus. I generally do not modify my guns (Glocks or otherwise) other than NS, grips, etc. But in this case I got comfortable given that they were pretty basic mods, and the GM has a good reputation for knowing what he's doing and claims to use only genuine Glock parts.
BACK TO STOCK SHE GOES. Thanks again for the feedback.
A stainless steel guide rod and extended slide stop lever are not Glock Factory Parts for the G36.
Glock does not make an extended slide stop lever for the G36.
I've read around here where others have modified the Glock factory extended slide stop levers to fit the G36.
I put night sights on my G36, that is the only
That Glockmeister guy really drives me nuts. Seems no Glock is good enough to him unless it has his standard list of mods. Go North 2 streets to Caswell's instead.
STOCK ROCKS
GlockX35
07-29-2007, 14:28
Ben at Glockmeister has often told me I don't need certain things on my Glocks even though he sells them. Yes he has a standard list of mods but it's for people who want them. As to the issue at hand I would never put an extended slide stop on a small CCW pistol. You don't want any chance of it catching on a holster etc. You also don't need the stainless steel guide rod. All I ever do to new Glocks is put night sights on them and the Glockmeister smoothed and lightened trigger and extended sldie stop on my bigger, non-cary Glocks.
G36Packer
07-30-2007, 13:20
I got an extended slide stop lever when I first got my G36 because I was trying to use it as a slide release. I think it was from GM and it was listed as being for the G36. I had to tweak it a bit for a perfect fit.
I had the same problem you describe. The ammo was hitting the tab that the follower normally pushes up. I had to file away quite a bit off the tab to make it match the original part. No problems after that.
Later I put it back to stock so it would fit in all G36 holsters. Use it like the manual says and you don't need the extended one.
Sir_Brassalot
07-30-2007, 20:13
I just got a used G27 and the slide locks back when I rack it even with ammo in the mag... I have yet to shoot it but shouldn't it eject the round and chamber the next, not lock back as long as there is ammo in there???
Sir_Brassalot
07-30-2007, 20:52
Some nice guy responded to another post I made about this and I fixed it. Thanks anyway.
If you're interested... the previous owner put the gun back together in the wrong order... all I had to do was remove both pins, the slide stop lever and the locking block. Then, in this order, put the locking block back in, the top pin (so that the spring on the slide stop lever would be depressed), the slide stop lever, and finally the bottom pin. Problem solved.
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